Game 12: Vengeful Mafia Mafia

Osashi D. wrote:

Mizuho N. wrote:LMAO thats hilarious, my safesettings thing blocked this site for like 20 seconds because it was classified as pornography! Maybe it was a pop-up? Not sure.

Anyway I am not quoting Osashi coz its WAAAAY too long, so i will respond without quoting. This is the post when Osashi replied to Natchis comments. The replies are in order and there is a blank line to separare each one.

You have a point for mafia being too lynch happy. But from experience (I had a pretty long one) that agressive and pretty effective townies also do the same thing. However now this strategy makes the person get lynched pretty quickly for being too aggro which is what scum does quite a bit (especially near the end). So i guess we cant say 100% if that piece of evidence means that Kezoki is scum or town. Also, i do think Kezoki did an OMGUS lynch but i dont disagree that Osashi did one either. In fact when it comes to OMGUS you are both as bad as each other.

The problem is that this game has no method of verifying information because there is no investigative roles. I don't think it is best in this game to be aggressive as both mafia or town. Firstly, rapid lynching (lynching early)  is not good at all. It only shows that you are lynch-happy. To me personally, town cannot respond effectively because there is no way to prove if Kezoki lynch is right or wrong. Therefore, town usually stay neutral and don't take actions. This means that the person that lynches first in the game will win, which I don't think is a good thing. As mafia, being too aggressive in this format is bad for obvious reasons. If you keep on lynching without good reasoning then people will look at you badly. This is probably the reason why most of the mafia in this game haven't been lynching at all. Therefore, my conclusion is that any aggressive players should be lynched as they are not helping town at all.

Thats true but I mean of course, it would be way too obvious if you actually did what you just said. So mafia is obviously gonna comprimise.
For sure. However, there is nothing I can do if those were truly my thoughts.

Basically yeah, mostly everything has a scum side and a town side. For example, say I post an intricate readlist or something, it could be scummy because I am trying to manipulate town into thinking a certain way. But in stuff like these it's up to your mentality to think logically rather than saying that Natchi F is scummy because his avatar contains Watermelons.
Don't exactly understand what you mean here, sorry

The answer to that question is simply, yes! To determine if a lynch is OMGUS, its literally when you lynnch someone who has lynched you. Whatever the reason really. Remember OMGUS may not necessarily mean its scummy, there can be OMGUS lynches for good reasons, but i dont think both of yours were. But i sort of agree, Kezoki didnt actually prove anything legit, the points he made were sort of flawed, but i do sort of get the gist of what he is trying ti say about Osashi.. (i believe they have been written in another post somewhere, or maybe scattered in multiple posts).

I know that OMGUS can be a good thing. After all, it's just a word to describe an action. However, I have to disagree that you said my lynch wasn't for good reasons. Kezoki was the scummiest person to me during day 2 and on day 3 he proved nothing more than acting even scummier, so I lynched him. If you don't think that the reason is valid then I don't know what to do.

I guess that is something Kezoki is gonna reply to, not me.

I would also like to here from him, before I.... (shrugs) die.. Also during deadline I will be sleeping so this night will be the last time I can talk if votes aren't changing.

Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?

Agatha A. wrote:I'm sorry I haven't really been on yesterday, I had a lot of things to do, and same about today (IRL times, if you're wondering). I don't really know what to do atm, I could set myself safe for now by lynching osashi but I'm not really convinced osashi is mafia... I do know one thing for sure though, chances are there is a mafia that is actually one of the really active people, seeing as there are 3 people who aren't really talking and 4 who are actually really talking, and seeing as most of us know people who just don't talk during games, even when town, it's not all that weird that there are people who aren't really talking. but still, WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE! Nicolai, Warden, Brendan...

TALK. PLEASE.

We know Warden and Brendan are here so why aren't you 2 talking? just participate for once, please...

Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?

Agatha A. wrote:well duh, of course it's important to decide right now, though out of all active people right now, and this might seem a bit stupid, I am trusting osashi and natchi most. don't ask me why, I don't know, natchi is kinda logical but osashi isn't very logical

Agatha A. wrote:on another note, on your advice mizuho, I read through all your messages, and especially at the start of the game I found some strange things things that aren't really all that towny, and while we're talking about kezoki being lynch happy, he wasn't really the only one, you have been lynching people every day so far...

Agatha A. wrote:on another note, on your advice mizuho, I read through all your messages, and especially at the start of the game I found some strange things things that aren't really all that towny, and while we're talking about kezoki being lynch happy, he wasn't really the only one, you have been lynching people every day so far...

Agatha A. wrote:well duh, of course it's important to decide right now, though out of all active people right now, and this might seem a bit stupid, I am trusting osashi and natchi most. don't ask me why, I don't know, natchi is kinda logical but osashi isn't very logical

Osashi D. wrote:

Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?

I'm sorry but I didn't understand what you meant at all despite it being directed to mizuho..

Anyways I'll be back in a bit with my finals post for the day and potentially the game.

Mizuho N. wrote:

Osashi D. wrote:

Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?

I'm sorry but I didn't understand what you meant at all despite it being directed to mizuho..

Anyways I'll be back in a bit with my finals post for the day and potentially the game.

Didnt you say you were gonna post an updated readlist? Is that what your final post?

Agatha A. wrote:so, the situation right now (sorry for not putting this all in 1 message... I keep posting something and then remembering another point): there are 6 villagers and 3 mafia left, if we misslynch we'll have 5-3, if we lynch correctly we'll have 5-2, the odds of lynching correctly are 1 in 3 though with 2 failed lynches already... if we end up with 5-3 we can misslynch once more for the rest of the game, but once we use that misslynch we MUST lynch mafia each time, if we end up with 5-2, we have 2 misslynches before we have to lynch mafia every time, which is obviously better.