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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra (Part 2)

What do you ever mean, I had more than one post
by Clara H.
on Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:11 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra (Part 2)

Made more than 1 post*
by Clara H.
on Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:29 am
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra (Part 2)

Clara H. #3- 2 points (the one that subbed in n3)

im actually triggered None of the Clara's made more than 1 and I just gave this one 2 points from my doings
by Clara H.
on Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:29 am
 
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Wtf why did half the game get a fancy makeover
And why did we make a second thread
Either way, gj Cherry (even though it was obvious)
Anyway Infernando called both scum and I love him so much I'm going to write a love letter for him
by Clara H.
on Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:27 am
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Bah Bah black sheep have you any wool
No we are fruit vendors
by Clara H.
on Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:50 am
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Kimmy S. wrote:Jeremiah you were scumreading Halsey most of Day 1, no? Actually, you didn't even be clear in your reads, then scumread me when I started forcing people into a "yes/no" position. Feels scum to me.

Re: Which Kimmy is Which, so how did you distinguish between Kimmys to get the "SR one, TR other"? And assuming you meant you SRed some posts and TRed others, can you be more specific in which posts you disliked?

I think Emmy is Town here, that gamesolving doesn't come from scum imo. They're elaborating sufficiently and they're very clear on their reads.

Cherry's posts look a lot like Emmy's at first glance, but it's just really mostly filler if you strip down the post. They aren't really explaining stuff as it is more quoting stuff and "I feel X from Y". Also I don't think Cherry was even on at EoD1 so can you continue with what you felt about Halsey and why you decided what he said was sufficient? Even if you TR him now, we outsiders would like to hear why you felt it was correct to drop the case.

Shepherd's hot avi distracted me for a while >.> but their posts are pretty much just scum tbh. The other players have pretty much milked the case dry so I'll leave it be right now until something pings me hard.

Still feel Jeremiah > Shepherd, Jeremiah feels like a lost case at this point while Shepherd is redeemable (maybe)


here is an example, you make all these points, but dont elaborate on them or refer to them later on, you just make them for the sake of making them.
Also you are dissing Jeremiah for switching up his read on Hasley it appears, even though you did the exact same thing
by Clara H.
on Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:33 pm
 
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You keep mentioning how im only agreeing/disagreeing with others, but you have failed to give an example. I will agree that my ratio of large posts to small posts and filler posts is fairly low, however all you do in your large posts alot is throw out random things like "this pings me as town" and never elaborate on it
by Clara H.
on Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:28 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Ok so the 2 hydras disagree
Care to explain YOUR read?
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:16 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Infernando, do you have any reasoning of your own?
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:33 am
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

1. Yes, I would. If you truely wanted Jeremiah lynched, you would respond and look at all their posts, instead of saying 1 thing and then claiming you had a strong sr on them.

2. That doesn't make it a different e thing you SR'd Jeremiah for

3. You originally call me out for being passive, before I did. Stop twisting things to help you



Next post
1. If responding to almost all the persons posts, and explaining my sr whenever I posted isnt leading a lynch, I'm interested in what is.
As I believe I already said, can you show examples of me only agreeing or disagreeing with things? I don't believe I have been doing that at all

I called it OMGUS because it had poor reasoning behind it. Also, why should I need to provide more dirt on you, but when you were lynching Jeremiah, it was fine for you to make 1 post on him, and completely leave him with your lynch on him and then claim you had a strong sr on him.
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:32 am
 
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I didn't mention Anima simply because I wasn't really around at the Time

Is that the thing I'm ignoring?
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:51 am
 
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Speaking of, Infernando, care to explain your reason for lynching Kimmy?
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:46 am
 
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You also seem to be cherry picking to help your case, as you call Infernandos lynch a chainsaw, even though in the page before I said I would be happy lynching Infernando or you. Are you suggesting I would call out a scumbuddy when they have no pressure on them?
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:45 am
 
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I ISO'd kimmy and his 'strong scumread' on Jeremiah was 1 post per day explaining a sr, and every post after that was saying 'I still sr jeremiah' without really looking at the posts Jeremiah made in the day or commenting on them at all.

In these posts he also throws out reads on other players in the same style that made him sr Jeremiah. X pings me as town for Y
Z pings.me as scum because of A, but he has been doing B so it makes it fairly neutral' without really expanding on any of them

I also ISO'd myself c:
I really don't see where you are getting the passive thing from, could you please explain how I have been acting passive if you haven't been
by Clara H.
on Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:41 am
 
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@kimmy
My problem is that you accuse me of being passive, but then you claim yourself that you don't have strong scumreads, and mainly had townreads. This comes across as you wanting to mainly make friends, not enemies.
Also, it appears you are bending my words. The difference is, I Had a strong sr on Shepherd, whilst you have been twiddling your thumbs townreading everyone
My lynch on you was mainly a pressure lynch to see how you would react, and you reacted my OMGUSing with poor reason

@infernando
What
The faction that would be most worried about people's opinion on them is scum. So how about, what is YOUR read on everybody else? Gdi

Looking at it right now, I would be fine with either of these players being lynched. I'm not sure how everyone has come to the decision one of the leaders is scum. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't see how this is for certain
by Clara H.
on Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:47 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

oh i suppose you are right to an extent
by Clara H.
on Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:01 pm
 
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umm hasley all your wierd clears based on the fruits are null because there was no nk
kimmy claims I have been very passive, yet I p much led the lynch on shepherd. On the other hand, you have been making fairly large posts, but I havent really seen a strong sr coming out of you. Lynch Kimmy
by Clara H.
on Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:51 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

hiya
thanks for the summary kimmy
I'm gonna read back to see interactions Dr.Proctor has with town leaders
by Clara H.
on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:14 am
 
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Hiya
I've really felt unmotivated to post but hi
Based on what Hasley just said, he is either a very risky mafia or town. I would go for town though. As for the rest of the game, I got a fruit, and I need to read yesterday :/
by Clara H.
on Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:38 am
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Jeremiah W. wrote:Well, I sorta forgot about this and when I did remember, I haven’t had time and I DEEPLY apologise about me only making 2-5 posts relevant to the game, the activity will only be uphill from now, I promise. I’m also sorry that when I do post, it’s not of high quality, I’ve just been losing interest, in general.
Where is my partner at? Welp, I guess he’s leaving me in the dark with all his scummy posts…
Time for MY reads and thoughts on the game so far. Might seperate them into different posts, so it ain’t a big wall post that’d be hard to read.  Staying up all night to finish this in time. P-edit: I can’t work on this anymore, I’m way too tired.. I hopefully will be done before DL
Took me way too long than it should’ve, because I don’t know how to ISO, so it’s really hard. I will bold my questions, so it’s easier to refer to/read and/or the more important parts

So, reads. (in order of PL from “Alive” hider)
I’d first like to say, Emmy you asked me for my reads, but not me, so whatever. Still hope this is of use though.

Clara H as Leaning Scum - Clara’s Beginning of Day 1 was what you would expect it to be, RVS vote/comments, etc. Nothing special about that. I feel that they don’t actually want to post (same for me right now), that isn’t actively checking/reading the thread and their posts seem really forced. She only made 2 posts, and then claimed it was the end of RVS but I think that end of RVS naturally comes and doesn’t need to be announced. Some of her reads were somewhat supported by weak reasoning, but it was Day 1, so I don’t expect much from that, but she asks questions to people to gain reads + now her reads D2 are better, more supported and are overall good. Their most recent post is quite weirdly placed, since they never said what “strong reasons” there are for lynching me, and then contradicts herself by saying “haven’t looked into him as much as I should have”, but she already said there were also strong reasons to lynch me? So, what are these “strong reasons?” If she starts to shift to me, a Clara + Shepherd could become more viable. She comes off as a mediator to me, occasionally asking questions, usually states the obvious/something already stated before, which scum usually do to seem like they’re actually doing something.

Halsey N. as LockTown - If I remember correctly, he started strong by being the first person to bring up the fruit circle strategy (or sometime near the same time when Emmy did it). Constantly giving reads, scumhunting, asking questions, analysing things really well, constantly progressing town in the right direction, prodding people to speak and responding/analysing posts really quickly. Overall, definitely my biggest tr right now, doing a lot. Keep it up, kid.

Shepherd D. as Scum - Their D1 was really weird if you ask me. They unlynched their RVS vote in 20 minutes, where Doc Proc didn’t post anything, besides his RVS vote. What stood out about his RVS vote that made you UL your RVS vote? Then they didn’t say anything else. Let’s move onto Day 2. They said that they received fruit, but not sure if that helped. If you actually read the plan/thread, you would know it would help. Since, you said that you discussed sending fruit to X, but it didn’t work, not sure why, since someone else stated, they didn’t actually bolded it, but it still worked, so I still think they might’ve been discussing to kill or to fruit. They’ve tried shifting attention to other players such as Infernando and Dok Prok. He said he would “look at Kimmy later.” It’s been 12 hours. Where you at? To conclude, he’s really scummy due to him shifting attention a lot, not actually doing much, not fruiting due to prodding partner, being contradictory and not actually reading the thread. Also, I think the paragraph he said “Doesn’t seem like a paragraph is going to save me now” seemed very forced to make that post and it’s not of very good quality, so it supports the point of it being forced/pressured.

Caroline M. - Such a Dazzling Pair of Heads! One of them is dazzling! ..and the other, not really. You can easily tell she reads the thread, if not, reads it again and again. Analyses quite well, responds/asks questions a lot and responds quite quickly. It seems that this Caroline is carrying the other one. She often, over-analyses things, such as the bolded question mark, and she hasn’t given a readlist yet. She does respond/ask questions a lot, but I don’t see signs of scumhunting. Caroline, could you make a Readlist? I am absolutely dazzled by this player! Dazzling dazzlement, that has truly dazzled me, dazzled! Dazzled! Okay, I’ll stop. Neutral, might changed after RL has been posted.

Will continue, later when I wake up.

Comments/responses that are relevant to right now (probably have more, too tired to remember);

1. So people have been saying that we should keep the fruits ‘till MYLO or whatever. Is most past games, as I’ve read, AJ doesn’t allow NL. So, if it’s MYLO, and we lynch someone, what’s the point of the fruits? Scum can just kill and end the game? Plus, if they decided not to kill, LYLO would be a better situation then MYLO. Pre-mylo use is fine, if we want it to be MYLO, but personally, I prefer LYLO since better odds and more intense/easier to play. I feel that turning this into Semi-Nightless, is the best play right now, since it would mean, we would have more days to get more solid reads.
2. A flaw in our plan about circlefruiting, is that Mafia could just kill a random person if it’s pre-mylo, and one of them claim they haven’t received a fruit, and 2 people to lynch. They could easily create a “randomised” list with a scummy person before them and push them.


My main problem with this whole post is it isnt coming across as actively looking for scum

Clara- So you are saying I've got good reads today but you sr me becuase I said there were strong reasons to lynch you? seems like a pretty strange omgus to me.
Its a long paragraph but its really not much when you sit down and read it. As for the strong reasons thing, I've not looked into you much, but from what I've read people are lynching you and have good reason to do it

Hasley- This has an example of not really looking for scum. You state that he was one of the first to come up with the fruit strategy, yet he posted it hours after Emmy, Anima, and Cherry did. Why do you care so little about finding scum that you cant be bothered going and checking that?

OK I guess your read on shepherd is agreeable I dont see a problem

Caroline- Im confused here. You do nothing but compliment her and then follow up with neutral read, because she hasnt made a readslist? o. k.
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:17 pm
 
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I have a few problems with Jeremiah's post but I'd rather not make a large post on mobile so I'll leave it for now
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:04 am
 
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So uhhh, now Shepherd townreads Jeremiah after he did no more posts since Shepherds previous read on him
What
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:02 am
 
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There are also some strong reasons for lynching Jermemiah, though I haven't looked into him as much as I should have
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:06 am
 
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Hai New Cherry
Here are my reasons for lynching Shepherd
A reason for not sending the fruit that only makes sense from a scum player to do
Awful reads based entirely on activity.
Unlynching as soon as people call his reads out, instead of explaining.
OMGUS lynching with poor reasoning (unlynching when called out again)
Claiming to tr Jeremiah until he became the counterwagon, when he began sr'ing him
Overall jumpyness of lynched and reads (Emmy went from strong townread(bad reasons)---->neutral------>scum (the omgus lynch)----->neutral all today)

And from what I've seen he hasn't defended himself at all
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:02 am
 
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Oh shit we have a day left and we haven't spoken about something important


Do Not Use Your Fruit Tonight. IDLE
by Clara H.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:50 am
 
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