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Game 14: Protect Wisely!

aj, I like the idea of the skype call just make sure to post the reveals here too Razz
by Azumi A.
on Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:56 am
 
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I know, I could have easily done that, and it would have been safer for me, but the point is, you just told me this strategy, you would have thought of it, you would have seen through it. Sure the risks were high but you really needed to die, you're the only one who REALLY saw through the whole thing
by Azumi A.
on Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:42 pm
 
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wilhiema, why do you think I killed you? you were one of the 2 people who isn't in the mafia who seemed to be able to make connections, people who lead the town or at least try to are often the ones that know what they're doing, that's why you had to die. The other option would have been himashi if it would have been clearer he would lead town so much
by Azumi A.
on Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:11 am
 
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I can FINALLY say something now, himashi you are not an idiot and you did find me as scum, but the reasons were complete bullshit xD I didn't say who to kill night 1, I just told them "kill anyone" and they decided, same for a lot of other things, I did not tell sunreeser to save me, I told him that it was his choice to save me if he wanted to, I did not lynch toby to make him seem towny I did it because I wanted to see if I could save myself or make him scummy if that wouldn't work and so on.

Also, himashi if this really is your first game then you did great apart from the thing where theory isn't perfect, I am someone on who theory just doesn't work. It just doesn't, I would have acted almost completely the same as town, maybe a bit more on gut feeling meaning I'd be even more scummy but yeah...

And of course, you made a bit of a mistake in your thought process between dayton and sunreeser himashi. You told them to claim what protect they had left, you thought that the mafia would pick the protect for someone else but for the mafia it would in fact be better to say self protect, as that would mean you wont look as if you're trying to trick town into lynching in mylo, it'll be safe, and sunreeser was in a position where he was suspected, when suspected as mafia you do anything to seem like town, and not to fool town.
by Azumi A.
on Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:02 am
 
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'Don't argue with an idiot or they will drag you down to their level and beat you by experience'

Seriously though himashi, you made my day by getting me killed and I'm just sitting here laughing at myself and my 'mistakes' after game I'll explain more but yeah... good job xD
by Azumi A.
on Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:10 am
 
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Oh right and as this is the last day before deadline I'm going to

lynch satoru

I know it might look weird but since my last messages I've thought about what the other options are and I suddenly realized this all might not have been the plan in the first place. Satoru has gone quiet, possibly to not attract too much attention during these critical moments For me, sunreeser and him. What might have actually happened though is that they wanted to get me lynched and have people think about misawo during the night when she can't defend herself so people will be "sure" she is mafia And won't listen to reason later. But then sunreeser came in and decided misawo was a better lynch option than me or toby and screwed up the plan. Of course this was also good and they immediately adapted. Which is more likely than the masterplan I was thinking about earlier. Having me lynched: logical. Having people think about a next option you gave: logical. Someone screwing up a plan: possible. I was about to lynch sunreeser when I thought of this so it's not all done and I still need to do some other things so let's hope I don't forget the rest.

by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:15 am
 
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And something I forgot, I don't really get why kimyo would lynch satoru... I know it's a hard decision between satoru and sunreeser but it's slightly leaning towards sunreeser for me, he was after all later, and both of the theories that we've got right now include mafia saving me. This, for me At least, leaves it to 2 options, sunreeser + himashi + someone else and kimyo + sunreeser + himashi. Obviously this doesn't mean I'm sure of sunreeser and himashi as there are more people but those are my biggest suspicions.

My opinion on toby has changed since yesterday as he's started saying things not everyone says or thinks and just says meaningful things.
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:00 am
 
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Aww that's nice of You toby, I'm apparently contributing to town. But you have to keep in mind that with me being on the verge of lynch like, always, it's easy enough to get rid of me, because it's still mylo though they can't just simply lynch me and be over with it.

Just a sidenote: himashi has gone quiet O_O apparently he listened to me for once... or he's got irl stuff.
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:54 am
 
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Why is everyone ignoring the option I said? If they are mafia it could also be a setup to get me lynched for sure while getting rid of some other villies too
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:01 am
 
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I agree with toby, though we have to keep in mind that the possible strategy I said would also work if we would lynch one of them and they are mafia, so If we do it how toby says please do keep that in mind, just because one of them is mafia (which is a posdibility) doesn't mean I am.

About the thing between me and koji, if you compare us then no, I don't react like he does. If you compare me with any "towny" reaction then no, I do not react "towny". Does this mean I'm scum? No. Just look at agatha from game 12, I'm not the only one. I am not your regular towny. Neither am I your regular mafia. IsIf I'd have immediately said something about how I don't remember why I didn't protect willhiema or said that after a bit of thinking I thought it was actually really stupid I would not have been under a lot of suspicion anymore and I would have blended in, but instead I tried explaining and got put under more pressure, I doubt any of you understand me, I will have seemingly less time to actually do something making me hasty and hard to understand. If you come to psanon to not get killed night 1 And not get lynched day 2 then yes, you are desperate to live no matter what role you are. If you play through the whole thing it takes weeks for the next, if you die early it takes possibly months. Don't expect me to just sit here and watch you guys lynch me for what? A fool saying I'm a noob?

Enough ranting for now. I want all of your to say what your opinion about me is. No exceptions.
by Azumi A.
on Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:33 am
 
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Oh and also, will respond to the other things later and this: "I'm sorry this letter is so long, I didn't have time to write a short one." think about it, it's from a philosopher and it's not a joke.
by Azumi A.
on Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:04 am
 
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First I want to say something, himashi, your feelings are getting too big of a grip on you. Until you get a hold of them you can't listen to reason. You are obviously angry and I won't just sit here having you calling me a noob. Until you get a hold of your emotions this will be my last response to You. This is not to work against town, this is so you can calm down and think better by not having someone to respond to anymore. When you have calmed down you will think clearer and realize that what I say has logic in it, and you will also realize you are shitting on my theories because they go against yours.

Himashi G. wrote:
Azumi noob wrote:Well, as you saw in the promise I made, which will be the only one I'm making this game, I did not push anyone towards lynching except for the arguments I gave, that they thought it was better to have me alive than having misawo alive is not something I was pushing for, remember what I said?

More on this later, I've a bigger bone to pick at the moment.

Azumi noob wrote:sunreeser, himashi and toby. But that idea of me has shifted more towards sunreeser, himashi and satoru. They seem to be perfect together, I have thought about what happened and how himashi picked up on that and it all fits in perfectly imo.

*bounce*
And Toby picked up on that thing too
Is he too good for you

i know i did say i saw toby as scum yesterday but i have to admit i was looking for scum at that moment, and with what happened I switched my view. I believe you are quite possibly a scumteam with saturo/sunreeser

Azumi noob wrote:Himashi just keeps pushing people, hoping something would come out of it so he can push towards a towny, then when it's almost too late for the towny to get saved the normal way his mafia partners lynch someone else to direct even MORE attention to a possible scumteam with the towny, if someone gets saved last moment by 2 people that must be a scumteam right?

1/10 this time, because not very funny
Ever heard of something called "The Law of Parsimony"? Simply put, it states that the more entities or logical links need to be made in order to explain a situation, the exponentially less likely it is to be true, and that if something seems far-fetched, it's because it is. If you see a broken window and a baseball on your floor, you're going to assume that the kids from across the street got too rowdy playing ball and hit it through the window; not that they got too rowdy, hit the ball onto the roof, a bird dislodged it, it rolled off, bounced off the neighbor's house and into the window.
My theory assumes:
-You are mafia, and thus wanted to prevent yourself from being lynched
-Between Satoshi and Sunreeser, one of them is mafia
-You contacted your scum buddy and told them to vote someone other than the person you'd lynched so when they flipped town you could distance yourself
NOTE: This reflects poorly on Sunreeser more than Satoshi because it is less likely they are both mafia than that one of them is, and Sunreeser placed the second vote.
That's three links, which can be seen as mildly far-fetched depending on who you ask.
Your theory assumes:
-I am mafia
-Sunreeser is mafia
-Satoru is mafia
-I did not actually want you to be lynched because I could get you to be lynched on a critical day (MyLo/LyLo), and you were not killed so that could occur
-I told them to vote on someone I had a town read on in order to make me look good for 'prediction'
That's five links, the first three of which are very unlikely (how could you think you could pick out the entire scumteam from just D2, before any of them died), the last two are less clear-cut-and-dry than my hypothesis.

you surely think you are smart, making it very well possible for the last 2 to happen as you would be the strategist of the mafia. And look what happened! Sunreeser and satoru picked your side now! Though you are right about one bit, it's possible that It's only satoru or only sunreeser.

Azumi noob wrote:That's the normal thought, and himashi has been going all on about noob scumplays, no surprise for me that there's another "noob scumplay" from my part,

Actually that wasn't a noob scumplay, you'd have done good there, were the nights shorter to give people like me and Toby less time to think.

actually the thing with mafia jumping in to save a friend is the most nooby thing you can do.

Azumi noob wrote:and obviously himashi points that out again, linking me to his partners is easy enough after what happened, and of course he will go for me first so you can then see I'm a towny and then he's like "Well shit, it was a towny... sorry about that, I really did think he/she was mafia... Seeing as this person was a towny the 2 who saved him/her obviously aren't mafia, that's clear now."

Make your own Parsimony model for this one, guys, it ain't hard

Azumi noob wrote:That is my prediction, don't get blinded by himashi,

This quote would have been funnier and more accurate and just all-around-better if you'd stopped at the word 'blinded'. i meant when you look at who is scummier in this case purely, look at what happened and what is more likely to you. Then look at the whole thing again. Don't forget your earlier ideas, just think of the lynches as a different thing for a moment and then get back to the whole thing.


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Azumi noob wrote:think about what I said and form your own opinion about what happened. Don't let the thing with who is scummier blind you in this case, only think about what happened and think about who is scummier right now, what scenario is likelier or however you spell that. Think for yourselves.

LOL you sound like Gizelle V., "Dun let the scummy actions make you think the person doing them is scummy!!" Except in this case, you have the intelligence not to really believe that.


Then there is something about my posts being forced, first of all how are they forced? Second is how are they supposed to be free when you're pretty much forced to respond to some sort of ape who is chasing you? This is legit the feeling himashi is giving me. A fool who is chasing you and somehow gets help. And that's also why I won't respond to himashi anymore, as I'm letting my feelings get a bit much of a hold of me.
by Azumi A.
on Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:57 am
 
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Well, as you saw in the promise I made, which will be the only one I'm making this game, I did not push anyone towards lynching except for the arguments I gave, that they thought it was better to have me alive than having misawo alive is not something I was pushing for, remember what I said? sunreeser, himashi and toby. But that idea of me has shifted more towards sunreeser, himashi and satoru. They seem to be perfect together, I have thought about what happened and how himashi picked up on that and it all fits in perfectly imo. Himashi just keeps pushing people, hoping something would come out of it so he can push towards a towny, then when it's almost too late for the towny to get saved the normal way his mafia partners lynch someone else to direct even MORE attention to a possible scumteam with the towny, if someone gets saved last moment by 2 people that must be a scumteam right? That's the normal thought, and himashi has been going all on about noob scumplays, no surprise for me that there's another "noob scumplay" from my part, and obviously himashi points that out again, linking me to his partners is easy enough after what happened, and of course he will go for me first so you can then see I'm a towny and then he's like "Well shit, it was a towny... sorry about that, I really did think he/she was mafia... Seeing as this person was a towny the 2 who saved him/her obviously aren't mafia, that's clear now." That is my prediction, don't get blinded by himashi, think about what I said and form your own opinion about what happened. Don't let the thing with who is scummier blind you in this case, only think about what happened and think about who is scummier right now, what scenario is likelier or however you spell that. Think for yourselves.
by Azumi A.
on Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:32 am
 
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So that was the promise, now I'll get back to normal reactions. First of all: because you think I'm scummy doesn't mean others believe the same. It just doesn't. Because I think you are scummy doesn't mean others will think it too now does it? Your "sizable pile of accusations". They remain accusations. I think you get the point. And then we're back to picking poisons. Seriously? That are not all the options. I still pick the one where I am town, which leaves other options as in they are town and actually realized how I am town, or they are mafia and it's for a plan, example: if someone else gets lynched to save me they can then jump on me or have town jumping at me while they just clean themselves, as it's mylo now that would almost surely give them the win, of course it's risky but that's how they play.

So now To clear something up. First is all: I'm quite possibly that townie desperate to live sunreeser mentioned...

Second: I do have to admit I'm trying to save my skin, but that doesn't mean I am lynching people for that sole reason, I am lynching because I find things scummy.

Third: I am confused as hell about what happened there "yesterday". That was legit surprising.

There were more things but I've forgotten
by Azumi A.
on Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:50 pm
 
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*laughs* I'm sorry but that is just so funny. I Will make you 1 promise, and in mafia I don't make those a lot to keep the worth of it high. This is a promise, whichever role I might have it will be true so read this through a few times. I did NOT push anyone towards lynching in any way outside of the obvious thread. Thinking I ordered them to lynch to save me is blatant idiocy.
by Azumi A.
on Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:34 pm
 
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I've also looked through the conversation between himashi and sunreeser again and it's just a bit odd how that one went. I doubt himashi didn't notice the thing with georgio actually being there so maybe they're actually a scumteam with toby. Toby got lynched and sunreeser /saved/ him by lynching koji too. It just seems odd to me. Himashi and sunreeser are connected and sunreeser and toby are connected. Himashi and toby have been pretty scummy to me and the thing where they're both connected to sunreeser makes me suspicious of him too, if I do die, remember this
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:30 pm
 
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I know that's what I said and I know it would probably be better for town to do as koji did, but unlike koji I want to live no matter what, that's the sole reason I do psanon, so I can live for once. not going to give the chance up. And yes I realize it might seem like I am trying to save my skin but there are 3 mafia and my discussion with you had me sliding into a tunnel vision. Only looking at 1 person and ignoring the others, realizing my mistake I looked at the posts others have made and concluded that of those toby was the one who was most suspicious to me.
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:22 pm
 
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One Last thing before I quite possibly get lynched, I've got a strategy. If at some point everyone is sure off a certain person being town, make sure that person is always protected. Say it If you're going to be the one using your protect on them that night. No trying to trick mafia as we have noticed that doesn't work. And if you've somehow still got a problem with that I wouldn't do that if I were mafia, as you can see it's really risky.
by Azumi A.
on Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:02 am
 
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Maybe not but maybe others would have agreed, if you don't try you'll never know. It's just the lack of contribution without actually being inactive that bothers me about you
by Azumi A.
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You could have looked at what other people have said and see who was being scummy and then lynch them as that would not so much be in the name of saving him as it would in the name of finding mafia.
by Azumi A.
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With deadline approaching I am going to cast my vote.

lynch toby

Now let me explain this, I'm on phone so can't really pull up the quotes but I've got a good idea of what Toby said as I just read through it. So Toby says that he doesn't believe koji is scum... but does he do something about it? Lynch someone who is more likely to be scum? No. Kinda weird but there are more people who did that. The difference is that they actually posted more, toby has been lurking which bothers me. we've got a big discussion that goes on for days IRL and toby only says 1 thing about it, of course there are others who did the same but in combination with the lurking it's as if he's trying to get the attention away from himself, saying pretty general things that several people are thinking, making sure he gets a post occasionally to not be seen as an inactive/lurker possibly waiting for an opportunity to make it seem like he had just been busy so he can pick up the conversation from there while it's easy to sound as town and then move on like that. Possibly. I could very well be wrong but you can hardly blame me for believing he's a better option than me.
by Azumi A.
on Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:12 pm
 
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Himashi G. wrote:I saw Azumi A. online at 10:15-30 PM GMT. He was gone by 10:35. He didn't reply to me.


Actually I've been online all that time replying
by Azumi A.
on Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:59 pm
 
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Himashi G. wrote:Okay, I understand now where sunreeser was coming from. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The below counter-rant is not addressed to Azumi, but rather to people who have a town read on her.

Azumi A. wrote:So for the thoughts, they're all about himashi. Surprising isn't it? *sarcasm* he is the most active person right now and he's got a lot of suspicions, it's kinda weird.
Being active and having a number of suspicions one greater than the size of the mafia is weird? I thought that just meant I was crudely forming my opinions of others at the beginning of the game. Sunreeser has been able to explain away the doubts I had, but you've not, Rossu and Daytona have yet to say much else so I don't know what else to think of them. See the underlined part beginning with "You do realize that..."

yeah I know it were suspicions and not that people would surely be scum, when posting that I wasn't thinking about it too much.

He's got a lot of suspicions and then says having few is scummy, but I'm actually one of the few people other than him who even have a suspicion in the first place, yet he only goes after me. Weird... And what makes it so scummy actually?
Your suspicion is on me, and that arose solely because I had a suspicion on you. That's OMGUSing, but subtly. And I said having NO suspicions is scummy--you're falling into a quasi-similar category; your only real suspicion is the person stirring up the pot against you.

err... if you'd have been going for someone else in the way you went for me i would have reacted exactly the same except for things only that person can explain. This is just one of your FALSE assumptions.

I legit don't think there's lots of scummy people right now...
The only person you've suggested so far was me (SEE BELOW); although, I will give this to you, it's been FoSing, not direct accusation.

mostly as nobody has really talked yet... so how come himashi has 4 people he finds scummy, while 1 of them is legit for the reason of not talking iirc? Just so he can shove things off to others who might be troubling for him? I don't know. Only he knows, and only he can know for sure.
You do realize that those weren't actual scum call-outs, right? Are you suggesting that I really believed three out of those four people had to be scum, because of their first few posts in the game? Those were the people that I had the most reason to doubt at the time because of their actions or words; that doesn't mean I completely distrusted them. Notice how I only lynched you when you started getting riled-up about me accusing you. Sunreeser was able to allay our misunderstanding by explaining more fully her actions; you have not, by arousing accusations against your accuser without actually solving the core dispute.

if that's what you want to believe... but I'm pretty sure I tried explaining it. You just didn't notice because you were too caught up trying to find ways in which I would be scummy, for yourself or for others. Now don't think this is me saying he's scum, this is a thought I'm having, something weird about himashi. People often think that my arguments mean that I think someone is scum, and while I do believe himashi is the most scummy person atm(SEE ABOVE), that doesn't mean I believe he's scum immediatley, it's just weird.
You have a weird feeling about me? Well... That's also a mistake newcomer mafia make. The "Halftones of Suspicions" effect occurs when, while sharing suspicions, especially on their most antagonistic opponent, the player doesn’t directly say that “this player is definitely mafia for me”. But a player says: “I feel weird about this person, but I'm not sure, so that’s why I think he is in-between villy and mafia. The speech would make more sense if you say: “You are mafia, I suspect you!”. The motive of this play is that, once someone has accused you, you want to distance yourself from them, while possibly making them appear scummy at the same time. Suggesting they are sort-of villy may encourage them to turn down the heat on you, while suggesting they are sort-of mafia at the same time may help turn public sentiment against them.

so wait... it would have been better to say ibelieve you're mafia? That's kinda weird and it's exactly what you're doing. And I've said this before, I'm not a newcomer. there are 3 regions for me, mafia, suspicious and town. Currently you're in suspicious.  

Another thing that's just weird about himashi is how he's so quick to lynch. Like seriously? It's day 2 and you can't really know who is what unless you're mafia, meaning that you should be careful with your lynches as town imo,
Do you recommend we nl??? Would you be saying this if I'd lynched someone else? Do you think we should just wait around for the inactives to start throwing some more information out before we start scumhunting/looking for reactions? Speaking of which, reaction is the biggest reason why I'm lynching you.

maybe i wouldn't have, but i would still notice it.

not just because it helps the town but also because of the leaderboards, say I get lynched and flip town he loses points... that is if he's town. If he's not then the he'll gain points.
10/10 logic, proof almost it's exactly what happened game 12

Dayton would get lynched by plurality if it wasn't for the lynch himashi placed... once again kinda weird though might be a coincidence.
Dayton must therefore be my scumpartner!
i said coincidence and you ignored it.
There were some other ideas I had about himashi but I forgot them Mad
I know that feel, I give you my condolences. :/

and while this is scummy I do not believe himashi should be lynched, he is after all starting discussions etc, then again having me being lynched would be kinda annoying too as I seem to keep discussions alive very well...
Assume that you are town. Who's better to keep around, me, who's pushing, scumhunting, and looking for reactions, or you, who spends your time defending yourself and explaining precisely why you didn’t protect your biggest town read. And to think I used my protect on you last night in case the mafia targeted you while targeting the town read, smh... So, since you A) only contributed to the discussion D2 through your own defense and my degradation and B) convinced me through your words and actions that you are scum, me lynching you is a no-brainer.
So this isn’t exactly a great argument in your favor. I will hold you to this belief for future reference.
sooo... there will be a future for me? And legit what discussion was there to contribute to? also protecting me was stupid as hell. This is why i couldn't protect willhiema, because people would be stupid and protect others.

Himashi, even if you do think I'm mafia, lynching me right now doesn't help town all that much, as if I am mafia and I'm so noobish as you think I can give you information, if I'm not as noobish as you think your assumptions are wrong.
I’d like everybody to read this multiple times and make their own opinions. As for mine:
“Lynching me is bad because, even if I am Mafia, I’m not noobish enough to give you information!”
Well… If lynching me is bad, and lynching you is bad, and I am the only true scummy read you have, then you’ve really forced yourself into a corner, now have you? Do you recommend we nl???


i think you kind of misunderstood that one, what i meant was that if my actions make me mafia i must be a newcomer, as a lot of your arguments require me to be a newcomer. if i really am mafia according to those arguments you can get information. If I'm not then that makes your reasoning incomplete.  
either way it's a bad idea to lynch me, as I'm not mafia but town,
You wasted your time and words typing that sentence.

and we as town need discussions, and there's not an awful lot of people who are willing to discuss right now.
I think this is a great discussion we have going on right now here; if you want to start a new one, have at it.

You stated before that lurking works, well why don't we look at the lurkers then? Instead of looking at people who are trying to help town.
I have more definitive evidence on you right now than I have the lurkers, they can wait for a day. And you’re not trying to help my town, you’re trying to save your skin.

meanwhile i am saying what my thoughts are to help town, if i do get lynched because of you and your weird reasoning that doesn't really work for psanon I don't want the town to not know my thoughts.  
and yes, I do change opinion a lot as my scumradar works really weird and sometimes I work with logic and deduction and sometimes I work with my scumradar. Logic usually saves me and my scumradar usually finds the scum.
Your scumdar seems to be broken right now though if I’m the only one you have Sad And your ‘logic’ about not saving her didn’t really save Willhiema, now did it? Unless, of course, it wasn’t logic that drove you to not protect her, it was ambition that drove you to claim to protect her. Pick your poison: mafia or bad-logic-town. Although I think if you were bad-logic-town you’d have given up by now like Koji did.

i pick stubborn townie that is going for the scumradar atm, meaning I'm vague as hell about everything.

And yes I do realize what I just said is scummy as hell, but I do feel we shouldn't fly at eachothers necks here, as there's other people who are doing less for town, and we don't want to be that one dead game.
[u]I didn’t think that what you said was all THAT scummy, perhaps you were paranoid when writing that part? And “flying at eachothers’ necks” = negative connotation for scumhunting. And I think one of those people doing ‘less for town’ is you. As I said, you’re not trying to help the town, you’re trying to save your skin. well if someone else would say what i said about lynching me being a bad idea i would find it scummy. also, I'm never paranoid.

I will be very surprised and/or dismayed if there turn out to be more than two other people who still support Azumi after this quote from her.


If you're "evidence" would really be so concrete nobody would be against it. If I were mafia they wouldn't dare go against it.
by Azumi A.
on Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:58 pm
 
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Game 14: Protect Wisely!

So for the thoughts, they're all about himashi. Surprising isn't it? *sarcasm* he is the most active person right now and he's got a lot of suspicions, it's kinda weird. He's got a lot of suspicions and then says having few is scummy, but I'm actually one of the few people other than him who even have a suspicion in the first place, yet he only goes after me. Weird... And what makes it so scummy actually? I legit don't think there's lots of scummy people right now... mostly as nobody has really talked yet... so how come himashi has 4 people he finds scummy, while 1 of them is legit for the reason of not talking iirc? Just so he can shove things off to others who might be troubling for him? I don't know. Only he knows, and only he can know for sure. Now don't think this is me saying he's scum, this is a thought I'm having, something weird about himashi. People often think that my arguments mean that I think someone is scum, and while I do believe himashi is the most scummy person atm, that doesn't mean I believe he's scum immediatley, it's just weird. Another thing that's just weird about himashi is how he's so quick to lynch. Like seriously? It's day 2 and you can't really know who is what unless you're mafia, meaning that you should be careful with your lynches as town imo, not just because it helps the town but also because of the leaderboards, say I get lynched and flip town he loses points... that is if he's town. If he's not then the he'll gain points. Dayton would get lynched by plurality if it wasn't for the lynch himashi placed... once again kinda weird though might be a coincidence. There were some other ideas I had about himashi but I forgot them Mad and while this is scummy I do not believe himashi should be lynched, he is after all starting discussions etc, then again having me being lynched would be kinda annoying too as I seem to keep discussions alive very well... Himashi, even if you do think I'm mafia, lynching me right now doesn't help town all that much, as if I am mafia and I'm so noobish as you think I can give you information, if I'm not as noobish as you think your assumptions are wrong. Either way it's a bad idea to lynch me, as I'm not mafia but town, and we as town need discussions, and there's not an awful lot of people who are willing to discuss right now. You stated before that lurking works, well why don't we look at the lurkers then? Instead of looking at people who are trying to help town. And yes, I do change opinion a lot as my scumradar works really weird and sometimes I work with logic and deduction and sometimes I work with my scumradar. Logic usually saves me and my scumradar usually finds the scum. And yes I do realize what I just said is scummy as hell, but I do feel we shouldn't fly at eachothers necks here, as there's other people who are doing less for town, and we don't want to be that one dead game.
by Azumi A.
on Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:41 am
 
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Game 14: Protect Wisely!

have got some other interesting thoughts coming up but for now I'm going to eat
by Azumi A.
on Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:57 am
 
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