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GG Mafia.

If I wasn't sick I probably would put a bit more pressure on Makino but to be honest I highly doubt it will change the outcome of this game considering Trinity wasn't agreeing with me.

Hey, at least I wasn't way off..

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Aj, can we get an extension? I'm sick atm and others aren't really that active either.

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Makino C. wrote:I feel the best way to decide on who to lynch, is to vote it out first. Thats why I'd request everyone to say who they personally feel the mafia is (or if they have a certain scum team in mind) and justify it.
If we keep lurking then we'll get no where. So thats why I want everyone to post as much as possible in these last two days. Remember, we can't mislynch this time, its lylo.

I agree with this and I will definitely post what I think in a bit.

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I think the best probable scum team is Makino + Trinity. I will look at old posts and try to find evidence between the two.

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Well deadline is approaching and we have no clues who is scum yet.. any ideas on who we should lynch?

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Makino C. wrote:It was what I bolded on the really long post I made umm here:
2) why can't you randomly butt in? This is lylo and if you have an idea even though it's not related you should just say it, weren't your arguments with sukisoh yesterday considered 'butt in' to since there were also arguments between rochelle and butler?

Ok, so this post was a reply to when you said 'I don't want to butt-in'.

In this case, I assumed 'butt-in' means to start a new topic that town isn't discussing at that current time. Therefore, I said that since there was a discussion between rochelle and butler yesterday, the discussion between you and sukisoh would also be considered 'butt-in' since it wasn't what town was talking about at that moment. Hope that clears it up for you.

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Makino C. wrote:No but seriously. What did you mean? lol

I am actually also confused what sentence of mine you are referring to. Perhaps, you could bold it?

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Makino C. wrote:lol I think I misunderstood what you said and said something that made made you misunderstand me only because I didn't understand what you said in the first place .-.

Well, I think that's a good way to sum up our discussions.

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Makino C. wrote:Oh, now that I read it again, I think I understood it.
And no, the argument between me and sukisoh was not a 'butt in'. As it was between the me and him. I wouldn't but into what Butler and Rochelle were arguing about if I didn't have anything to say about it .-.
Besides, if you see it that way, what me and you and doing rn is also a 'butt in'

I think we need a definition of butt-in here. Also, I never said I disagreed with butting in. Weren't you the one that said you don't want to 'butt-in', or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to convey here?

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Makino C. wrote:
Fergus K. wrote:
Makino C. wrote:
Fergus K. wrote:Personally, I think Makino is the scummiest right now mainly because the lacked of reaction after the death of Sukisoh. Those two had quite a bit of argument in the past, you would think Makino would say something rather than quickly moving on to questioning Butler. If his activity drops, it could mean that he is trying to lurk, so town "ignores" him during lylo and we lynch the wrong person.

I was never lurking ffs. When Butler and Rochelle were having an argument I can't randomly butt in. Yes, me and sukisoh were arguing but how does that change anything? We've had an argument with everyone we've lynched so far, right? Besides, I find it odd that you only brought this up after Trinity suggested we look into you and Rochelle more. Perhaps trying to divert the topic to me?

This post came out to me as heavily defensive and I will point out a few things about this post
1) i never said you were lurking hence the word "if" which suggests a possible scenario
2) why can't you randomly butt in? This is lylo and if you have an idea even though it's not related you should just say it, weren't your arguments with sukisoh yesterday considered 'butt in' to since there were also arguments between rochelle and butler?
3) i am not saying that the argument makes you scummy, it is the lack of reaction after sukisoh flips town. It is like you already know he will flip town and therefore did not care much so you moved on to questioning butler.
4) town never applied pressure onto me so I find no reason you would say that. Just because one post says that i maybe scum will not stop me from pressuring someone, as i said in 2, this is lylo so we should just contribute as much as possible. Now, if town was lynching me and applying pressure on me and i randomly stated someone i have not read as scum before, that can be seen as scummy.
5) what if makino + trinity is a scum team?

Okay so I didn't quite understand what you mean in the part that I bolded. But:
a)After sukisoh was lynched, what did you expect me to do? Say "Whoops, RIP Sukisoh" and weep about it? I understand that I mislynched but saying something about it would only make me look scummy and distract town from the real mafia. Besides, plurality applies meaning someone would have been lynched anyway. That someone could have been you or it could have been me. The only reason I lynched sukisoh was because he was the scummiest out of the others for the OMGUS lynch. There is really no way I could have reacted.
b) Right, but it has been two days since sukisoh was lynched. I personally find it scummy that you only mentioned the fact that I could be mafia after what Trinity said. I understand that no one was pressuring you but if we did and you said that, it would have been a dead giveaway. Which is probably why you are trying to change the topic before we think deeper into what Trinity said.
c) Calling me and Trinity a scum team just proves my previous point. If me and trinity were mafia, I think we would know better than to support each other's points. Once again, did it only occur to you that me and trinity could be a scum team after what she suggested?

a) Nothing much to say about that. Your answers are true and neutral.
b) Ok I don't really agree with this one, I came online after Trinity made her post so what ever thoughts I might have before then will be considered "diverting away attention" since I posted after, what do you expect me to do?
c) What is wrong with scum supporting each other? If we take a look back and we say things like "oh these two have supported each other in the past so I doubt they are a scum team" no one would be possible scum because we all support each other, in one post or another.
d) I don't care what you say about me posting after Trinity. If town wanna suspect me, go ahead. Nothing is stopping you. I am here to think and contribute. Nothing will stop me from doing that either.

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Makino C. wrote:
Fergus K. wrote:Personally, I think Makino is the scummiest right now mainly because the lacked of reaction after the death of Sukisoh. Those two had quite a bit of argument in the past, you would think Makino would say something rather than quickly moving on to questioning Butler. If his activity drops, it could mean that he is trying to lurk, so town "ignores" him during lylo and we lynch the wrong person.

I was never lurking ffs. When Butler and Rochelle were having an argument I can't randomly butt in. Yes, me and sukisoh were arguing but how does that change anything? We've had an argument with everyone we've lynched so far, right? Besides, I find it odd that you only brought this up after Trinity suggested we look into you and Rochelle more. Perhaps trying to divert the topic to me?

This post came out to me as heavily defensive and I will point out a few things about this post
1) i never said you were lurking hence the word "if" which suggests a possible scenario
2) why can't you randomly butt in? This is lylo and if you have an idea even though it's not related you should just say it, weren't your arguments with sukisoh yesterday considered 'butt in' to since there were also arguments between rochelle and butler?
3) i am not saying that the argument makes you scummy, it is the lack of reaction after sukisoh flips town. It is like you already know he will flip town and therefore did not care much so you moved on to questioning butler.
4) town never applied pressure onto me so I find no reason you would say that. Just because one post says that i maybe scum will not stop me from pressuring someone, as i said in 2, this is lylo so we should just contribute as much as possible. Now, if town was lynching me and applying pressure on me and i randomly stated someone i have not read as scum before, that can be seen as scummy.
5) what if makino + trinity is a scum team?

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Personally, I think Makino is the scummiest right now mainly because the lacked of reaction after the death of Sukisoh. Those two had quite a bit of argument in the past, you would think Makino would say something rather than quickly moving on to questioning Butler. If his activity drops, it could mean that he is trying to lurk, so town "ignores" him during lylo and we lynch the wrong person.

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Gonna go back and read from the beginning since I wasn't here

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Also @Rochelle why do you have to make your status hidden?

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Rochelle R. wrote:lynch fergus
so it's almost the deadline and I'm pretty sure that Fergus and Butler are hanging around to quicklynch me and watch me die.

This implies that we are a scum team, but remember that I have read you as town. To be honest, the more you posts the more scummy you seem to me and even you and Trinity have said that if you were to be your scum partner, you wouldn't protect Rochelle so I might have to change my opinions on Rochelle.

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Rochelle R. wrote:Fergus:
I had a whole deate with butler about the sub thing in which I made it clear that this alone doesn't prove anything, and that I only felt that it was relevant.

An example of you being illogical is when you townread me (ironically). I made a post about why I thought it was illogical.

The only reason I read you as town is because no one was supporting you, which logically, means that you're not in any scum team (if there isn't any sort of complicated bussing of course). You didn't necessary prove to me that you are less scummier, and still now, you are the scummiest to me but the reason I read you as town is mainly influenced by what other thinks about you.

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If you think that I am the least logical, compared to other who have been talking the whole game, it means that one of my post (or more) seems illogical to you, so what I want you to show me and I'll elaborate.

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Rochelle R. wrote:
Rochelle R. wrote:
Fergus K. wrote:Sorry for my lack of activity despite just being subbed. I have quite a few things to do in school today. You can expect more posts from me tomorrow.

So this trips two alarms. One is the fact that he is making an excuse when he had time to come on, and probably ought to have had time to post a few hasty observations. The second is the fact that he is the third sub, which from past experience indicates scum.

I said it trips alarms. I never siad you were scum because of it, and I never said you were scummy for just that reason.

"which from past experience indicates scum"

If you were just making an observation, you wouldn't include that. That statement implies that those who matches with what you describe is scum.

Also can you point out something illogical about me?

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Rochelle R. wrote:Okay we have to lynch today. To be honest, I don't know whom to lynch. We could lynch Fergus, who has been the least logical imo. Or we could lynch Butler, who seems to have slightly scummy traits. Or we could lynch Makino, who has been scrutinized lately.

Or we could lynch me.

So, what'll it be?

Ok, posts like this confused me frustrates me. I don't like how you use the word "least logical" when I have been attempting to use scum hunting techniques.

Weren't you the one that brought up points like "Oh he is subbed a lot so probably scum" and not elaborating or explaining what you want to achieve?

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Sukisoh S. wrote:Read list redux, as requested from our dear Butler:

Butler:
Sukisoh S. wrote:I have 2 lynch counts on me. Can't exactly do anything direct to it, so here is me trying to convince you guys. If you look back on day 1's lynch and day 3's lynch, you will see 2 things in common. The people who lynched Cassandra, are: Butler, Makino, Gizelle. The people who lynched Gizelle, are: Trinity M., Makino C., Rochelle R., Butler P., Gizelle V. (And me since I wanted to lynch Gizelle). The two people in common are Butler and Makino. Call this OMGUS, but I currently believe Butler is scum.

Mickey has placed a lynch on Gizelle on Day 2, but then didn't join the bandwagon on Gizelle on day 3. I can't remember if she had any change of arguments on why not to lynch Gizelle though, so it might not mean much.

Before you go saying how I didn't talk about day 2, I did in my posts afterwards. This was the reason why I lynched you, and thought you were scum. So, as I said before, still scummy in my eyes, but I have another suspect.

Rochelle:
Rochelle has a high chance of bussing Kaito (who was active but inactive) and is mildly uncooperative in giving out evidence for her actions (meaning she is vague). She recently hasn't done too many scummy actions (which does not mean we can ignore her past actions) but doesn't have a read on anyone; even those who she thinks if more scummy than the other. So, as I said before, still scummy in my eyes, but I have another suspect.

Trinity:
Trinity, despite having little activity (which makes it slightly harder to get a read), is town-read by me as her posts are consistent and logical, and that she doesn't seem to have too much scummy activity.

Fergus:
I suggested that he was town as he views possibilities from different angles (as shown when he suggested that Rochelle isn't scum). However, he has mostly focused on Rochelle (look at his past posts), and could potentially be overfocused on her. Still town in my opinion, but if Rochelle flips town, I'd say Fergus is a good scum suspect.

I already stop focusing on her after giving my statement that she is town.

Makino:
I do not want to go back onto why I think Makino is scum, but its basically based on an earlier theory of mine and (partially) my mistake of misreading the deadline.

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Also, I will post my read list tomorrow before deadline, I don't have much time today (as always).

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Rochelle R. wrote:To be honest, I saw Makino's post the day it was posted, but wanted to wait for someone else to post a read list first because my reads aren't very solid right now. Meh, I guess I'll try now.

Susikoh and Makino are in the same boat for me right now. ~~Their pictures are exactly the same.~~ They both post somewhat frequently, seem to have good logic, and post short posts. They also seem to be rather aggressive in my eyes. From all of that, I have trouble putting a read on them. They could be a scumteam together.

Butler posts relatively frequently and posts long posts. His logic seems somewhat off, and he seems to take one point and scumread someone for it (eg. when he scumread me for just bringing up that fergus had been subbed multiple times). Again, I have a hard time figuring out what all of that means.

Rochelle has been the target of the town since Gizelle died. She tore down logic that defended her one time and she talks about herself in the third person, like wtf.

Trinity has posted relatively infrequently, and seems relatively aggressive. She has been really anti-gizelle and anti-makino all game. Again, I have trouble reading from that.

Fergus has been posting relatively infrequently as well. His logic is a bit skewed in my opinion and he tends to post short posts. I immediately have a scummy bias toward him for these things, but IDK.

So I basically don't have a read on anyone.

I really disagree with this read list because the reasons aren't well elaborated. Also, why did you do a read on yourself? Having no read on anyone is ok I guess... but I think this far in the game, you would have someone less scummier than others?

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Rochelle R. wrote:
Fergus K. wrote:I know this is rather weird but I am proposing that

Rochelle is NOT Mafia.

We have all said our thoughts on Rochelle and her possibility of bussing Kaito. Everyone have said that she definitely has potential to be mafia. Since there are two scum left, someone should have protected Rochelle a bit if she was mafia, and that is the main reason why I was asking people for opinions on Rochelle. However, the results turned out negative so unless there are some kind of complicated bussing going on here (which I doubt, because I don't think mafia wants to be lynch two days in a row), we can conclude that Rochelle is NOT scum.

What does everyone think about this?

Idk if I were my partner I wouldn't defend me.

>_> (No reaction)

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How on earth did Rochelle just posted but I didn't see her on the online list ..

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I know this is rather weird but I am proposing that

Rochelle is NOT Mafia.

We have all said our thoughts on Rochelle and her possibility of bussing Kaito. Everyone have said that she definitely has potential to be mafia. Since there are two scum left, someone should have protected Rochelle a bit if she was mafia, and that is the main reason why I was asking people for opinions on Rochelle. However, the results turned out negative so unless there are some kind of complicated bussing going on here (which I doubt, because I don't think mafia wants to be lynch two days in a row), we can conclude that Rochelle is NOT scum.

What does everyone think about this?