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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

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Post by Sayuri K. Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:03 pm

Sakie H. wrote:
McKenzie Q. wrote:Gan Gogh(4)- McKenzie Q., Ogata R., Sakie H., Temaku T.

obviously i know im not mafia. so that leaves these 3. i feel one of the mafia didn't vote so that leaves

Not Voting(4)- Georgio F., Kazuchi O., Forrester C., Izuna D.

forrester is dead. leaving one of those 3.

though im not completely sold on sayu, defending a villager who is going to get lynch to "prove" that she is innocent could be possibility.


So you, considering yourself town, went and lynched Gan Gogh.  Despite that, you still believe that 2 of the other people who lynched him are mafia.  If you lynched him as town, don't you think it's possible that most, if not all of the other people who lynched him are also town?

I...I don't...

Hey guys, this towny lynched a towny. I also lynched the same towny. That means I'm probably town! Right guys?

If you think that justifies bandwagoning really early on with no evidence...it doesn't. I can't believe the length you're going to to make it less seem scummy. lynch Sakie
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Post by Temaku T. Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:43 pm

Sayuri, remember that bad logic =/= scum, as we've seen from Gan Gogh's lynch =/
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Post by McKenzie Q. Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:50 pm

i was the first one to lynch him. Therefore i didn't really expect him to be lynched and the people who did lynch him wanted him to be lynched therefore knocking off a villager.
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Post by Sayuri K. Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:09 pm

Temaku T. wrote:Sayuri, remember that bad logic =/= scum, as we've seen from Gan Gogh's lynch =/

Big difference here. Gan Gogh used bag logic to try and get me lynched. Sakie is using bad logic to defend herself. If she already did something scummy, then uses questionable logic to say that it isn't scummy, how does that make her less scummy?
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Post by Sakie H. Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:23 pm

I'v been against bandwagoning since the beginning of day 1. The point I was trying to make wasn't that I am town, it never was. I'm just saying that suspecting everyone who lynches a townie on day 1 without information, especially when you lynched the same townie, is completely unjustified.
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Post by Temaku T. Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:04 pm

Sayuri K. wrote:
Temaku T. wrote:Sayuri, remember that bad logic =/= scum, as we've seen from Gan Gogh's lynch =/

Big difference here. Gan Gogh used bag logic to try and get me lynched. Sakie is using bad logic to defend herself. If she already did something scummy, then uses questionable logic to say that it isn't scummy, how does that make her less scummy?
I'm confused, didn't you say that the original bandwagons themselves didn't really mean anything because it was the random voting stage, or something like that? Or was that someone else?
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Post by Temaku T. Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:16 pm

Just re-read and Sakie's last post seems legit (like, that's what she was trying to convey in her posts).
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Post by Lilian P. Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:33 am

huh
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Post by Sayuri K. Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:48 am

Lilian P. wrote:huh

Really contributing to the conversation.
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Post by Sayuri K. Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:49 am

Temaku T. wrote:
Sayuri K. wrote:
Temaku T. wrote:Sayuri, remember that bad logic =/= scum, as we've seen from Gan Gogh's lynch =/

Big difference here. Gan Gogh used bag logic to try and get me lynched. Sakie is using bad logic to defend herself. If she already did something scummy, then uses questionable logic to say that it isn't scummy, how does that make her less scummy?
I'm confused, didn't you say that the original bandwagons themselves didn't really mean anything because it was the random voting stage, or something like that? Or was that someone else?

No?
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Post by Georgio F. Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:51 am

Temaku T. wrote:Just re-read and Sakie's last post seems legit (like, that's what she was trying to convey in her posts).
I actually agree here. From what I see, she isn't just pulling stuff out of her ass as she needs it--every defense seems constant and unchanging.
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Post by ajhockeystar Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:04 am

Votecount 2.2
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Kazuchi O.(1)- McKenzie Q.
Sakie H.(1)- Sayuri K.
Lilian P.(0)-
The Gligarman(0)-
Ogata R.(0)-
Temaku T.(0)-
Georgio F.(0)-
Sayuri K.(0)-
Izuna D.(0)-
McKenzie Q.(0)-
Not Voting(Cool- Georgio F., Kazuchi O., Izuna D., Ogata R., Sakie H., Temaku T., The Gligarman, Lilian P.
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There are 10 alive so it takes 6 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Monday the 2nd at 9pm EST.

If the deadline was now, Kazuchi O. would be lynched.
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Post by McKenzie Q. Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:27 pm

what happened to gligarman
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Post by Temaku T. Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:26 pm

Sayuri K. wrote:
Temaku T. wrote:
Sayuri K. wrote:
Temaku T. wrote:Sayuri, remember that bad logic =/= scum, as we've seen from Gan Gogh's lynch =/

Big difference here. Gan Gogh used bag logic to try and get me lynched. Sakie is using bad logic to defend herself. If she already did something scummy, then uses questionable logic to say that it isn't scummy, how does that make her less scummy?
I'm confused, didn't you say that the original bandwagons themselves didn't really mean anything because it was the random voting stage, or something like that? Or was that someone else?

No?
Gah, sorry, I mixed you up with someone else then >_>
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Post by Temaku T. Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:29 pm

Yo Lilian can you please reiterate your arguments against Gligarman from yesterday?
Lynch: The Gligarman
bb come back pls
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Post by Ogata R. Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:55 pm

The Gligarman needs to return without a doubt, he has left after I laid my suspicions out. Though if this was the cause I do not know, I don't think he's posted this game day though. He was quite active before hammer was dropped, and suddenly his posts seem to have stopped. I shall quote about him what I have said, so the idea is fresh in his head. A good defense is all I want, for a bad spot on my conscious I do not want.
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Post by Ogata R. Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:57 pm

Ogata R. wrote:The posts I thought of were simply a mistake. It was Sayuri and Gan Gogh, one whose death could not be fake. But also in my search I have found to scummy lines by the same man, and while I'm not blaming him the scumminess does not make me a fan.

The Gligarman wrote:Err, I'm trying to push attention away from me because I feel like I've made an error somewhere and I don't know how to fix it lol and I'd rather not get lynched because I am THE GLIGARMAN, HERO OF TOWN

While yes this did come from the joke stage of town, the first part of this really makes me frown. You outright say, that you're pushing attention away. Is this not a good tactic for scum, or is this worse to me than it looks to some?


The Gligarman wrote:While Sayuri may have genuinely defended people, her attacks on me come off as rather scummy and unjustified.

This is was when she was arguing with Gan Gogh, and Gligarman was nowhere near her as a foe. She was not lynching him but yet he calls her out, saying she defends everyone else, but him, so he must pout.



Does this mean he is not our true hero? Maybe another player can read this and if my idea is a ten, or a zero

This post was at the time what I could afford, but it seems to have been largely ignored. I'll leave this here and I'll read back again, to see if I find more instances of sin.
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Post by Temaku T. Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:56 pm

IDK I think we're all just kinda waiting on Gligarman to come back and respond to everything that's been brought up.
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Post by Sayuri K. Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:43 pm

well, Kazuchi was online...and she decided to post nothing. Yay.
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Post by Temaku T. Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:18 pm

ul Gligarman, lynch Kazuchi
how bout you stop lurking and start helping
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Post by Ogata R. Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:35 pm

Has Kazuchi even posted at all, or have they been just a fly on the wall? I can't remember a thing she's said, is that true, or is it just in my head?
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Post by Sayuri K. Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:20 pm

Kazuchi O. wrote:I'm confirmed brahhh

^this

Ugh...it's so frustrating how this game is at a standstill. Gligarman has completely disappeared, Lilian comes on and says "huh," Kazuchi comes on and says nothing, Izuna or whatever he name is hasn't come on...
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Post by The Gligarman Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:41 pm

Sorry, after the hammer I realised I couldn't actually submit and night action if I wanted to, which is annoying because I would have protected Forrester.

And yeah, on the second day I just lost attention of the game.

In response to Ogata, it would be silly if I were mafia and I revealed what each of my intentions were.
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Post by Ogata R. Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:09 pm

Well you haven't revealed your intentions at all, and with a reason that suspiscion must fall. You disappear and come back with a claim, a claim that really is quite lame. What do you mean you could not submit, has your PM box taken a hit?


Also why Forrester if I may ask, he really did not talk and a sub took his task. That just seems to convienient to me, excuses like that are lame as can be.
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Post by Sayuri K. Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:14 pm

The Gligarman wrote:Sorry, after the hammer I realised I couldn't actually submit and night action if I wanted to, which is annoying because I would have protected Forrester.

And yeah, on the second day I just lost attention of the game.

In response to Ogata, it would be silly if I were mafia and I revealed what each of my intentions were.

Our lord and savior has returned!
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