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Game 35: Vengecop

NO U DUMMY IM TOWN

unless ur mafia thats literally the dumbest fucking thing to do PLEASE UNVOTE
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:52 am
 
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Okay what is everyone thinking?

I high key haven't been here so I actually have to catch up on reading

but no one make make impulsive lynches yet........ PlEaSe
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:50 am
 
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ok thank u
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:47 am
 
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Yes but in case Orthinol is scum he can hammer either way so we should talk about it FIRST

LIKE NORMAL 3 PLAYER LYLO KEENAN PLEASE UNVOTE
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:46 am
 
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HELLOOOOO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE SUCH IMPULSIVE LYNCHES SIR

by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:45 am
 
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bro pls....
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:32 am
 
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bro im town
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:31 am
 
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Uhm Keenan please get off me please

you will regret it later

BEFORE ORTHINOL COMES ONLINE
by Tedesco T.
on Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 am
 
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Hi friends sorry I’ve been unfortunately busy but tomorrow is a new day!

I’m not sure if I’ll be able to come back before deadline so I shall

lynch jean
by Tedesco T.
on Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:31 pm
 
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Game 35: Vengecop

Jean A. wrote:Hi guys


Hola Jean
by Tedesco T.
on Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:25 pm
 
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Orthinol Q. wrote:Nanny and Gail town, Frank I'm still kinda unhappy with day 1 but he looks better day 2. There's better lynches anyways for sure, I agree we need to kinds focus on the inactives but it's just kinda rand? Should we all just sheep onto the same one or what? Clearing them with cop also would be very helpful if there's any town deaths, stop us mislynching the spots we have no info on.


Why are Nanny and Gail town? I'd just like to hear the reasoning behind this.

Talking about your later post, I agree that Frank's town/mafia read post seemed scummy and your reasoning for that made sense to me however I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone would buss this early in the game in this setup. I'll definitely revisit Frank as scum again later if need be but right now it doesn't seem likely in my head nor does it seem like a good lynch even if he's town.

I also don't think all three mafia are inactive because theres no way the game would progress, but atleast one other inactive is definitely a possibility.

In my opinion we need to lynch someone who is active enough to at least check the posts even if they are not posting themselves. That way if they are town we can still come up with who we want to clear/expose. Lynching a complete inactive might not be the best way to go about today.
by Tedesco T.
on Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:24 pm
 
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Frank S. wrote:
Tedesco T. wrote:
Wasn't so much how quickly it was but moreso your reasoning in the post you made about lynching her kind of seemed like you wanted to lynch her to change the focus to Oralie being scummy instead of you. Since it was after Orthinol had just called u out for xyz reasons.
I understand no matter whether you're town or mafia, you don't want to be lynched but obviously mafia has more to lose so town wouldn't be as willing to place their serious lynch unless they were like absolutely positive about their scum read which you didn't really say either.

Thanks for clarifying. What i'd say to counterpoint this is that in my question to Gail, I did bring up Oralie so it was something I was considering, although not as strongly until her post.
It's unfortunate that I came on after Orthinol/Nanny posted but they wouldnt have changed my lynch - unless they argued for reasons why Gail's post didn't hold up.

I'm also a bit curious as to why a lynch is "serious" - realistically, until the end of the day a lynch just marks who you think is the most suspicious / a potential good lynch target. If unlynching didn't exist then sure.
You have mentioned that lynching Oralie is serious, so it would be nice to hear you elaborate if you mean anything other than it being a lynch based on zero reasoning.


Apologies, I must have missed this post.

The fact that the game runs under plurality makes lynching all that more serious, because in plurality, its not just to indicate that you want this person lynched as of now but based on what other people do i.e removing their lynched last minute can get someone else lynched so we obviously need to be more mindful about placing lynches. From my experience, I've noticed town players are more reluctant to lynch because of this fact. Keeping that in mind, correlation doesn't equal causation but I'm just explaining why it came off a little scummy that you were quick to get attention off yourself.

by Tedesco T.
on Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:57 pm
 
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Thank you for that Nanny, you are truly an imperative player of this game Arrow


Yeah so I'm still waiting for Frank to respond to mine/gail's post. I'm going to look more into Oralie and the reasonings behind that but other than that we'll need more people to give their thoughts to progress in the game.
by Tedesco T.
on Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:09 pm
 
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Frank S. wrote:
Gail S. wrote:I've mainly mentioned Oralie in my posts, so I don't know where the lynch options came from. Also, I prefer to lynch nearer to end of day, just so that everyone have a chance to discuss and talk. There is enough pressure on Oralie already. Speaking of which... I see Oralie online.


Gail S. wrote:3) I still stand by the fact that we should lynch people that are not universally townread, including inactives.

This is what i meant by lynch options. Is there anyone you would think is a good lynch here?
Why do you think lynching in the middle of the day impedes discussion?

Tedesco T. wrote:Ok continuing, but then I read this, it kind of rubbed me the wrong way how quick Frank was to jump on the Oralie lynch. I agree that it was a good point made by Gail but I feel like jumping so quickly on the oralie lynch after being accused as scummy seems like he wants to get attention off of him and onto Oralie as quick as possible.

In my opinion, if he was town he wouldn't be as quick to lynch given the circumstances. Obviously, this depends on what Oralie actually is as well but that's just what I observed. Thoughts?

I would like to say that the point was being made by me originally, but Gail confirmed it & elaborated.

I don't really see how the speed of the lynch is relevant? I suppose I can understand thinking its a bit weird I coincidentally lynch Oralie after someone else has done it before me, but me lynching Oralie quickly isnt really something that's strange?
If you meant the former then that's fine, but if you meant the latter then i'm curious as to what your reasoning is.


Wasn't so much how quickly it was but moreso your reasoning in the post you made about lynching her kind of seemed like you wanted to lynch her to change the focus to Oralie being scummy instead of you. Since it was after Orthinol had just called u out for xyz reasons.
I understand no matter whether you're town or mafia, you don't want to be lynched but obviously mafia has more to lose so town wouldn't be as willing to place their serious lynch unless they were like absolutely positive about their scum read which you didn't really say either.
by Tedesco T.
on Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:20 am
 
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Frank S. wrote:
Orthinol Q. wrote:
Frank S. wrote:well, i'll give an explanation if we lynch them and they flip town.


I don't like this post at all, waiting to give an explanation later is just a scum excuse for not giving a reasoning? It does not forward discussion at all and therefore is anti-town.

I understand and respect your thought process here. That being said, you're wrong and i'm 90% certain I stated that I didn't mention what specifically was pinging me on Lindsay because it was behavioral. If it's something general, then I don't want to reveal it because scum!Lindsay would change their behavior accordingly AND other scum would try and avoid the thing i pointed out.
If there are behavioral reads that I think won't impact the players anymore, I talk about them (i.e. Keenan).

Gail S. wrote:
Yeah, the reason why I scumread Oralie is because she is very indecisive. She definitely engages in conversation, but she doesn't seem to conclude anything. Here are some examples:

"I think they're saying that since Santo assumed today's lynch will be town(WITHOUT knowing who is even going to be lynched, Tobasco dude thinks that Santo might have scumslipped? I'm not 100% sure but that's what I got from it."
Here she is explaining Lindsey's post but she did not provide any opinions about the actual post. In her other post in which she commented on my inspect proposal, she kinda just argued for both sides and end up confused.

"cause this is really hurting my brain right now. Going to let this bop around in my head for a bit."

Then in her last post, she is "confused" again and asked Frank a question. Then, she agreed with not having a specific lynch pool but end her post saying "still trying to put my thoughts into words".

So basically to me, it seems like she is trying to say something, but at the same time also not really saying anything. Although I have to say, after reading it through again, it did not strike me as a hard scum as the first time I read it. But anyways, this is the reasoning for my scum read on her.

This is a good point that I haven't given enough weight to! I think it's a reasonable starting place as well.
Lynch Oralie

Is there anything you find suspicious about any of the other players? Do you feel as strongly about Orthinol as you did on the previous day?

Nanny G. wrote:
At first I thought the best strategy was to inspect the AFKs on death but now I don't know because say they're clear, then we have an AFK leading town.

We should probably just inspect controversial players / our own scum reads.

I don't think there's necessarily anything WRONG with inspecting an AFK player because it does effectively narrow our lynch pool - just because they're clear doesn't mean they necessarily have to lead town, it just means that we can consider their input as 100% coming from town and don't have to doubt it.
mafia might also just off them which will save the more active townies!

wrt inspecting controversial players, sure
own scum reads are definitely good targets, as long as said scum reads werent super public and obvious to track wrt kills


Ok continuing, but then I read this, it kind of rubbed me the wrong way how quick Frank was to jump on the Oralie lynch. I agree that it was a good point made by Gail but I feel like jumping so quickly on the oralie lynch after being accused as scummy seems like he wants to get attention off of him and onto Oralie as quick as possible.

In my opinion, if he was town he wouldn't be as quick to lynch given the circumstances. Obviously, this depends on what Oralie actually is as well but that's just what I observed. Thoughts?
by Tedesco T.
on Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:12 pm
 
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I don't know how to quote things properly sorry let me figure this out
by Tedesco T.
on Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:07 pm
 
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Gail S. wrote:
Frank S. wrote:lol yikes thats an unfortunate inspect
wacky nightkill too i suppose, but i guess thats just because i was the only one who was considering lindsey as scum?
the reads i haven't clarified are b/c they were based on behavioral cues, and talking about them would make the scum in the game try to avoid said cues

I am curious about the reasoning behind a potential oralie lynch @gail? I do see a potential reason stemming from how she appears to be extremely unsure in everything she says, but nothing else really pings me as suspicious.

also my original keenan townread was coined because I don't think scum ever enters the game the way he did, since its an easy way to put negative focus on him with zero positive gain


Yeah, the reason why I scumread Oralie is because she is very indecisive. She definitely engages in conversation, but she doesn't seem to conclude anything. Here are some examples:

"I think they're saying that since Santo assumed today's lynch will be town(WITHOUT knowing who is even going to be lynched, Tobasco dude thinks that Santo might have scumslipped? I'm not 100% sure but that's what I got from it."
Here she is explaining Lindsey's post but she did not provide any opinions about the actual post. In her other post in which she commented on my inspect proposal, she kinda just argued for both sides and end up confused.

"cause this is really hurting my brain right now. Going to let this bop around in my head for a bit."

Then in her last post, she is "confused" again and asked Frank a question. Then, she agreed with not having a specific lynch pool but end her post saying "still trying to put my thoughts into words".

So basically to me, it seems like she is trying to say something, but at the same time also not really saying anything. Although I have to say, after reading it through again, it did not strike me as a hard scum as the first time I read it. But anyways, this is the reasoning for my scum read on her.



SO basically when I read this the first time around and then looked at Oralie's posts I was able to understand why you say she's scummy but then
by Tedesco T.
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Game 35: Vengecop

Hello again companions!

Been a long week but I have returned and caught up
by Tedesco T.
on Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:05 pm
 
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Lindsay L. wrote:Santo ever the slightest bit more likely to be scum for the assumption today’s lynch will be town

Discuss


What do you mean by this? Can you explain in dumb person language
by Tedesco T.
on Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:20 pm
 
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I opt to Vote Orthinol

your name sounds like a cough medication, care to explain, sir?
by Tedesco T.
on Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:18 pm
 
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Game 35: Vengecop

Don't be alarmed, Detective Tedesco is reporting for duty
by Tedesco T.
on Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:11 pm
 
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Ready to Rumble
by Tedesco T.
on Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:54 pm
 
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