Game 13: Protect Wisely!

Really not sure what to think of Gligarman right now, I mean, is being disinterested in the game strictly scummy? It's more worthy of a sub than a lynch IMO.

Alright, I finally thouroughly looked through yesterday, because I was slightly inactive then and it seems what happened then is affecting my scumreads. I was looking at the fact that both Temaku and McKenzie being scum made no sense because they both lynched scum, but I was still considering the fact that just McKenzie could still be scum, and that Temaku's lynch kind of cornered her into keeping her lynch on her partner. That seems less likely now looking back because I also had a lynch on myself, and she could have easily unlynched and lynched me. I still wish she would back up her suspicions with evidence however.

If lynching me would get you enough info to find a mafia, then do so by all means. I'd gladly sacrifice my points for this game if it meant getting us a step closer to winning. However, I am curious what my flipping town would prove as the only person who really suspects me is probably town.

I haven't finished catching up(just finished reading sayuri's post about scumteams), but if we lynch Lilian and she turns out scum, Gligarman is pretty much guaranteed town unless they did some random and extreme bussing on day 1.

Sayuri K. wrote:Really not sure what to think of Gligarman right now, I mean, is being disinterested in the game strictly scummy? It's more worthy of a sub than a lynch IMO.

Scummy? not really.
Needs a sub? definitely.
IDK why he's continuing to play if he doesn't care about the game >_>

TBH I don't think Sakie is scum as of right now, just that she hasn't been taking everything into account when bringing up evidence for some of her arguments/hasn't realized what has been wrong with some of her arguments...
I honestly think the two scum are in Gligarman, Lilian, Ogata, and Georgio(this list was also kind of made by PoE, which isn't the most reliable method =/).
Also if one of Gligarman and Lilian turns out scum, i'm fairly certain the other isn't scum.

I say we shouldn't lynch Gligarman right now. Just wait and see if he actually wants to play or not, and if he doesn't aj can just sub him out. No point in the "if he doesn't want to play just kill him" route.

Yeah, I'd obviously rather get a helpful sub then lynch Gligarman for his refusal to contribute.

Sakie H. wrote:Yeah, I'd obviously rather get a helpful sub then lynch Gligarman for his refusal to contribute.

Well that's..completely different from what you said earlier. Weren't you saying you wanted to lynch Gligarman for his refusal to contribute? .-.

Sayuri K. wrote:I say we shouldn't lynch Gligarman right now. Just wait and see if he actually wants to play or not, and if he doesn't aj can just sub him out. No point in the "if he doesn't want to play just kill him" route.

Wait, did I say we should lynch Gligarman? O_o
I thought I said that he ought to be subbed.
Either way, we could just wait for a bit and see if he wants to play, but this is directed at him: if you don't want to play, please message aj for a sub. Please.

Temaku T. wrote:

Sayuri K. wrote:I say we shouldn't lynch Gligarman right now. Just wait and see if he actually wants to play or not, and if he doesn't aj can just sub him out. No point in the "if he doesn't want to play just kill him" route.

Wait, did I say we should lynch Gligarman? O_o
I thought I said that he ought to be subbed.
Either way, we could just wait for a bit and see if he wants to play, but this is directed at him: if you don't want to play, please message aj for a sub. Please.

I wasn't replying to you, I was just stating my opinion on the situation.

Sayuri K. wrote:

Temaku T. wrote:

Sayuri K. wrote:I say we shouldn't lynch Gligarman right now. Just wait and see if he actually wants to play or not, and if he doesn't aj can just sub him out. No point in the "if he doesn't want to play just kill him" route.

Wait, did I say we should lynch Gligarman? O_o
I thought I said that he ought to be subbed.
Either way, we could just wait for a bit and see if he wants to play, but this is directed at him: if you don't want to play, please message aj for a sub. Please.

I wasn't replying to you, I was just stating my opinion on the situation.

Ah, sorry. I got confused because your message was right after mine lol

Sorry if I appear disinterested, but not being able to submit any night actions really sucks. Why can't I? I'm using my phone. Why wasn't I aware McKenzie seemed good? Because I was on my phone and flicking through 23 pages of stuff gets annoying, especially if there's literally an ad every goddamn page that takes me out of my browser!

The Gligarman wrote:Sorry if I appear disinterested, but not being able to submit any night actions really sucks. Why can't I? I'm using my phone. Why wasn't I aware McKenzie seemed good? Because I was on my phone and flicking through 23 pages of stuff gets annoying, especially if there's literally an ad every goddamn page that takes me out of my browser!

I feel you.

Sayuri K. wrote:

Sakie H. wrote:Yeah, I'd obviously rather get a helpful sub then lynch Gligarman for his refusal to contribute.

Well that's..completely different from what you said earlier. Weren't you saying you wanted to lynch Gligarman for his refusal to contribute? .-.

Well yeah, I don't feel it's needed for someone who is literally doing nothing to stay alive. Since aj has been pushing him to talk and the fact he does still post here and there I don't think he's going to get subbed out. That's why I said I'd be for a lynch on him.

so basically the gligarman cant even use his night powers ever because he uses his phone to get online but continues to try to play?

also atm im not sure on anyone. sakie just seems pissy for being thrown under the bus. lillian is inactive. gligarman is barely active. Georgio is barely active. ogata is inacitve. Sayuri is trying to lead which can be scummy.

lynch ogata r

lillian has been on the hot seat, time for ogata

trying to scum hunt is scummy.

I'm done.

McKenzie... wat?
What do you mean by trying to lead can be scummy?

So now everyone is starting to see what I saw in McKenzie a while ago.

Lynch Lilian

if she flips mafia we have a confirmed towny in Gligarman.

Sakie, we still have to remember that bad logic/no logic =/= mafia.

...and also that McKenzie lynched mafia on day 2.

Bussing is a thing but whatever.

lynch Lillian

I guess, but it's still a very unlikely possibility in this case imo.

basically you can be scummy trying to lead by pushing possible scum while you try to remove yourself from the players' mind. Its not a huge red flag but its always a possibility.

also you guys screwed up my plans, I wanted to put pressure on ogata to post and defend themselves but there is no need for them to do that now. We had 2 days to kill.

McKenzie Q. wrote:basically you can be scummy trying to lead by pushing possible scum while you try to remove yourself from the players' mind. Its not a huge red flag but its always a possibility.

Ah. So you're saying your slight suspicion of Sayuri stems from her scumteam possibility list/her analysis of others/general scumhunting in which she didn't include herself?
Eh, I guess I see what you're saying but very few people include themselves in stuff like that, whether they are town or mafia.