Game 18: Jungle Republic

GDI, if you guys were actually active we would not only have our seer alive, but Ephraim alive too. Y'all need to listen to me. I is smarticles...

Anyways since AJ told Dr. Akihabara that WW killed mafia N1, and that Dr. Akihabara is Giant Alien Zombie Werewolf then he must be WW. Lol.

Nah but for real, I suggest we lynch Captain Aiden, like I suggested yesterday, for the reasons I previously stated. I also believe we should look into the most recent reads of both Dominick and Ephraim as well as into the most recent reads posted on them... although tbh i was packing for college so i didn't even know deadline was close, and there was also that MAJOR lack of contribution.

Speaking of lack of contribution I would like to ask Ralph this. WHY didn't you lynch  Aidan yesterday. I posted with a significant amount of time before you posted your response to everything, so you shoulda been able to read what i posted. and if it was too long there was a tl;dr. I stated, with sound reasoning, why Dominick was likely to be town. Yet you neglected it. I also stated, albeit, with slightly less sound reasoning, why Aidan was likely to be WW. You cast my thoughts aside.

I believe this was a scum move. Mainly because I described in detail why Dominick was town. Seeing as though mafia have no means to eliminate the seer, who can be easily confirmed, besides the lynch, and it would be slightly more difficult for them to win with a confirmed townie in play it makes sense that they would want to try to get rid of the seer, asap, and what better way than to allow a mislynch on the seer when WW is in play. It's a risky move though. WW could easily nightkill them as we all saw N1. So yeah i think Ralph is likely to be mafia, keep that in mind for tomorrow because I feel it is a bigger priority to eliminate the WW.

Note the reason I am not pressing too hard on Dr. Akihabara is the fact that I have no way of telling whether or not he saw my post as to why Dominick isn't scum. I'll look into him later.

Anyways Lynch Captain Aiden.

Tl;dr: Captain Aiden is practically confirmed WW (he isn't really but he might as well be imo.) See reasoning in my previous post. Ralph is likely mafia. The shoutacons are everywhere.

Melanie B. wrote:Alright, so we lynched the seer. This confirms Katrina as not WW.  She could obviously still be mafia, but that's for another day.  Captain Aiden seems fairly suspicious for backing out on his seer claim like that, but he might have just failed horribly at hypo.  Dr. Akihabara is fairly scummy for being the only lynch on Domenick, although he was admittedly pretty scummy himself.  

Im starting to understand the different mindsets people have in anon games and I'm suspecting Ralph to be scum just based on how he's been acting.  He was inactive early and was very apologetic, he didn't believe Domenick's seer claim initially, which would explain why a seer claim wasn't targetted night one.  He also seems to agree with what everyone else is saying and not adding many new points himself.  

If I were to lynch right now it would be either Ralph or Aiden, but I'd like to see some discussion on who everyone else suspects before finalizing anything.  I'd especially like to see some activity from inactives such as Egan, Ryou, and Mollie's new sub.

Also speaking of inactives, welcome back Melanie.

>"we" lynched the seer
>like you had any part to do with what happened yesterday

I doubt that Aidan failed at hypo since the general consensus was that hypo was a bad idea. Plus he did it when there was one cc who was generally viewed as scummy and there was one WW left. Also consider the fact thaat neither seer claim died N1. All signs point to Aidan as wolf, js.

I'm actually really suspicious of Dr. A and Katrina for their lynching yesterday. There was nothing about Dominick's play which screamed anything but town and I think that lynching him was only mafia-minded. However, that's not the main target today. The main target is Lynch Egan G. because I have no doubt in my mind that he is anti-town, and I think there is a strong chance he is werewolf. He has not done a single town-minded thing this whole entire game and is the epitome of playing under the radar. His posts have been wishy washy in general and I don't like it at all.

Oh hi, BTW! I actually hate subbing into games most of the time, but in this case I think it benefitted me to read the whole thread in one go because I could see tendencies and patterns a bit better. For the record, Melanie is a hugely strong town read for me and I think everyone else. If you're mafia/werewolf you basically deserve the win. IMO we sure don't after the abysmal showing yesterday, but if we pick up our game maybe we can make this all worthwhile. What do y'all say?

Also no, Aiden's failure at HYPO isn't indicative of his alignment in any way whatsoever, lol. If anything it implies he's town over mafia because mafia wouldn't be so careless.

Why am I putting the effort in to refresh this page every 10 minutes if none of you are going to bother replying? Come on people...

Mollie H. wrote:I'm actually really suspicious of Dr. A and Katrina for their lynching yesterday. There was nothing about Dominick's play which screamed anything but town and I think that lynching him was only mafia-minded. However, that's not the main target today. The main target is Lynch Egan G. because I have no doubt in my mind that he is anti-town, and I think there is a strong chance he is werewolf. He has not done a single town-minded thing this whole entire game and is the epitome of playing under the radar. His posts have been wishy washy in general and I don't like it at all.

Oh hi, BTW! I actually hate subbing into games most of the time, but in this case I think it benefitted me to read the whole thread in one go because I could see tendencies and patterns a bit better. For the record, Melanie is a hugely strong town read for me and I think everyone else. If you're mafia/werewolf you basically deserve the win. IMO we sure don't after the abysmal showing yesterday, but if we pick up our game maybe we can make this all worthwhile. What do y'all say?

>my lynching yesterday.

sure I lynched Dominick rather early, but then I changed my lynch once I realized that he was very unlikely to be scum, which i stated. Either way, I posted my change in lynch with a good amount of time before the deadline, and Ralph could have changed their lynch at any given point. He also did have a major tunnel vision that was based off terribad logic which you woulda seen if you really read his reasoning.

I have also stated that I found E gang scummy early on but I'm not pushing the lynch on him because I didn't find it likely that he was WW, which is our priority to find since they are the only ones who can nightkill. So my question is why, other than his general scumminess makes you believe he is more likely to be WW than the damn cc to the dead seer. And then might I also ask why would I change my lynch in the middle of the day like that? We had plurality on the seer so why would I change my vote to the non-seer when I said it is a better move for mafia to eliminate the seer in that situation? And I even stated in my change of lynch post that I had reason to believe he was seer. Plus you don't seem to realize how scummy Dominick was coming off to town and apparently the mafia too. iirc Dr. Yung had a scum read on Dominick too. And its not like we can't trust a mafia's read rn because it could at least help us figure out the WW.

That abysmal showing yesterday was merely cause of a lack of activity as can be attested to by your own subbing in. Honestly if people had been more active, we might have actually lynched the Werewolf -cough- Captain Aiden -cough- Don't push blame off of the person you subbed or the people who were inactive. It was kinda Mollie's (the entity not neccesarily the person who is Mollie rn) fault too. You also can't attest to mafia being careful because some mafia are generally scummy as hell... Look at Kuroyo in Game 15.

Also the point I was making was that Captain Aidan was Werewolf, not mafia. Mafia would be retarded to claim seer when there was only one other claim, as I stated before. And then theres that immediate retract once I pressured Aiden for his inspects, which was scummy as hell. EVERYONE in the history of hypo knows not to retract their claim unless theres a scum inspect, or its Day 3/4 in a 15p game of classic.

If you bothered to read carefully, and take more time to think logically you would see that my point is at least valid, and unless you can provide us some more reasoning as to why E gang is WW, besides his general lurkiness and wishy washiness, I suggest we lynch Aidan.

Also let me just say this... you don't want to start a war with me. I will ban you from the cookie sales list. You will never be able to buy my cookies again. For real though, I can shut a person down real quick. Especially since I have been more helpful in finding scum than the original Mollie who was quiet and fillery.

Mollie H. wrote:Why am I putting the effort in to refresh this page every 10 minutes if none of you are going to bother replying? Come on people...

First off, it takes a while to respond especially with that wall post I just made.

Second off, don't act like we all have no lives besides the anon games. Just because your life is anon doesn't mean that ours is. Some of them may have extenuating circumstances to deal with at the time. Dr. Akihabara stated earlier that he was packing for college. I started college yesterday. There are other people who have school too, and family gatherings, vacations, flights back home, train rides to upstate, work, and other things to worry about than this game which in the long-run doesn't matter much. We only play mafia because it entertains us when we are bored.

Third off, be patient. you are the kind of person who would freak out over a train delay. You would get antsy if a freshman is having a difficult time trying to swipe in or figure his/her way around the school. The person who gets mad when you can't walk up/down the escalators because there are people casually talking in front of you. You push through people in order to get to where you need to as quickly as possible because you can't afford to wait an extra few minutes. You skip the lunch lines. Thats the vibe I get from you. And maybe its a little off-putting that I am reading into your psyche like this, but mafia is very much a psychological game, and I am considering a major in psychology so its kinda like practice. I hope you don't mind.

Now I could go and say that your lack of patience is scummy but it isn't. You may act scummy in the future I don't know. But right now maybe instead of trying to rush through things you can look slowly and calmly at everything in front of you and try to accurately deduce the scum because what you posted earlier seems like you didn't even consider other peoples opinions which means that you didn't even think your own thoughts fully through.

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:I'm actually really suspicious of Dr. A and Katrina for their lynching yesterday. There was nothing about Dominick's play which screamed anything but town and I think that lynching him was only mafia-minded. However, that's not the main target today. The main target is Lynch Egan G. because I have no doubt in my mind that he is anti-town, and I think there is a strong chance he is werewolf. He has not done a single town-minded thing this whole entire game and is the epitome of playing under the radar. His posts have been wishy washy in general and I don't like it at all.

Oh hi, BTW! I actually hate subbing into games most of the time, but in this case I think it benefitted me to read the whole thread in one go because I could see tendencies and patterns a bit better. For the record, Melanie is a hugely strong town read for me and I think everyone else. If you're mafia/werewolf you basically deserve the win. IMO we sure don't after the abysmal showing yesterday, but if we pick up our game maybe we can make this all worthwhile. What do y'all say?

>my lynching yesterday.

sure I lynched Dominick rather early, but then I changed my lynch once I realized that he was very unlikely to be scum, which i stated. Either way, I posted my change in lynch with a good amount of time before the deadline, and Ralph could have changed their lynch at any given point. He also did have a major tunnel vision that was based off terribad logic which you woulda seen if you really read his reasoning.

I have also stated that I found E gang scummy early on but I'm not pushing the lynch on him because I didn't find it likely that he was WW, which is our priority to find since they are the only ones who can nightkill. So my question is why, other than his general scumminess makes you believe he is more likely to be WW than the damn cc to the dead seer. And then might I also ask why would I change my lynch in the middle of the day like that? We had plurality on the seer so why would I change my vote to the non-seer when I said it is a better move for mafia to eliminate the seer in that situation? And I even stated in my change of lynch post that I had reason to believe he was seer. Plus you don't seem to realize how scummy Dominick was coming off to town and apparently the mafia too. iirc Dr. Yung had a scum read on Dominick too. And its not like we can't trust a mafia's read rn because it could at least help us figure out the WW.

That abysmal showing yesterday was merely cause of a lack of activity as can be attested to by your own subbing in. Honestly if people had been more active, we might have actually lynched the Werewolf -cough- Captain Aiden -cough- Don't push blame off of the person you subbed or the people who were inactive. It was kinda Mollie's (the entity not neccesarily the person who is Mollie rn) fault too. You also can't attest to mafia being careful because some mafia are generally scummy as hell... Look at Kuroyo in Game 15.

Also the point I was making was that Captain Aidan was Werewolf, not mafia. Mafia would be retarded to claim seer when there was only one other claim, as I stated before. And then theres that immediate retract once I pressured Aiden for his inspects, which was scummy as hell. EVERYONE in the history of hypo knows not to retract their claim unless theres a scum inspect, or its Day 3/4 in a 15p game of classic.

If you bothered to read carefully, and take more time to think logically you would see that my point is at least valid, and unless you can provide us some more reasoning as to why E gang is WW, besides his general lurkiness and wishy washiness, I suggest we lynch Aidan.

Also let me just say this... you don't want to start a war with me. I will ban you from the cookie sales list. You will never be able to buy my cookies again.  For real though, I can shut a person down real quick. Especially since I have been more helpful in finding scum than the original Mollie who was quiet and fillery.

lol Aidan was predicting a HYPO. That's why he claimed seer, and he would do the same thing no matter what affiliation he is, as such it is non-conclusive in any way and as such is an entirely filler point to make.

This post is off in every way >_>. You literally admitted that you had reason to believe Dominick was seer when you voted for him. Yes, you changed your vote, no I don't care about that right now. What I care about is the fact that you voted for Dominick when you thought he was seer in the first place and didn't provide any solid reasoning at all because there WAS none. You and Dr. A are the last two remaining mafia, but Egan is the werewolf so we should lynch him first.

You are completely twisting Aidan's actions to try to make him scummy and you got complacent because you were the only active player yesterday along with your (probable) buddy. I don't think Dr. A is as scummy as you are, but after all of the BS joking around with the dumb kawaii speak (only stopping when you realised it might escalate into a lynch) you are definitely mafia. Just not werewolf, and we actually know this for sure thanks to Dominick. BTW, notice how Dominick seer'd her? Katrina was the town seer's biggest scum read too!

The abysmal showing yesterday was down to you leading a bloody lynch on the seer, not because of inactivity. I also love how you tried to attack me because my sub was inactive -- those types of farfetch'd and completely out there claims are ones which only mafia think of when trying to antagonise their prosecutors. You've dug yourself a hole here, good luck trying to get out.

And what was with that bitchiness in the last paragraph? Seriously tone it down a bit.

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:Why am I putting the effort in to refresh this page every 10 minutes if none of you are going to bother replying? Come on people...

First off, it takes a while to respond especially with that wall post I just made.

Second off, don't act like we all have no lives besides the anon games. Just because your life is anon doesn't mean that ours is. Some of them may have extenuating circumstances to deal with at the time. Dr. Akihabara stated earlier that he was packing for college. I started college yesterday.  There are other people who have school too, and family gatherings, vacations, flights back home, train rides to upstate, work, and other things to worry about than this game which in the long-run doesn't matter much. We only play mafia because it entertains us when we are bored.

Third off, be patient. you are the kind of person who would freak out over a train delay. You would get antsy if a freshman is having a difficult time trying to swipe in or figure his/her way around the school. The person who gets mad when you can't walk up/down the escalators because there are people casually talking in front of you. You push through people in order to get to where you need to as quickly as possible because you can't afford to wait an extra few minutes. You skip the lunch lines. Thats the vibe I get from you. And maybe its a little off-putting that I am reading into your psyche like this, but mafia is very much a psychological game, and I am considering a major in psychology so its kinda like practice. I hope you don't mind.

Now I could go and say that your lack of patience is scummy but it isn't. You may act scummy in the future I don't know. But right now maybe instead of trying to rush through things you can look slowly and calmly at everything in front of you and try to accurately deduce the scum because what you posted earlier seems like you didn't even consider other peoples opinions which means that you didn't even think your own thoughts fully through.

I would say this is AtE (Appeal to Emotion) but it's not even that, it's just trying to get into my head and even stating that they are trying to get into my head to confuse me even more. Town would have no reason to post anything like this. Also I'm actually an extremely patient person in general, that was merely making people post because I saw a couple users were online and after the poor showing that was Day 2 I want to ensure that doesn't happen again, as does every towny in the game.

What would have been a better psycho-analysis of myself is that I'm a very assertive and confident player. I know my abilities in this game and I spent 5 hours milling through this 14 page thread to create the best reads I can, and I am telling you that Egan is anti-town and the likeliest werewolf in the game based on current information, and Katrina is almost certainly mafia, but obviously not werewolf. Now calm down sweetheart and let the townies do the talking :p.

I mean, if there were actually any other players posting that'd be super nice, but you can't win 'em all??

Also personal attacks like what you just did are like the biggest scum tell ever.

Mollie H. wrote:

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:I'm actually really suspicious of Dr. A and Katrina for their lynching yesterday. There was nothing about Dominick's play which screamed anything but town and I think that lynching him was only mafia-minded. However, that's not the main target today. The main target is Lynch Egan G. because I have no doubt in my mind that he is anti-town, and I think there is a strong chance he is werewolf. He has not done a single town-minded thing this whole entire game and is the epitome of playing under the radar. His posts have been wishy washy in general and I don't like it at all.

Oh hi, BTW! I actually hate subbing into games most of the time, but in this case I think it benefitted me to read the whole thread in one go because I could see tendencies and patterns a bit better. For the record, Melanie is a hugely strong town read for me and I think everyone else. If you're mafia/werewolf you basically deserve the win. IMO we sure don't after the abysmal showing yesterday, but if we pick up our game maybe we can make this all worthwhile. What do y'all say?

>my lynching yesterday.

sure I lynched Dominick rather early, but then I changed my lynch once I realized that he was very unlikely to be scum, which i stated. Either way, I posted my change in lynch with a good amount of time before the deadline, and Ralph could have changed their lynch at any given point. He also did have a major tunnel vision that was based off terribad logic which you woulda seen if you really read his reasoning.

I have also stated that I found E gang scummy early on but I'm not pushing the lynch on him because I didn't find it likely that he was WW, which is our priority to find since they are the only ones who can nightkill. So my question is why, other than his general scumminess makes you believe he is more likely to be WW than the damn cc to the dead seer. And then might I also ask why would I change my lynch in the middle of the day like that? We had plurality on the seer so why would I change my vote to the non-seer when I said it is a better move for mafia to eliminate the seer in that situation? And I even stated in my change of lynch post that I had reason to believe he was seer. Plus you don't seem to realize how scummy Dominick was coming off to town and apparently the mafia too. iirc Dr. Yung had a scum read on Dominick too. And its not like we can't trust a mafia's read rn because it could at least help us figure out the WW.

That abysmal showing yesterday was merely cause of a lack of activity as can be attested to by your own subbing in. Honestly if people had been more active, we might have actually lynched the Werewolf -cough- Captain Aiden -cough- Don't push blame off of the person you subbed or the people who were inactive. It was kinda Mollie's (the entity not neccesarily the person who is Mollie rn) fault too. You also can't attest to mafia being careful because some mafia are generally scummy as hell... Look at Kuroyo in Game 15.

Also the point I was making was that Captain Aidan was Werewolf, not mafia. Mafia would be retarded to claim seer when there was only one other claim, as I stated before. And then theres that immediate retract once I pressured Aiden for his inspects, which was scummy as hell. EVERYONE in the history of hypo knows not to retract their claim unless theres a scum inspect, or its Day 3/4 in a 15p game of classic.

If you bothered to read carefully, and take more time to think logically you would see that my point is at least valid, and unless you can provide us some more reasoning as to why E gang is WW, besides his general lurkiness and wishy washiness, I suggest we lynch Aidan.

Also let me just say this... you don't want to start a war with me. I will ban you from the cookie sales list. You will never be able to buy my cookies again.  For real though, I can shut a person down real quick. Especially since I have been more helpful in finding scum than the original Mollie who was quiet and fillery.

lol Aidan was predicting a HYPO. That's why he claimed seer, and he would do the same thing no matter what affiliation he is, as such it is non-conclusive in any way and as such is an entirely filler point to make.

This post is off in every way >_>. You literally admitted that you had reason to believe Dominick was seer when you voted for him. Yes, you changed your vote, no I don't care about that right now. What I care about is the fact that you voted for Dominick when you thought he was seer in the first place and didn't provide any solid reasoning at all because there WAS none. You and Dr. A are the last two remaining mafia, but Egan is the werewolf so we should lynch him first.

You are completely twisting Aidan's actions to try to make him scummy and you got complacent because you were the only active player yesterday along with your (probable) buddy. I don't think Dr. A is as scummy as you are, but after all of the BS joking around with the dumb kawaii speak (only stopping when you realised it might escalate into a lynch) you are definitely mafia. Just not werewolf, and we actually know this for sure thanks to Dominick. BTW, notice how Dominick seer'd her? Katrina was the town seer's biggest scum read too!

The abysmal showing yesterday was down to you leading a bloody lynch on the seer, not because of inactivity. I also love how you tried to attack me because my sub was inactive -- those types of farfetch'd and completely out there claims are ones which only mafia think of when trying to antagonise their prosecutors. You've dug yourself a hole here, good luck trying to get out.

And what was with that bitchiness in the last paragraph? Seriously tone it down a bit.

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:Why am I putting the effort in to refresh this page every 10 minutes if none of you are going to bother replying? Come on people...

First off, it takes a while to respond especially with that wall post I just made.

Second off, don't act like we all have no lives besides the anon games. Just because your life is anon doesn't mean that ours is. Some of them may have extenuating circumstances to deal with at the time. Dr. Akihabara stated earlier that he was packing for college. I started college yesterday.  There are other people who have school too, and family gatherings, vacations, flights back home, train rides to upstate, work, and other things to worry about than this game which in the long-run doesn't matter much. We only play mafia because it entertains us when we are bored.

Third off, be patient. you are the kind of person who would freak out over a train delay. You would get antsy if a freshman is having a difficult time trying to swipe in or figure his/her way around the school. The person who gets mad when you can't walk up/down the escalators because there are people casually talking in front of you. You push through people in order to get to where you need to as quickly as possible because you can't afford to wait an extra few minutes. You skip the lunch lines. Thats the vibe I get from you. And maybe its a little off-putting that I am reading into your psyche like this, but mafia is very much a psychological game, and I am considering a major in psychology so its kinda like practice. I hope you don't mind.

Now I could go and say that your lack of patience is scummy but it isn't. You may act scummy in the future I don't know. But right now maybe instead of trying to rush through things you can look slowly and calmly at everything in front of you and try to accurately deduce the scum because what you posted earlier seems like you didn't even consider other peoples opinions which means that you didn't even think your own thoughts fully through.

I would say this is AtE (Appeal to Emotion) but it's not even that, it's just trying to get into my head and even stating that they are trying to get into my head to confuse me even more. Town would have no reason to post anything like this. Also I'm actually an extremely patient person in general, that was merely making people post because I saw a couple users were online and after the poor showing that was Day 2 I want to ensure that doesn't happen again, as does every towny in the game.

What would have been a better psycho-analysis of myself is that I'm a very assertive and confident player. I know my abilities in this game and I spent 5 hours milling through this 14 page thread to create the best reads I can, and I am telling you that Egan is anti-town and the likeliest werewolf in the game based on current information, and Katrina is almost certainly mafia, but obviously not werewolf. Now calm down sweetheart and let the townies do the talking :p.

I mean, if there were actually any other players posting that'd be super nice, but you can't win 'em all??

First off: Don't call me sweetheart.

Considering you ended with an attack on us I kinda had to attack you too. I have a life you know, we all do. Also personal attacks are not an indication of scumminess, check Zane vs Numaji for one. That had multiple personal attacks and guess what both players were town. Of course it could vary by the situation but don't make assumptions like that. You are obviously unfamiliar with some peoples aggressive play styles, and trust me i can be aggressive when i want to.

Yes I admitted that I had reason to believe Dominick was seer, AFTER Captain Aidan retracted his claim. When I placed my lynch on Dominick, there was still the possibility that Aidan was seer. Also like i said yesterday, the inspect that he claimed to have done was a dumb inspect because anyone with a brain could see I wasn't the WW. And at this point its confirmed I'm not WW since oh i don't know the damn seer cleared me from that. Saying that I'm scum because I thought Dominick or Captain Aidan was scum since they cc'd each other as seer. There were two seer claims. The seer and the WW fake claim. It was one or the other, and Dominick was scummier at the time. The retract pseudo-cleared Dominick, which meant Aidan was likely scum... but it doesn't explain why he retracted. If he was WW, its practically guaranteed he woulda been lynched, so there'd be no point in retracting. However if he was town, then why didn't the real WW kill him or Dominick? WW would know that one of them is likely seer.

I would also like to point out that I did point out solid reasoning when I lynched him. Maybe it was not perfect but it was valid and wasn't something that could be easily demeaned. Don't say that I didn't have solid reasoning because i did. Its not like I randomly posted "Lynch Dominick" without explaining as to why. I explained it was 50/50 between Aidan and Dominick. I also ul'd Dominick and swapped my lynch to Captain Aidan after aidan retracted, WITH explanation. I even said in that explanation that I didn't trust him because he was scummy, but that unless their was a cc to him I was inclined to believe his claim.

Neither Dominick nor captain aidan should have claimed seer in the first place. We all said that hypo was a retarded idea, so the fact that aidan was trying to start a hypo was just dumb. Dominick was trying to go for a bored townie approach i assume. Claim look like a bored townie and avoid the nightkill. I did not twist his actions. They were scummy in the first place. In fact the one who's twisting things around is you. Also Aidan agreed with what Dr. Yung said about not hypoing yet hypoing anyways... like does that make any sense. So he says hypo is bad, yet predicts a hypo.... that makes total sense.

Dominick doing his seer on me was retarded because I had no reason to bus my WW partner D1 like that, so basing your logic on that is pointless. His biggest scum read? More like his only scumread. That guy tunneled harder than the Fossil Maniac.

You blame what happened yesterday on me leading a lynch? Really?! When only 5 people (me, Dr. A, Ralph, Aidan, and Dominick) out of a total of 10 even showed up and posted. That, my dear, was inactivity at its finest. Dominick is inactive, so he didnt flip the plurality. Ralph saw my post, but neglected it completely. The other 5 didn't even show up at all. Also when I said that I meant the person you subbed really, which I even stated in that post... its confusing since you keep the same name as the person you subbed for. when i refer to you get used to it since you are the new mollie. The OLD you, aka the original Mollie, was inactive and lurking and fillering. Never let a sub interfere with reads.

The other post was me being ticked off at your impatience. Like seriously its annoying when people are like "oh I'm refreshing every second! Hurry up and post!" Like give people time to read the post, time to compose their response, time to even look at the boards. You are not helping this place be more active. That's kinda what you are trying to do, yet you claimed earlier that it isn't inactive in here. Actually to be even more specific you are "want to ensure that doesn't happen again, as does every towny in the game." So what you are saying that what happened yesterday wasn't because of inactivity, yet the way you are trying to ensure what happened yesterday doesn't happen again is by trying to foster activity. Contradiction much? I also love the self psycho-analysis you gave yourself. We tend to find ourselves in the way we think about ourselves. Think about it, when you record your voice it on camera, it sounds different when you play it back than when you said it out loud. Granted it's digitized, but that's the case. We also tend to think of ourselves as sexy beasts until we look at others in comparison. Your source is biased because you are analyzing yourself which means that others can't take what is stated as undeniable truth. Hell it wouldn't even be accepted in a court of law. What kind of defense attorney would use a statement by their defendant that says something along the lines of "I didn't do the crime because that is not something I would do."

Also, even if I was mafia, which I am not, wouldn't my actions help you guys find the other mafia... just saying, since the mafia tend to be linked, very slightly. My reads would help, peoples reads on me, so on so forth. Either way you have no reason to tell me to quiet down... especially considering it contradicts the whole point of you telling us to reply.

Also the "BS dumb kawaii speak" was me fucking around. I haven't stopped either. I have scaled down on it but it hasn't stopped, hell look at that "bitchy" last paragraph. There's some of it in there. And even if I did that because i realized that could be a basis for a lynch, HOW is that scummy at all? Town. Mafia. WW. What do they have in common? For the most part, they don't want to be lynched. Just like in mod.exe, its not scummy to want the gun. Both town and mafia want the gun. So using that as a basis as to why I'm scummy is also invalid.

So in the end you have stated many points that are invalid, and have also contradicted yourself multiple times. And how about you let Captain Aidan defend himself.

I got online today and I was ready to find the werewolf and get him/her lynched and then... I died. I truly wish I were still alive, because this conversation is just amazing xD even though I'm dead, I'm still laughing so hard at this game. Good luck.

Melanie B. wrote:Alright, so we lynched the seer. This confirms Katrina as not WW. She could obviously still be mafia, but that's for another day. Captain Aiden seems fairly suspicious for backing out on his seer claim like that, but he might have just failed horribly at hypo. Dr. Akihabara is fairly scummy for being the only lynch on Domenick, although he was admittedly pretty scummy himself.

Im starting to understand the different mindsets people have in anon games and I'm suspecting Ralph to be scum just based on how he's been acting. He was inactive early and was very apologetic, he didn't believe Domenick's seer claim initially, which would explain why a seer claim wasn't targetted night one. He also seems to agree with what everyone else is saying and not adding many new points himself.

If I were to lynch right now it would be either Ralph or Aiden, but I'd like to see some discussion on who everyone else suspects before finalizing anything. I'd especially like to see some activity from inactives such as Egan, Ryou, and Mollie's new sub.

said by the lady who gave us zilch day 2. thanks again for being such a great contrubtor to the town's effort yesterday and appearing when i call you out at end of day 2.

honestly, if you guys want to lynch me, do it. im playing terribly and clearly clouding judgement here. my readslist were my thoughts alone, and i can't really help thr fact that t I've not really been active enough to bring up really new things before you guys do. on that front, i have school, so i can't help that much. can say I'm vanilla townie at this point, and I'll definitely be sure to try and do some deeper analysis in the future. Sorry for being a shit and reallly vague guy this time around.

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:I'm actually really suspicious of Dr. A and Katrina for their lynching yesterday. There was nothing about Dominick's play which screamed anything but town and I think that lynching him was only mafia-minded. However, that's not the main target today. The main target is Lynch Egan G. because I have no doubt in my mind that he is anti-town, and I think there is a strong chance he is werewolf. He has not done a single town-minded thing this whole entire game and is the epitome of playing under the radar. His posts have been wishy washy in general and I don't like it at all.

Oh hi, BTW! I actually hate subbing into games most of the time, but in this case I think it benefitted me to read the whole thread in one go because I could see tendencies and patterns a bit better. For the record, Melanie is a hugely strong town read for me and I think everyone else. If you're mafia/werewolf you basically deserve the win. IMO we sure don't after the abysmal showing yesterday, but if we pick up our game maybe we can make this all worthwhile. What do y'all say?

>my lynching yesterday.

sure I lynched Dominick rather early, but then I changed my lynch once I realized that he was very unlikely to be scum, which i stated. Either way, I posted my change in lynch with a good amount of time before the deadline, and Ralph could have changed their lynch at any given point. He also did have a major tunnel vision that was based off terribad logic which you woulda seen if you really read his reasoning.

I have also stated that I found E gang scummy early on but I'm not pushing the lynch on him because I didn't find it likely that he was WW, which is our priority to find since they are the only ones who can nightkill. So my question is why, other than his general scumminess makes you believe he is more likely to be WW than the damn cc to the dead seer. And then might I also ask why would I change my lynch in the middle of the day like that? We had plurality on the seer so why would I change my vote to the non-seer when I said it is a better move for mafia to eliminate the seer in that situation? And I even stated in my change of lynch post that I had reason to believe he was seer. Plus you don't seem to realize how scummy Dominick was coming off to town and apparently the mafia too. iirc Dr. Yung had a scum read on Dominick too. And its not like we can't trust a mafia's read rn because it could at least help us figure out the WW.

That abysmal showing yesterday was merely cause of a lack of activity as can be attested to by your own subbing in. Honestly if people had been more active, we might have actually lynched the Werewolf -cough- Captain Aiden -cough- Don't push blame off of the person you subbed or the people who were inactive. It was kinda Mollie's (the entity not neccesarily the person who is Mollie rn) fault too. You also can't attest to mafia being careful because some mafia are generally scummy as hell... Look at Kuroyo in Game 15.

Also the point I was making was that Captain Aidan was Werewolf, not mafia. Mafia would be retarded to claim seer when there was only one other claim, as I stated before. And then theres that immediate retract once I pressured Aiden for his inspects, which was scummy as hell. EVERYONE in the history of hypo knows not to retract their claim unless theres a scum inspect, or its Day 3/4 in a 15p game of classic.

If you bothered to read carefully, and take more time to think logically you would see that my point is at least valid, and unless you can provide us some more reasoning as to why E gang is WW, besides his general lurkiness and wishy washiness, I suggest we lynch Aidan.

Also let me just say this... you don't want to start a war with me. I will ban you from the cookie sales list. You will never be able to buy my cookies again. For real though, I can shut a person down real quick. Especially since I have been more helpful in finding scum than the original Mollie who was quiet and fillery.

katrina, when you said about my lynch on here, i didn't even lynch once this game so far, so i don't see where this logic is coming from. also there's the fact I was apparently tunnelvisioning in that post? load of bullshit seeing as i haven't been focusing on one guy so far too much. in my reads list, i don't see one piece of evidence in it that shows me tunnelling. would love to see what you saw me doing that was tunnelling, seeing as I can't. You may have a really misconstrued definition of it, but I knoe i haven't been doing so.

will check on this more frequently I guess, feel free to ask me questions.

Katrina, it's nice that you found the time to write long posts like that, but please try not to fill them with fluff. The only thing you said in that post which isn't fluff, once again, is that Aidan must be werewolf because he "cc'd" Dominick. He did not. It was a failed HYPO. This is incredibly obvious and evident from the fact that he didn't go through with it and claim a result; a werewolf would have done because it could be seen as a backpedal by naive players who refuse to look at the big picture, like you. Now stop defending Egan and let us lynch him, please and thank y

That's thank you, my laptop lagged when I hit send lol

Also FTR I'm leaning town on Ralph even though usually defeatism like that is totally scummy.

Ralph, I was referring to Dominick's tunnel on me Day 1. Although I can see how you may have confused it as me referring to you. Also I meant you could have changed the lynch because you posted after I did thus you are the only person that can be confirmed to have had the opportunity to read my post before the deadline. I legit stated that I thought Dominick was town and that we should have lynch Captain Aidan through valid points. You decided not to lynch Aidan letting plurality hit Dominick, costing us our seer.

Mollie H. wrote:Katrina, it's nice that you found the time to write long posts like that, but please try not to fill them with fluff. The only thing you said in that post which isn't fluff, once again, is that Aidan must be werewolf because he "cc'd" Dominick. He did not. It was a failed HYPO. This is incredibly obvious and evident from the fact that he didn't go through with it and claim a result; a werewolf would have done because it could be seen as a backpedal by naive players who refuse to look at the big picture, like you. Now stop defending Egan and let us lynch him, please and thank y

Defending E Gang? Please even I have acknowledged that E gang is scummy. But scumminess alone does not determine who the werewolf is. There are other factors and you know it. So why are you saying that he is definitely werewolf. He could be mafia for all we know, and if he is mafia then there is no point in lynching him right now. What makes E Gang a better lynch target than the other inactives like Ryou for example who was also deemed as scummy by some of us.

"fluff" Really? You want to know what fluff is? Lolicon shoutacon. All my references to girl scout cookies. thats fluff. There was only one fluff statement and that was in the first reply the one about girl scout cookies.

found the time? Its a Friday, there's no scool for me Friday nights nor is there school today. Most of my non-fluff posts have been in depth like that.

Maybe he intended to make us think that he was trying to hypo but retractd when there was only one other claim because he knew who the seer was and could easily night kill him, and he didnt want to look so scummy when the seer died. Plus the seer didnt out him as WW. Plus if he was going to hypo, which is done to protect the cop, why would he retract when the WW would then be left with 1 seer claim to target.

Katrina K. wrote:Ralph, I was referring to Dominick's tunnel on me Day 1. Although I can see how you may have confused it as me referring to you. Also I meant you could have changed the lynch because you posted after I did thus you are the only person that can be confirmed to have had the opportunity to read my post before the deadline. I legit stated that I thought Dominick was town and that we should have lynch Captain Aidan through valid points. You decided not to lynch Aidan letting plurality hit Dominick, costing us our seer.

Ahh I see. And understandably, there were like 3 hours til deadline or so from my post. Both Aiden and Dom had been fairly vague so I hadn't really felt my decsion on a lynch was conclusive, in terms of my reads at that point and that I thought that one of our other players could place this lynch, someone who actually had an idea on the best lynch. I did read your evidence btw, but I still felt they were both rather odd and either would've been a good lynch target.

Since I finally have internet, I can explain why I've been MIA. Due to packing for college and getting ready and moving, I've been unable to do anything except from phone, which is extremely slow and burns my hand. I forgot that I had lynched Dominick and couldn't UL and I feel terrible since it was my lynch that killed him. x.x

I'll be a bit AWOL until Thursday or so, then I'll be back and hopefully, I'll be able to contribute.

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:Katrina, it's nice that you found the time to write long posts like that, but please try not to fill them with fluff. The only thing you said in that post which isn't fluff, once again, is that Aidan must be werewolf because he "cc'd" Dominick. He did not. It was a failed HYPO. This is incredibly obvious and evident from the fact that he didn't go through with it and claim a result; a werewolf would have done because it could be seen as a backpedal by naive players who refuse to look at the big picture, like you. Now stop defending Egan and let us lynch him, please and thank y

Defending E Gang? Please even I have acknowledged that E gang is scummy. But scumminess alone does not determine who the werewolf is. There are other factors and you know it. So why are you saying that he is definitely werewolf. He could be mafia for all we know, and if he is mafia then there is no point in lynching him right now. What makes E Gang a better lynch target than the other inactives like Ryou for example who was also deemed as scummy by some of us.

"fluff" Really? You want to know what fluff is? Lolicon shoutacon. All my references to girl scout cookies. thats fluff. There was only one fluff statement and that was in the first reply the one about girl scout cookies.

found the time? Its a Friday, there's no scool for me Friday nights nor is there school today. Most of my non-fluff posts have been in depth like that.

Maybe he intended to make us think that he was trying to hypo but retractd when there was only one other claim because he knew who the seer was and could easily night kill him, and he didnt want to look so scummy when the seer died. Plus the seer didnt out him as WW. Plus if he was going to hypo, which is done to protect the cop, why would he retract when the WW would then be left with 1 seer claim to target.

Yes, defending Egan. If you think he is scummy and are town you would do the only sensible thing and vote for him, since mafia will be a good lynch if not optimal and clearly no one agrees with you with Aidan because what he did has nothing to do with what alignment he is. Why the hell do you want to lynch him so bad? You're coming up with all kinds of random theories about how he might possibly be scum (like he was trying to make us think he was trying to HYPO) as opposed to exercising occam's razor and just saying maybe he really did fail to HYPO. It makes total sense that he would lol.

Also fluff is anything which isn't contribution. So yeah, your whole last post was either fluff or completely flawed lol.

sorry i moved back to college this week so i was inactive. I'll try to be more active!

Mollie H. wrote:

Katrina K. wrote:

Mollie H. wrote:Katrina, it's nice that you found the time to write long posts like that, but please try not to fill them with fluff. The only thing you said in that post which isn't fluff, once again, is that Aidan must be werewolf because he "cc'd" Dominick. He did not. It was a failed HYPO. This is incredibly obvious and evident from the fact that he didn't go through with it and claim a result; a werewolf would have done because it could be seen as a backpedal by naive players who refuse to look at the big picture, like you. Now stop defending Egan and let us lynch him, please and thank y

Defending E Gang? Please even I have acknowledged that E gang is scummy. But scumminess alone does not determine who the werewolf is. There are other factors and you know it. So why are you saying that he is definitely werewolf. He could be mafia for all we know, and if he is mafia then there is no point in lynching him right now. What makes E Gang a better lynch target than the other inactives like Ryou for example who was also deemed as scummy by some of us.

"fluff" Really? You want to know what fluff is? Lolicon shoutacon. All my references to girl scout cookies. thats fluff. There was only one fluff statement and that was in the first reply the one about girl scout cookies.

found the time? Its a Friday, there's no scool for me Friday nights nor is there school today. Most of my non-fluff posts have been in depth like that.

Maybe he intended to make us think that he was trying to hypo but retractd when there was only one other claim because he knew who the seer was and could easily night kill him, and he didnt want to look so scummy when the seer died. Plus the seer didnt out him as WW. Plus if he was going to hypo, which is done to protect the cop, why would he retract when the WW would then be left with 1 seer claim to target.

Yes, defending Egan. If you think he is scummy and are town you would do the only sensible thing and vote for him, since mafia will be a good lynch if not optimal and clearly no one agrees with you with Aidan because what he did has nothing to do with what alignment he is. Why the hell do you want to lynch him so bad? You're coming up with all kinds of random theories about how he might possibly be scum (like he was trying to make us think he was trying to HYPO) as opposed to exercising occam's razor and just saying maybe he really did fail to HYPO. It makes total sense that he would lol.

Also fluff is anything which isn't contribution. So yeah, your whole last post was either fluff or completely flawed lol.

How is that the only sensible thing? It isn't sensible in this theme to lynch someone who is scummy but isn't likely to be werewolf. You have not provided a sound argument as to why E gang is Werewolf. But you would know this, if you read the theme's description. WW's are the only ones that can nightkill. That is why they are the optimal lynch. Sure I'll give you that it's good to lynch the mafia, but right now we kinda need to focus on finding the WW, because that would reduce the chances of us losing a townie.

I don't see how "clear" it is that "no one" agrees with me. Half of town is inactive and hasn't said anything since Day 1. If anyone disagreed with me, they should have voiced their concerns, but no one has so therefore it is unclear as to whether they agree with me or not. And just you disagreeing doesn't constitute everyone disagreeing with me. You are not everyone. So please if anyone disagrees with my reasoning for Captain Aidan being WW, (besides Mollie) voice your concerns.

I'm sorry if my "random theories" don't make sense. Im just explaining that if he was a townie doing hypo, the Werewolf would have killed either him or Dominick Night 1. The point you brought up, as valid as it may have been, about how Aidan would have only retracted like that if he was town, however is contradicted by the night 1 kill.

I have a gut read that Aidan is WW. That's why I want to lynch him.

If I'm "defending" E gang, you are overtly and staunchly defending Captain Aidan. I said we could push off an Aidan lynch.

And my last post was definitely not fluff. I am contributing by bringing up new ideas. I am contributing by giving my thoughts a basis that is sound and logical. I am contributing by explaining my lynches. Just because I am not doing what you want me to do doesn't mean I am not contributing. In fact, I am one of the biggest contributors that is still alive.

OK so i dindt see Ralph's post, I looked at the most recent post at the time and it was Mollie's post that I replied to. Either way, that's two people that don't agree. There are 7 other players in the game, not including myself. So it is still unclear as to whether or not everyone disagrees with my thinking.

Votecount 3.1
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Captain Aiden(1)- Katrina K.
Egan G.(1)- Mollie H.
Katrina K.(0)-
Dr. Akihabara(0)-
Melanie B.(0)-
Ralph I.(0)-
Ryou N.(0)-
Mollie H.(0)-
Not Voting(6)- Melanie B., Ralph I., Ryou N., Egan G., Captain Aiden, Dr. Akihabara
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There are 8 alive so it takes 5 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Tuesday the 1st at 9pm EDT.
If the deadline was now, Captain Aiden would be lynched.

Alright, ngl I said I was going to "reread" Day 1, but I didn't expect to be so busy. Sorry I can't be on more. From my perspective, I thought hypo was a fine idea (btw I make all my posts at 2AM so never the best plays). So I claimed Seer to "initiate" hypo. It was a really bad play. Mollie is right, it was a failed hypo attempt.