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Thanks Lacy! I think we all did great this game. There was no town leader, but we all took part in one way or another in lynching scum.

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Yassss We Won

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Yassss! We won!

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Lacy H. wrote:Yas is lurking again, let's try to pressure him to see if he speaks up

haha.

Soo Jenaro hasn't said anything much today, which is weird considering he might be lynched soon. Nico just dissapeared, maybe due to irl reasons.

I still believe Jenaro is the best lynch choice today, as he is the one I believe is the most scummy. Unless, he posts a detailed read list that gives strong reasons who else to lynch, I don't see myself switching my vote.

Also guys, you don't have to wait for me to do the scumreads. I have quite busy myself. I think it's important that we have an updated readlist from everyone, so I think we should all do that.

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Nooo Mirror Ash (( He was in my opinion one of the more clearer town players in the game. Oh well, there was nothing i could have done. Why did he unlynch jenaro?

Anyways, to prevent that situation again, I will

lynch Jenaro

You can never have too much pressure.

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I'm really sorry, I didn't expect my weekend to be this busy. I don't have time to a read-list (again, sorry) but I'll respond to Mirror Ash's questions. I should be online near deadline, though.

1) Lacy: From experience, mafia does not recall past actions (especially actions that are done by the mafia and scummy). They usually want don't want to remind town tactics in the past. I know this is not a strong point, but I believe mafia usually just go with the flow. For example, Lacy could totally ignore Zane and just said "Yas is lurking and blaming it on not being able to post" and achieve the same effect, yet she mentioned Zane, which I think is townie-like. Hopefully you kinda get what I mean. (Again, it's not the main reason why I think Lacy is town, but just to add to my opinion)

2) Nico: Nico isn't necessarily scummy for not using his lynch, but I pointed out that he ended up not lynching anyone Day 1 but lynched quite early Day 2. I find that a bit weird. Also, Nico seems to be actively replying and participating in conversation but he does not really pressure anyone. Again, it's the experience thing, but mafia usually "appears" to be helpful but not being the leader in trying to getting someone lynched. Of course, this is not always the case, which is why I think Nico is neutral/leaning town.

3) VCA is useful because I think patterns in lynching and unlynching could be use to identify scum. I didn't get around to doing it though, and I don't think it would be any help today.

Hopefully Jenaro comes on before deadline.

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Mirror Ash wrote:Well I am sorry I havent posted all of yesterday and some of today, I am in Spain for a school trip so for the next 6 days my activity wont be as high so hopefully my partner can cover. Unfortunately everytime I am not posting, my partner gets me in a massive hole that I try to dig myself out of because of how unnecessarily aggressive he is.

Anyway I skimmed over everything and I've noticed that the Jenaro lynch escalated extremely quickly without solid evidence happening. I mean surely if 3 lynches are on him then he must have done something super scummy like what Yas did, but i dont see what he has done that deserves 3 lynches on him right off the bat. Like I still feel The Hippie is much scummier and saying that "you almost lynched me instead of scum" is totally irrelevant because, believe it or not, there are 3 scum in the game. Anyway I am gonna reply to whatever made up reason The Hippie came up with in the next post coz I havent read it yet.

To quote the Hippie here, "It's called pressuring" and "You can never have too much pressure". Although I sorta disagree with the latter statement, I think it is useful in a situation where we only need to lynch one mafia because a) they will either have to defend hard - which their partner might come to help or b) do something to convince us that they are not worthy of the lynch. Both ways give town valuable information, especially if we pressure someone that is scummy to many of the town. Also, I know I was scummy, but I wasn't super scummy, I mean, most of the accusations yesterday was about my activity, which I doubt can make anyone "super scummy".

Mirror Ash wrote:@other mirror ash

I am not gonna quote coz there is a massive quote chain but I take issue with a few things. Firstly what you are describing is that Jenaro was stealthing because he timed his lynch right after deadline  (which is also why you are being lynched too). But this doesnt "scream" scum at all because  it isnt a solid scumtell. Stealthing imo is just a bad idea anyway because it really doesnt help scum even tho in theory it does. Also it isnt solid coz there is no clear evidence that he was actually stealthing and you have to back it up with other evidence which atm isnt happening.

However there are a few things that I do agree with. Jenaro how come this has happened twice to you now? Once is alright but twice means that something's up and in brings more evidence that you actually have been stealthing. Also it was quite immediate too. So really, if there was more evidence against you, a lynch on you would actually be reasonable.

One more thing, Yas has sorta done nothing after he posted that readlist except lynch Jenaro with minimal reasoning. He didn't even answer the questions i asked him and he didnt do anything of the stuff he said he would do later. This actually looks like he was bluffing just to save himself. Yas, we know you sre capable of being active and it is now the weekend.....absolutely no excuse.

1) Any reasons you specifically mentioned me when activity of many other in the game have been falling too? 2) Where are your questions? I must have missed it or something. 3) I will definitely do a scum team analysis by the end of today. 4) What exactly did I "bluff"? 5) To clarify for anyone, I didn't lynch Jenaro simply because he lynch The Reporter right at deadline. Refer to my read list why I think he is scummy. He has since then explained himself tho, so I might reconsider my lynches after my scum team analysis.

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lynch jenaro

Personally the next scummiest after the reporter. Would be interesting how he reacts to this.

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I survived Day 2!!!!! Yay! I can assure you town made the right decision.

Anyways, sorry the Hippie and everyone, but after that gigantic read, I felt like I needed a break. That's why I didn't post anything until now. We got one mafia at least - the game should be easier from here. As for my explanation why I didn't lynch the reporter, it's simply because I wasn't here to do so. I wasn't sure what town would do after I posted my read list, so i stayed on the hippie just in case. I had the reporter as scum day 1, she started the whole lynch yas thing day 2, so if anyone thinks i'm scum purely because I didn't lynch the reporter, i think it is a weak reasoning.

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Mirror Ash wrote:

Gemma W. wrote:That was horribly worded.
My point is that if you want discussion dont just say "guys lets discuss". Instead, bring a point to discussion or just say your thoughts, which usually leads to people discussing them.

We started this game with a huge advantage in the form 13 pages of conversations, reactions, and information. While most of it was trolling an shitposting by people like me, it still gives us enough to not start this completely blind.

And also if one of you shits will say something across the lines of "Lets scumhunt" I will go mental(-er)

L E T S S C U M H U N T B O I S!!!!!

Honestly tho the way this is gonna work out, I'd say the most scummy people are those who say something scummy and then try to post newspapers to make them look helpful coz their partner may be paranoid about his partner giving him away. But really idk, i am about as confused as most people are.

Please don't use this quote to say my read list invalid. kthxbai

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Time for my long awaited read-list! Will start with those with fewer posts since they take less time to analyze. Also, since I am almost dead I might as well make myself useful so expect another read-list after this post that will analyze potential scumteams. (Although that might also take some time, but at least it will give some new perspective since it wouldn't make sense if individually someone is scummy but he/she wouldn't fit in any scumteam). I really hope you guys read this because I think it will be useful to town and I did kinda summarize actions so it might be easier if you are trying to catch up!

Before I start my read list, I want to talk about my activity. The test wasn't that big, and I didn't need to take a week break from this game to study for it. I just didn't have the time to sit down and type this wall post because you will see why. Hint: It's basically an essay.

Lacy H. as town - Lacy, although not the most active player in the game, has not had any posts that scream scum. She started the game suspecting Gemma, but was rather confused whether she should be lynched. Then Lacy suspected The Reporter and pressured her - something that carried on to Day 2. I think Lacy is doing a good job at pressuring the Reporter and maintaining it to Day 2. As a mafia, I doubt there is any reason to keep pressuring the reporter unless this is some kind of extreme bussing - which I find unlikely. The fact that she mentioned Zane's strat also solidifies my thoughts of her as town, since I don't think there is any reason for a mafia to do that.

Kayleigh as leaning town - When I read Keyleigh posts', they don't seem scum but for some reason does not give me the town vibes that I get from Lacy. She has good and thoughtful posts that seem town such as the mafia using the same type of typing patterns, but then there are some random things I found that makes me a tiny bit skeptic for example: saying we should be active! but then disappeared for a while and her reasonings on the Gemma lynch wasn't the strongest either. I still believe she is more likely to be town though since she does bring up good points and ask good questions.

Jenaro as leaning scum - For someone that active in the pre-game, I didn't expect Jenaro, out of all people, to play the catch up game. Before his first read list, he did have some good discussions but nothing too major such as heavily pressuring/suspecting someone. He comes back a few days later to post a read list, but a weird one, since most of the people on there is neutral and only Nico is town. I found his Gemma lynch to be quite abrupt, since he didn't pressure her much the last time he was on. Moreover, it's not like she was tied with Ash. I know his reasoning for this is to prevent last second stunts but I think it would be an even better idea if he didn't do that and maybe lured the mafia to save Gemma. To summarize, his lynch just seems to abrupt for my liking (+also it's after deadline). As a question for you, I would like to ask what did you mean when you said "If hippie is scum, ash would be another easy person to get town to lynch off". As for his second read lists, I believe there is something that's just off. For example, what did the Reporter do throughout Day 2 that made you change your view on her from top as scum to neutralish/scummish? I didn't notice any major change, personally. I disagree with your views on the Hippie, but that does not make you scum. I, however, want you to explain how the Hippie started the whole Day 1 Gemma vs Ash thing? It could be that I was skimming through and missed it, but even now when I reread it I don't see anything too major. In summary, I believe Jenaro has both points of being town and mafia. It seems like, to me at least, some of his points could be seen as scum-motivated. I get this weird feeling when reading his read lists. It would be nice if you could keep up your pre-game activity so that I can see where you are heading, but I understand sometimes IRL thing gets in the way.

The Hippie as Neutral - Weird, right? The Hippie is neutral? Well, this is why I prefer to look back at the game before starting my read list because if I didn't do this, I would probably saying he is definitely scum. However, after reading through all his contents so far, it doesn't stand too far out as scum. I would go as far as saying his posts seem townier than Jenaro. Let's put it this way: when you really think about it, what does the Hippie has to gain by switching his lynch on to me? If he was scum, wouldn't it benefit him more to stay on Ash since I would flip town and then he could appear more townie? I don't really get how I needed more pressure since it's plurality, but I guess it at least is an ok argument. From the way he plays so far, I doubt this read list will convince him that I am town. But I am definitely curious how he will react when it says I am town and he had me defo scum. Whether he goes back to lynching Mirror Ash/Brutella or doing something else is definitely something town should be keeping an eye on. I will maintain my lynch on him for now, but it is very likely to change. (My inner thought is telling me The Hippie + Jenaro is a decent scumteam but I don't usually trust my inner thought)

Brutella as leaning town - Brutella started off the game with some good activity and discussions about Gemma and Ash. She seems genuine when both pressuring and discussing. I view the argument between themselves townie, since I didn't get any scum vibes from it. She does filler a lot, but I don't think that makes her scummy really. I would like to see more of her thoughts on Day 2 though. In conclusion, nothing really stands out much for me from Brutella, but I don't see any clear scum motive. She is one of the people that I am sure my opinion will change as the game progresses. (assuming you know who live)

Nico as neutral/leaning town - I want to explain why I suspected Nico Day 1. I know he's not the most active player in the game, but he gave me this sort of town leader or mediator vibe. From my perspective, he seems too neutral. For example, he definitely questions and participates in conversations but he does not really pressure anyone on particular. The fact that he didn't lynch anyone Day 1 also adds to this point. It just seems to me that he seems to be helping but not really. I was actually surprised he lynched me early on in the day, but at least he posted good reasons that does not revolve around my activity. As Day 2 progresses however, he seems townier to me post by post. He maintains his active questioning from Day 1, but I feel like his reasons are better. I don't know how to explain this well since scumhunting is subjective, but at least for me his post seems to be more town motivated. I would like to see a read list from you.

The Reporter as leaning scum - The reporter comes off as being lynch happy to me. Day 1, she lynched Brutella and then unlynched immediately. Then, she proceeded to say we should lynch those that are unhelpful, which although I agree, it doesn't mean we should lynch all inactives. She lynched Mirror Ash and again unlynched him in the next post. (twice, in fact - so basically she lynched him twice and uled twice) I know she forgot to read a page but I think it just shows her hastiness to lynch. I don't think one sentence replies make someone scum, but it does give the appearance that she posts more than she does. (not really related, but when you said 50 billion 1 sentence posts from me, you also react to thing with one sentence replies too) In conclusion, The Reporter seems to be lynch-happy and often uses the excuse of activity (like when she asked Lacy what have you contributed). There is one thing that keeps me from saying she is confirmed scum tho, which is partners. More on that in the next post.

Mirror Ash as town - Mirror Ash had good posts and discussions throughout Day 1 and 2. I find the fact that he gets angry when accused townie, it seems like something I would do too. His lynches are a bit confusing to me, as he went back and forth a bit - but that doesn't mean much in Hydra. His posts give me a town vibe. Overall, I think he is town.

Finally I'm done!

Some things to be noted:

1) If you find any flaws in this post, please comment. I might have miss some scum/town motives when looking through.

2) We should also maybe try to find relationships between scum partners since so far we have been trying to scumhunt person by person.

3) Those who I list as neutral can easily flip to town or scum depending on their future actions.

4) Don't hastily lynch as it is not beneficial to town. Instead bring up a candidate, and see what town thinks.

5) Good luck! If I am lynched, at least you have good info. It also should motivate to change your tactics. If i survive then good, I promise this activity tomorrow.

I might post scum team analysis + vote count analysis next, but I am definitely taking a break.

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Lacy H. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:

Lacy H. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:Ugh idk what is happening, I tried posting twice and it gave me error both times. Thanks god it wasn't my read list.

Anyways, I don't want to type it all again so I'll summarize

1) If you keep attacking me solely on activity, not only is it a bad reason to lynch someone, I also don't know how to reply to that. It had already been thoroughly discussed. Comment on my posts if you want something to report on.

2) Why are you lynching me again? I am assuming this is another you.

3) Why do you think The Hippie should not be lynched today? It seems like you are either trying to secure my lynch or protecting him.

This is mainly directed to the Reporter but point 1) is for everyone.

This kinda reminds me of Zane's (strat?) from game 15. You know, lurking for a while and blaming it on not being able to post. But the difference is that Zane posted his reads lists ASAP. So we at least knew where his head was at all times.

OMGGGGGGGG every post about me is about my activity. /me faints. Also I didn't blame my poor activity on the error, I was just talking about that post.Have it not occured to you that the post just didn't send? I tried posting it twice, and it said "Timed out try again" or sth like that both times. You are thinking too deep here. Also, it's not like you are the most active player.

Yas W. wrote:Also expect the reads list by tomorrow, since I don't think I will have time to finish it today.

One thing I find interesting is the fact that Yas is delaying his reads list. He doesnt have the best reasoning as to why either. It doesnt take a whole day to make a reads list, if that. He could be running it by his maf partners, assuming he's maf. He should have a rough feel of how everyone is just by playing for how scummy he feels everyone is. It's not like he just subbed in. Granted, he could be trying to separate the two reads (ie: Lacy 1: Town Lacy 2: Null or TR 1: Scum TR 2:Town), which could be tough considering that it can be hard to pinpoint who is who; however, there is no point in doing that.

I'm getting a scum vibe on him but I need to scroll through all his other posts and stuff.

Again, thinking way too hard here. 1) I have a test to study for. 2) Do you not do a read list by looking back? It takes a while to go through each person's posts, especially since we have ~50 pages. Read lists that just comes from feelings without much looking back/checking on facts, tend to be like "I think this guy is town since he does this, but then it could be that, so idk neutral for now" which I don't really like cause it's not useful.

What I'm saying is that in your case you should have had at least one reads list already to use as a base, and focus on stuff that were posted after that.  You could also at least have given us a rough set of reads and said you'd go more in depth on it later ie: Yas is def. scum imo, Gemmi seems very town to me, Lacy has a very high town read. so on so forth. At least so we see where your head is at.

I prefer to make a read list without any opinions on anyone. I don't know if it's true for everyone, but many time you think people are scum just because you are in the heat of the game. When you actually step back and look, you might think like "hey, that's not scum at all! what was I thinking?" Personally, I believe if you are making a read list you should have a clear mind. Then, you wouldn't be hunting for evidence, but view the game from a bigger perspective - to see the interactions and motives that might not be clear in the beginning.

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Lacy H. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:Ugh idk what is happening, I tried posting twice and it gave me error both times. Thanks god it wasn't my read list.

Anyways, I don't want to type it all again so I'll summarize

1) If you keep attacking me solely on activity, not only is it a bad reason to lynch someone, I also don't know how to reply to that. It had already been thoroughly discussed. Comment on my posts if you want something to report on.

2) Why are you lynching me again? I am assuming this is another you.

3) Why do you think The Hippie should not be lynched today? It seems like you are either trying to secure my lynch or protecting him.

This is mainly directed to the Reporter but point 1) is for everyone.

This kinda reminds me of Zane's (strat?) from game 15. You know, lurking for a while and blaming it on not being able to post. But the difference is that Zane posted his reads lists ASAP. So we at least knew where his head was at all times.

OMGGGGGGGG every post about me is about my activity. /me faints. Also I didn't blame my poor activity on the error, I was just talking about that post.Have it not occured to you that the post just didn't send? I tried posting it twice, and it said "Timed out try again" or sth like that both times. You are thinking too deep here. Also, it's not like you are the most active player.

Yas W. wrote:Also expect the reads list by tomorrow, since I don't think I will have time to finish it today.

One thing I find interesting is the fact that Yas is delaying his reads list. He doesnt have the best reasoning as to why either. It doesnt take a whole day to make a reads list, if that. He could be running it by his maf partners, assuming he's maf. He should have a rough feel of how everyone is just by playing for how scummy he feels everyone is. It's not like he just subbed in. Granted, he could be trying to separate the two reads (ie: Lacy 1: Town Lacy 2: Null or TR 1: Scum TR 2:Town), which could be tough considering that it can be hard to pinpoint who is who; however, there is no point in doing that.

I'm getting a scum vibe on him but I need to scroll through all his other posts and stuff.

Again, thinking way too hard here. 1) I have a test to study for. 2) Do you not do a read list by looking back? It takes a while to go through each person's posts, especially since we have ~50 pages. Read lists that just comes from feelings without much looking back/checking on facts, tend to be like "I think this guy is town since he does this, but then it could be that, so idk neutral for now" which I don't really like cause it's not useful.

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Also expect the reads list by tomorrow, since I don't think I will have time to finish it today.

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Ugh idk what is happening, I tried posting twice and it gave me error both times. Thanks god it wasn't my read list.

Anyways, I don't want to type it all again so I'll summarize

1) If you keep attacking me solely on activity, not only is it a bad reason to lynch someone, I also don't know how to reply to that. It had already been thoroughly discussed. Comment on my posts if you want something to report on.

2) Why are you lynching me again? I am assuming this is another you.

3) Why do you think The Hippie should not be lynched today? It seems like you are either trying to secure my lynch or protecting him.

This is mainly directed to the Reporter but point 1) is for everyone.

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test

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The Hippie wrote:

Kayleigh B. wrote:Damn that was a lot of activity during the time i last checked in.  Anyways i just finished catching up and what i see is that Yas is town and The hippie bandwagon was kinda strange. I havent seen The Hippie post as much except to lynch or some filler, also the fact that the hippie ignored The Reporter's questions and just now randomly went offline instead of posting something feels even more scummy. So im going to do what i originally wanted to do and Lynch The Hippie

you literally just showed up out of no where to lynch me when it seems the lynch is swinging my way. Also i have made long posts, maybe if you were active in the game, you would have noticed that.

I mean, you kinda also showed up out of no where to lynch me when it seems the lynch is swinging my way too.

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The Hippie wrote:Yas, the fact that you're way more active now shows that you lied earlier saying that you're too busy to post a lot and only have time to do it "twice a day". This is why people are getting all up in your face about it. Lynch all liars TBH.

I said I only post twice a day, but I never said I only have time to post twice a day. Check your facts.

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The Hippie wrote:I don't have a great deal of reads because not everyone is posting as much as everyone else. Of the most active players, Ash is scum and Brutella is most likely town. Kayleigh, Jenaro and Nico haven't posted enough for me to have a real read on them yet. Reporter is leaning town for now, Lacy is solid town and Yas is defo scum.

Just because one person is town, that doesn't mean I can't change my vote lol. The logic that I'm scum because I decided to switch my vote is very poor. There are two scummy players right now, and one person needs pressure more. It's pretty simple.

May i ask why Lacy is solid town while some others that posted more than her you can't get a read on them? It's not really that simple. People accused me of lacking original content, yet you literally copied The Reporter's reasoning of lynching me. It just seems abrupt that you decide to follow the bandwagon.

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Jenaro K. wrote:Here are my reads. Sorry for the lateness, I've been very busy and it's really not allowing me to play this as actively as I wished. I am kinda glad I waited, though. The things I thought before have changed immensely with the last few pages.

Mirror Ash- And this is where I explain my Gemma lynch (or attempt) too. Out of the two of them last day, I saw Ash as more town than Gemma (sorry QT). I wanted to make sure people who were fighting their partners (/me looks at Brutella) didn't lynch Ash instead. Overall, Ash seems really scummy- or he did. I guess it was just him initially being attacked and constantly prodded. He still seems really iffy, but not scummy. I see him as being bad at explaining things and having trouble agreeing with his partner, sure, but at the moment, he is a town read for me.

Nico- You called me out about my initial "filler" commenting about the differences between partners and about my thoughts on it being a way to catch scumslips. Right after, I was inactive for days (and it seems serious self was too). I must look pretty bad to you. I apologize. I did feel that my posts were relevant, though. It seemed to me like a good idea, and I've seen partners disagreeing a lot. One person did stand out to me before, and I will address that on my read of her. Overall, my read about Nico is a town read.

The Reporter- This is the one I was talking about with Nico. She started the day lynching someone and it didn't make sense to me. It was so scummy, and then the UL. I can only imagine it as one partner saving the other from scummy behavior. She started out as a top scum read for me. Now, though, after reading everything else, she has gone down a bit for me. Still slight scum, but not enough to merit a lynch at the moment. I would like to see how the day progresses, first. If anything, I feel she may have the same issues as Ash does in that she's not good at explaining her shit and she and her partner are not working well together.

Yas- Yesterday (irl yesterday), I saw him as slightly scummy. This was based on the fact that he was lurking and had so little posts, most of which seemed irrelevant to me (and to a few others, it seems). It was also due to the fact that he not only didn't post a lot with his original 2 players, but after getting a sub, he was still inactive as fuck. After everything that happened between that time and all the lynches on him, I further view him as scum. He only became active after a lot of people lynched him and called him out. As of now, I think he would be my top scum read. I will however hold my lynch until he posts his read list. I want to see what he says, but he's still up there.

The Hippie- People seem to be lynching him now for BW and "random" posts. Watching Hippie spark the thing between Gemma and Ash (though he did call Brutella and Ash his scum picks, he still kicked everything off, I feel) made me see him as town. He saw Ash as scum the last day and stuck on him then and continued to do so today until Yas. While I disagree about Ash being scum, I still can see Hippie in a town light. His flop to Yas makes sense, too. People are starting to see Ash as towny (in my perspective) and so he jumped to the scummier guy that people were lynching. While it is a BW-like move, it makes sense to me. Yas has shown himself to be scummy and Hippies flop does not look like a scum move. I have a town read on Hippie.

I would like to make this clear for you and the Reporter. I know you two think it is scummy that my activity sparked up after I was pressured. While this is weird, you have to understand that I assume everyone is in this game actually wants to be alive, including me. This includes both town and mafia. All of accusations on me being mafia are all either involved with activity - one way or another. (well i think except Nico's) Activity is such a bad reason to lynch someone on and any person, town or mafia, can have increase in activity after being pressured. Comment on my posts instead of my activity, please. Activity cannot be the main reason you lynch someone over.

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Yas W. wrote:

Nico P. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:In my defense, I had both the reporter and Nico as my scumlist Day 1. Anyways, my question that I asked Nico was not to attack him but just for clarification. The point now is, why did you not question Nico when he basically did the same thing as me? Your latest post also seems overly defensive, Nico was not even focus on you for half the post.

What I did was different from what you did.  When I chose between the three people getting lynched, I put in effort to determine who I thought was scummy and share it with everyone else.  When you chose, not only was it between three people who were lynching you, you provided barely any new info, saying "out of the three, the hippie is the scummiest" without going into any detail on myself or the reporter.

I think I should explain this:

First of all, I must say sorry if I came off as rude to anyone. I didn't mean to. However, I also didn't expect to have 3 people lynching me.

The reason why I lynched the Hippie, is because he is the most "out of the blue" lynch out of the 3. It seems more as a bandwagon more than anything. This is because

a) The Reporter started the lynch, which evolved to the majority of the discussion Day 2. She came off to me as being lynch-happy, actively switching between 3 people today, but at least it was some time since she unlynched, and also she wasn't bandwagoning anyone.

b) Nico gave the most details on his choice. He is also the only one that did not choose the reason of activity as a reason for my lynch. I also did not explain myself well why I think Gemma should be lynch, and although that is now resolved (or at least, clearer), I can definitely see where he is coming from.

3) The Hippie seems the most random. His previous post (before the lynch) was still attacking Mirror Ash, calling him a liar etc. He seems pretty sure that Mirror Ash is scum (and still is, I think). However, he switched the lynch on me for reasons that are given previously by the reporter. Moreover, he even stated that Ash is still scum, which means that his lynch switch on to me wouldn't have accomplish anything apart from applying more pressuring/securing a lynch on me. That just seems to me weird to me.

Thus for these reasons, The Hippie is the scummiest. Hopefully now that I have collected my thoughts a bit, it is easier to understand. I would also like to say that, if you guys do decide to lynch me, please do not hammer me right away. I will do a read list player by player. Feel free to ask me any questions, I would like to correct my past mistakes and do something to regain your trust.

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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Mirror Ash wrote: Unlynch whoever I'm on (Hippie I think) Lynch Yas W.

I thought I did this earlier, but rip

Did you not read what I just said ;-;

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Nico P. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:In my defense, I had both the reporter and Nico as my scumlist Day 1. Anyways, my question that I asked Nico was not to attack him but just for clarification. The point now is, why did you not question Nico when he basically did the same thing as me? Your latest post also seems overly defensive, Nico was not even focus on you for half the post.

What I did was different from what you did.  When I chose between the three people getting lynched, I put in effort to determine who I thought was scummy and share it with everyone else.  When you chose, not only was it between three people who were lynching you, you provided barely any new info, saying "out of the three, the hippie is the scummiest" without going into any detail on myself or the reporter.

I think I should explain this:

First of all, I must say sorry if I came off as rude to anyone. I didn't mean to. However, I also didn't expect to have 3 people lynching me.

The reason why I lynched the Hippie, is because he is the most "out of the blue" lynch out of the 3. It seems more as a bandwagon more than anything. This is because

a) The Reporter started the lynch, which evolved to the majority of the discussion Day 2. She came off to me as being lynch-happy, actively switching between 3 people today, but at least it was some time since she unlynched, and also she wasn't bandwagoning anyone.

b) Nico gave the most details on his choice. He is also the only one that did not choose the reason of activity as a reason for my lynch. I also did not explain myself well why I think Gemma should be lynch, and although that is now resolved (or at least, clearer), I can definitely see where he is coming from.

3) The Hippie seems the most random. His previous post (before the lynch) was still attacking Mirror Ash, calling him a liar etc. He seems pretty sure that Mirror Ash is scum (and still is, I think). However, he switched the lynch on me for reasons that are given previously by the reporter. Moreover, he even stated that Ash is still scum, which means that his lynch switch on to me wouldn't have accomplish anything apart from applying more pressuring/securing a lynch on me. That just seems to me weird to me.

Thus for these reasons, The Hippie is the scummiest. Hopefully now that I have collected my thoughts a bit, it is easier to understand. I would also like to say that, if you guys do decide to lynch me, please do not hammer me right away. I will do a read list player by player. Feel free to ask me any questions, I would like to correct my past mistakes and do something to regain your trust.

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Mirror Ash wrote:

Yas W. wrote:

Mirror Ash wrote:

Nico P. wrote:

Mirror Ash wrote:I am pretty sure he was talking to Yas on how he lynched from the 3 people who lynched him and how he is basically a hypocrite.

I'd appreciate if you took the time to actually check your facts before posting, you would see that it was not me who called Yas out for lynching between the 3 people lynching him.

All that does for him is guarantee that he will be called out for OMGUS and that's his decision.  I personally have not seen anything posted by Yas or anyone else for that matter that has changed my opinion on my lynch so far.  Yas, you're going about defending yourself the completely wrong way.  You need to defend yourself against the reasons people are lynching you, not the nitpicks of their posts that you find to be slightly scummy.

hey hey hey why are you so rude all of a sudden. I most definitely did check my facts and you lynched from 3 people, then Yas asked you why you limited yourself to 3 people. After all the shit happened Yas lynched from the 3 people who lynched him. Therefore Yas is a hypocrite is what the other Mirror Ash was implying which is actually kinda true. honestly dude....

In my defense, I had both the reporter and Nico as my scumlist Day 1. Anyways, my question that I asked Nico was not to attack him but just for clarification. The point now is, why did you not question Nico when he basically did the same thing as me? Your latest post also seems overly defensive, Nico was not even focus on you for half the post.

I wasnt trying to defend myself, I just dont like people being rude/patronizing to me. To be honest, I wouldnt have questioned either of you but I guess maybe my partner thought that Nico actually gave reasons for the 3 he found most scummy while you on the other hand limited yourself to the 3 people who lynched you instead without giving much reason. I know you said that you suspected Nico, Gemma and The Reporter, but The Hippie afaik wasnt part of it so i think that was his process of thought.

The hydra aspect of the game is indeed confusing. I will admit that I was hypocritical, but in a neutral sense since I wasn't attacking Nico when I questioned him, and I think it's common to see people pressuring those that lynch them, say, you with Gemma Day 1.

Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Nico P. wrote:

Yas W. wrote:Gemma was scummy to me, as I said Day 1, because her reasonings of using pregame content to judge Mirror Ash. Moreover, it was quite abrupt considering she had been attacking Mirror Ash. Then, she proceeds to make a read list, which claims that I was online everyday with no posts. That is not true. Moreover, she claims that all my posts are useless, when actually, she used the point I made about how if everyone is against her she isn't scum later on. Lastly, I was skeptical why she had Nico as scummiest, but did not make any attempt to pressure him. These were my reasonings to justify Gemma's lynch. The part I said we get info from Gemma anyways is merely to say that we benefit, from a Gemma lynch either way, solidifying my choice for Day 1.

Also Nico, sorry if your scumhunting is not the same to me. How I scumhunt is looking for interaction and motive. Since Gemma interacted with many people, we can who actively pushed for her lynch, or who did not. Also, the motives can be analyzed easier now that we know Gemma is town. It's easier to see if it's townvtown, scumvscum and scumvtown now imo. I don't expect you to agree with me that Gemma lynch provides good info, but to say that my lynch on Gemma was not justified is wrong imo.

Thank you.  Yes, there was definitely more information received for lynching Gemma than say, you day 1 (keep in mind your post count was around 10 as opposed to Gemma having more than 50).  I'm saying that what we learned about these interactions are the same things we would have learned had we lynched mirror ash, or any active player for that matter.

I definitely see where you are coming from. However as I said, that was not my main reason for lynching Gemma but rather to solidify my choice. The real reasons why I didn't lynch other active players is because Gemma is the scummiest to me, which is explained in the first paragraph of my post.