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gg ladies, i got like 3 points in guessing i think

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Andreas B. wrote:Das war kalr zum Ende! Es freue minch nicht zu sehen. Auch, ich hab mich nicht gesparte, weil ich es was ihr wollen glaube, weil niemand es angealten hat.

((That was obvious at the end. That was unpleasant to watch. Also, I didn't try to save myself, because I figured everyone wanted it, because nobody else stopped it.

Please show me the points where it was obvious Andreas, it's not really like town could do shit anyway. There was only like 2-3 of us active on the last few days. Although i do admit i perhaps did miss some things, scum played really well and hid their tracks. My major error was even considering that bussing with rochelle tbh. The kaito lynch was ok in retrospect but yeah, was just thinking about it sincw some of her moves seemed off to me.

But yeah, hope to see the guesses, and i hope no one found me out :^)

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Mickey L. wrote:I got drookez right.

I got lazy when i guessed so everyone who i didn't have a clue on is drookez. At least I'm getting a very possible point

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Unlucky there. I mainly blame the fact we had like 0 townies there on the last days (also my lack of activity). I really don't know where the fuck rochelle went to and a few others, but i guess Christmas commitments happened for some of us :/ Anyway, well played makino and butler, didn't expect makino one bit there and probably wouldn't have if we were going forward. Now onto the guesses, got a vague idea about a few of you guys :p

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Butler P. wrote:

Trinity M. wrote:

Butler P. wrote:I believe I have made my stance on Rochelle clear. I am currently leaning towards her.

Butler, what are your thoughts on fergus atm? I'm personally leaning on him, just curious if you had a view about it.

Argh...I mean, it did seem desperate when he said that Makino was the scummiest person in the town for the entire thing about not addressing a townies death. I'm not sure if he still believes that, but he did say say that he thought you and Makino were a scum team. I can't formulate a full opinion on him until he posts his reasoning why he thinks Trinity + Makino is the team, which based on his last post doesn't seem likely to happen in the next 5 hours.

Welp i guess so, thank you for your input. Good luck everyone, got a strong suspicion on Rochelle and fergus but I'm not gonna lynch, i wouldn't imagine any major amounts of change and i don't want scum to jump and 'quickhammer' so that town is lynched. I'm fine with Rochelle or Fergus to be honest, they are my current ideal scum team, haven't really acknowledged each other too much, had some iffy statements individually and are both really odd in my eyes. Anyway, hoping for the best.

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Butler P. wrote:I believe I have made my stance on Rochelle clear. I am currently leaning towards her.

Butler, what are your thoughts on fergus atm? I'm personally leaning on him, just curious if you had a view about it.

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Fergus K. wrote:I think the best probable scum team is Makino + Trinity. I will look at old posts and try to find evidence between the two.

You target makino, i comment on it, you shift the attention onto me and makino. Hmm, how normal and townie!

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Butler P. wrote:Alright, let's not flip the panic switch yet, shall we? We still have approximately 57 hours left until the deadline. It's not as if we must come to a decision right now. However, it would probably be best to start moving in that direction in the last two days. If anyone expects not to be online at the deadline, because of timezones or otherwise, they must plan accordingly and get their lynch out. Every vote counts.

Mr. Fergus suddenly switching attention to Mr. Makino was...interesting. I was rather surprised that something like not addressing that a townie just died was seen as something that made him the scummiest person in the town in Fergus's eyes. It could have been an attempt to divert attention onto Makino, but obviously that isn't certain.

Also, anyone notice that Trinity has been rather inactive/lurky the past two days? We cannot let her fade into the back of our minds.

My apologies, school has just been finishing and i was really busy with some things. Will be much more active from now on, seeing as i have some freetime :p i see where you guys are coming from about fergus, that could be a possibility.

Also, I think we're moving in a good direction at the moment. I feel that this is the right course of action and that we will most likely get scum. It's a shame it'll be lylo again tomorrow again but welp, what can we do.

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Welp unlucky guys. Sad to see another townie go. Personally, i think we should be looking at people such as rochelle and fergus. They seem to me as the most striking people in town at the moment. Will look back tonight, but will give a bit of input right now.

Rochelle has been making some realy odd choices, and pretty much 50% of the town lynches were by her. Then again, the whole thing from yesterday with the kaito lynch was a bit off compared to the town lynches, but I'm not sure. This game is really annoying me, i don't know for certain at all who scum is. I'm gonna look back at everyone's post logs and have a wee read. We'll see if there is anything about.

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Rochelle - really unsure atm, I mean, that kaito lynch was hardly any form of scumhunting, and it was a bit odd to go forward with that lynch without many of our agreements. Really unsure with rochelle, she hss surprised me during the entire game.neutral

Moi - scummiest person in the game imo

Makino - leaning town on you. You have had some good contributions and i think they have been aiding us a lot. Although at the start there was a bit of contention etc with you and people were jumping all over you, i have felt that you're a townie, and have helped us a bit. leaning town

Butler - ugh I'm unsure. Unlike what the others are saying about you being super aggressive, and that being scummy, i personally think that has helped us a lot. A bit of aggression can help the game flow a bit and you have helped us to gain some good thoughts and evidence by that.town imo, 60/50 perhaps

Sukisoh - one of the scummy people in the town i think. Some of his posts are questionable and aren't that contributive imo. Has been hindering us a tiny bit, but he has been aiding us as well. Some of his content has been helpful to me personally to see somethings that i hadn't identified yet. neutral, but leaning to the scummier side

Fergus - i don't know, i need to look at him more, but I'll do that later on, in a rush. He has had some good content from what i remember. neutral

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Rochelle R. wrote:To be honest, I saw Makino's post the day it was posted, but wanted to wait for someone else to post a read list first because my reads aren't very solid right now. Meh, I guess I'll try now.

Susikoh and Makino are in the same boat for me right now. Their pictures are exactly the same. They both post somewhat frequently, seem to have good logic, and post short posts. They also seem to be rather aggressive in my eyes. From all of that, I have trouble putting a read on them. They could be a scumteam together.

Butler posts relatively frequently and posts long posts. His logic seems somewhat off, and he seems to take one point and scumread someone for it (eg. when he scumread me for just bringing up that fergus had been subbed multiple times). Again, I have a hard time figuring out what all of that means.

Rochelle has been the target of the town since Gizelle died. She tore down logic that defended her one time and she talks about herself in the third person, like wtf.

Trinity has posted relatively infrequently, and seems relatively aggressive. She has been really anti-gizelle and anti-makino all game. Again, I have trouble reading from that.

Fergus has been posting relatively infrequently as well. His logic is a bit skewed in my opinion and he tends to post short posts. I immediately have a scummy bias toward him for these things, but IDK.

So I basically don't have a read on anyone.

As i said before, I'm sorry for the lack of activity, but timezones are annoying and life is busy, i try to get on when i can :< It's almost impossible to post at the same time as you lot, i never catch the big lot of activity. Also, how on earth have i been anti-makino the entire game? Please show me evidence, that is a couple of posts at least or shows lots of negativity, cause one post doesn't mean shit. And about gizelle, there was literally a ckncensus from town that she was scummy and not aiding our efforts. I don't see how that is scummy if a lot of people had those feelings.

Will do a read list later tonight since there was a request.

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Rochelle R. wrote:

Makino C. wrote:Let me get this straight, you don't think Me and trinity or me and butler are a scum team?
Not mentioning mickey because she died

My post specifically siad I thought the former was a scumteam.

Just gonna add something to this. Why the push on me, butler and makino? Please explain your thoughts on us if possible, and furthermore, there is a lack of focus on people like susiskoh and fergus. You literally matched up 3/5 of town and said here are my thoughts. If you're gonna look at a majority of people, you may as well look at them all godammit. Just saying  i feel you've had a lack of content on them, not bringing them to our attention like you've been doing with us.

Also, was the scum team confirmed to be 3? How do we not know it's 2 or whatever. Just wondering n case i missed  it somewhere.

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Wow, good job on getting scum guys. And as some of you were saying, the inactive lynch could have been seen as scummy from rochelle. She has shown enough sense not to just jump in it imo and it could have been a possible end to town. I'm seeing no scumhunting there, that was just lucky as hell, even if it was luck, and perhaps bussing could have happened.

And about the bussing kaito thing, i see it as very possible. He hadn't got subbed yet, somehow, could have still been sufficiently active in the QT and they decided to do this to change things up a bit. Just an idea but yeah, it's possible.

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Holy crap you guys post shit fast. 5 pages in a day o.o

Sukisoh S. wrote:Gizelle? This is the one where I would admit that I didn't lynch for no strong reason. IIRC, Trinity wanted to test something out and requested nobody else lynch Gizelle. I kept my lynch to myself, but in the end she didn't say when her test was done.

But i did say. I said she isn't answering any questions and is inactive basically, so st go ahead and lynch her if you guys wanted to.
Also, about the butler thing, I'm pretty damn certain that one of the incredibly active posters are scum. Just seems likely in this game that 1/however many scum would be really town focussed and gain their trust. Butler has done a couple of odd things, but perhaps we should look a bit further in depth at some posts of everyone, you never know.

Not leaving a lynch, i don't feel it's my place and i have no clue right now.

(Also, i blame my lack of posts on timezones, you guys seem to love to post when I'm away or asleep :p)

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Oh yeah, and if anyone has questions or anything, please feel free to ask away.

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My apologies about getting back to this a touch late, school has kept me extremely busy as of late. Anyways, here we go! -

Cassandra G. - dead
Butler P. - I'm getting a town read from butler, he's talking some sense and i think he has some good ideas, and as well, he isn't just going with the flow of the town, which is nice. He is disagreeing with some things and making a lot of conversation that i think has been beneficial for town so far.
Andreas B. - deader than dead
Sukisoh S. - 50/50, really really unsure about sukisoh. Some of his posts have been of great quality and i think have directed us a bit but some of his ideas, such as the whole 'policy lynch' thing and a few other things. Perhaps scum, perhaps not, i have no clue at this point.
Kaito J. - i personally do not have a clue about kaito, he's very lurky and isn't of the greatest posters. Not information so i can't base much.
Trinity M. - moi
Gizelle V. - deader than deader than dead
Mickey L. - great poster. Has a lot of good conversational topics that aid us and i think is a town read. Albeit all this I'm a bit unsure on the whole mickey+(insertplayerhere) thing we're talking about as of late. I have the slightest doubts about a couple but some are just not true a bit farfetched. Probable town anyway, thought i should just add that in.
Fergus K. - not too much information yet, but from his first posts so far, i think he has some nice ideas. Rochelle has been troubling me for a bit and his quotes do show some of the things we should have bern looking at back on like d1/2, and had slipped under the radar. Gonna just leave my thoughts as neutral, still unsure.
Makino C. - some very good ideas, but makino had been a bit troublesome in places, but i think that is just a lot of varying opinions at the town. Leaning town but more like a 60/40 split.
Rochelle R. - Rochelle imo has been one of the people who has kind of slipped under the radar a bit. Has lots of posts but some of the posts just seem a bit questionable. Very cautious with her and i personally need ti think this out. Neutral.

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Also, will definitely look back later tonight or tomorrow morning and create a read list. Personally, i think everyone should do this, we're midgame and i think we have enough information about most people. Would be nice to get everyone's opinions.

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Damn it, unlucky guys. My fault for that personally, i pushed it in the first place but i guess doing that now would be better than having a super scummy villy at lylo.

Makino C. wrote:Our game is slowly going inactive ;~; (Not just saying that because the nubs in game 12 are ahead of us xD)
I really don't know who to suspect right now. But is it just me or does Mickey+trinity seem like a perfect scum team? I mean Im not trying to jump to conclusions but they both seem to take each others opinions and claim the other one is town. Seems like a play to me. Or it may just be me being paranoid, idk.

We started before game 12, i cri errytiem ;_;

Also, will comment on the me and mickey thing, seeing as it's always good to share and give more information, even if it's about myself. Why on earth would scum make something like that so obvious, personally i think a good scum would wrap themselves around something that wasn't as obvious and wouldn't out their partner, saying the other scum is a town read is scummy as hell, and it would be a dumbbplay for scum to do that, as we would go back an look at their reads and stuff to see what they 'think'.

TLDR: me and Mickey have quite similar opinions, scum would not just make themselves look similar, they would make themselves be differing etc, that would be dumb as hell

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Rochelle R. wrote:

Gizelle V. wrote:main goal: weeding out scummy people
sub goal: weeding out scummy actions

my posts were scummy actions, they did not contribute to town. all the complaints people have against me together make a case for me to be a scummy person, this is how scumhunting works, the problem came when people started jumping to conclusions and assuming I said something that ive now clarified I hadnt
one of the most unfortunate things about the human conscious is that, when a straw breaks the camels back so to speak, and then you remove all the load from the camel, the camel still wont be okay. while i havent removed all the load off of peoples scummy perceptions of me, i do think ive made an adequate defense. that's what happened to that guy in starfox mafia, he was perceived to be scummy, made a good counterargument that should have resolved the issue, but people still maintained their lynch votes on him and lost a townie. its the reason politics is so frustrating; we all know what we believe and fervently know that we believe it, we just have trouble knowing why we believe it, even if you try to convince them that they are wrong.

I personally don't agree that you've made an adequate defense. If your goal was to weed out scummy people, you should have stopped your scummy acts a long time ago, but you didn't. You still really haven't stopped being scummy; you're trying to divert attention from yourself to me. You seriously lynched yourself. There is no reason for a villy to do that.

Exactly, my goodness. If your main goal was to get rid of scummy people, then why on earth did you act so scummy. And as you said, your posts were scummy actions and "people started jumping to conclusions". How the hell did we jump to conclusions over the past 3 days? lmao.
We gave you time, analysed what you said, and came to a conclusion. I pressured that lynch on you at first because I wanted you to explain your actions, and I think you've done nothing with that. I even asked people to stop lynches for like a day or so in real time so that you could have time to explain, which you didn't. The whole "look at rochelle omg what a scummy person" thing you're doing is a bit off too, like she was saying about. Also may I add the fact you didn't even mention me, the person who started the lynch on you, to get looked at is a bit odd, seeing as the names you gave are really just people who have been targeting you.


(jsyk as well, i wouldn't base your things on past games, that really doesn't work well for town or scum, all games end up different.)

Sukisoh S. wrote:To be honest, I really can't tell who is scum. Maybe its my skewed vision where I see everybody as town. So far, my only reason for wanting to lynch Gizelle is only a policy lynch.

Yeah, it's sorta a policy lynch to me, she's had close to 0 contributions and is distracting us from the main goal. But also, some of her actions have been extremely off-putting and scummy since day 1. We've been highlighting a few of these today, which are like a page or so back. I just see Gizelle as a likely scum, and a good shot at getting town closer to the win.

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Mickey L. wrote:Also, everyone's thoughts about a possible Rochelle+Gizelle scumteam? Rochelle has consistently defended Gizelle, although she makes a concession here. She could be mafia trying to save her scumpartner, or a town trying to defend someone who seems to have everyone else against them.

Possibly. The fact rochelle is now suddenly "oh oh, i see, defos scum" after thinking "yeah, definitely town" is putting me off. It's almost like she is just putting herself more in line with the townies, and just 'giving up' on her possible partner eg throwing them under the bus.. Just an example though, not saying they are.

But yeah, definitely a possiblity, I've had my suspicions about the two of them, just not as a pair.

Also, about the Gizelle lynch, if she doesn't reply soon, imo we should just talk it out and make our mind up, it seems about time, and no other suggestions have been brought up.

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Gizelle V. wrote:it would be best to lynch the nontalker if anybody. statistically its best to lynch someone today. i lynched cassandra becuase i just want to lynch someone. not scummy, just smart
and btw, is it 5 villies, 3 maf? if that were true then why have night phases at all? there has to be power roles so maybe accidentally lynching a villy to get info would be a good thing
but for now, its just scumhunting "oh poor me" and emotional junk

Gizelle V. wrote:oh, there are 8 townies,not 8 total players
i say we do citrs doctrine and lynch someone to get it over with, even if we had 5 villies 3 maf then it would still be best to lynch D1.
if you want, you can lynch me. i'm a vanillager, so its all good. it will give our power roles more (less?) wiggle room

Gizelle V. wrote:we only lose if three more villies are lynched, i suggest keep pressuring lurky people and reaction testing
makino, you make no sense, your logic ios bad, you should feel bad, your a lurker, go away scum, etc.

A few examples. Basically taken over the course of a few days, her mentality suddenly changes as she says 'if three more villies were lynched', although she was pushing for lotsa lynches the day before, although to be fair that was the only thing we could really do, seeing as no night phases. She also sorta poked at the huge Cassandra deal, and I feel contributed to making a bit more than it was.

To be honest, it's bit of a feeling personally, and there isn't much content to go on, which isn't that great either.

Mickey L. wrote:

Trinity M. wrote:
I don't how you haven't seen her mindset. To be honest, it's been pretty apparent. The way she has responded to some comments and reasoning behind lynches eg Cassandra day 1 (there was literally none) mighy suggest something.

I would grab some examples/responses etc, but I'm a touch busy, will get to it later on today
I was referring to Andreas, they had been a decent overall contributor, didn't make things too complicated (other than the occasional german word) and had some decent thoughts imo.

And yeah, no one else lynch gizelle, we don't want this getting carried away. I want to hear from gizelle, please explain your actions thus far and tell us your thoughts on some members of the group, read lists may help us at this rate.

What's the mindset you're referring to?

I agree with what you're saying RE: Andreas, but if that's the case, why didn't you lynch Gizelle and save Andreas, especially given that you are saying she is scum now?

Honestly, all of us here are to blame for Andreas' lynch; we didn't have very good reasoning for it imo and I probably should have advocated more to not lynch Andreas; i'm still extremely surprised that Andreas didn't save himself by lynching Gizelle though...

Could have worded the mindset thing better if i'm being serious, it was early and I was in a rush, was just meaning the way she acted, so kind of her mindset, just used rochelle's use of it from her question towards me.

Also yeah, I totally agree, we're all to blame for Andreas loss. I didn't jump to save Andreas because I wasn't around much of late Day 2, but I'm not even sure if I would have to be fair, it was a risky lynch on either of them and I would have preferred more conversation between all of us about it. I personally would have tried to have pulled people off the bandwagons.

Also, I had a look at the lynches from the past two days, and I haven't found much linking people (eg. people lynching the same person, same people on the hammer) but these three (Butler P., Gizelle V., Makino C.) all lynched Cassandra D1, which happen to be some of the people some of us are suspecting most. Personally, I think it's just coincidence and it's probably gonna end up as a lot of crap, but I thought I may as well share albeit it hasn't got much use.

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Rochelle R. wrote:

Trinity M. wrote:Great job lynching a good contributor to the town so far. Thanks a lot guys.


lynch gizelle v.

Gizelle V. wrote:maybe less german would have made you not lynched

hi shitty response, my name is trinity.
/s
That aside, you have been really awkward a lot of the game, and the fact that you're asking us to pressure other players that I do agree need pressured, but you're dodging the bullet a bit yourself I feel. You were very lurky for a bit and weren't a great contributor, and still aren't i feel. Lots of times you have shown yourself not to be the best.

I didn't think he was contributing a whole lot tbh. And thanks for suggesting alternatives.
She's shown herself not to  be the best? That's no reason to lynch. Show why her mindset tells that she is scum.

I don't how you haven't seen her mindset. To be honest, it's been pretty apparent. The way she has responded to some comments and reasoning behind lynches eg Cassandra day 1 (there was literally none) mighy suggest something.

I would grab some examples/responses etc, but I'm a touch busy, will get to it later on today

Mickey L. wrote:Andreas, y u no lynch Gizelle and save yourself? D:

Trinity M. wrote:Great job lynching a good contributor to the town so far. Thanks a lot guys.

Are you referring to Andreas or Cassandra here?

lynch gizelle v.

Gizelle V. wrote:maybe less german would have made you not lynched

hi shitty response, my name is trinity.
/s
That aside, you have been really awkward a lot of the game, and the fact that you're asking us to pressure other players that I do agree need pressured, but you're dodging the bullet a bit yourself I feel. You were very lurky for a bit and weren't a great contributor, and still aren't i feel. Lots of times you have shown yourself not to be the best.

Also @Gizelle, were you even reading? The fact that he was speaking German was nowhere near the main reason he was lynched.
I'm not sure what to say about Gizelle; she definitely had that scummy lynch on Cassandra back on D1 which I still feel she hasn't justified legitimately (or reasoning that would make it seem less scummy, if I remember correctly). However, she has contributed to the town, although some may say that the contributions have not been a lot.
The main reason i'm not lynching her is that it just doesn't make sense to me that a mafia would play like this. I would think that they'd be trying to avoid conflict as much as possible and constantly proofreading their psots to make sure that they don't make any mistakes that could be seen as scummy. I dunno, that's just my view on it.

I was referring to Andreas, they had been a decent overall contributor, didn't make things too complicated (other than the occasional german word) and had some decent thoughts imo.

And yeah, no one else lynch gizelle, we don't want this getting carried away. I want to hear from gizelle, please explain your actions thus far and tell us your thoughts on some members of the group, read lists may help us at this rate.

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Great job lynching a good contributor to the town so far. Thanks a lot guys.


lynch gizelle v.

Gizelle V. wrote:maybe less german would have made you not lynched

hi shitty response, my name is trinity.
/s
That aside, you have been really awkward a lot of the game, and the fact that you're asking us to pressure other players that I do agree need pressured, but you're dodging the bullet a bit yourself I feel. You were very lurky for a bit and weren't a great contributor, and still aren't i feel. Lots of times you have shown yourself not to be the best.

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Rochelle R. wrote:Ironically, I had forgotten about Trinity in my earlier read list. She hasn't been too active. Odd...

I had literally said sorry for my inactivity, i had internet problems and currently got prelims to be studyin for, so couldn't be as active.

Anyway, a lot of the stuff has been covered that i wanted to say so, I'm basically on the same sort of wavelengths as a lot of you guys. I guess I'll give a read list now, an then bring up anything i need after.

Rochelle - neutral read, seems odd how protown her shit got after suspicions first day imo, but that may just be me. 50/50
Butler - most likely a town read, but something is defos putting me off with him, it just doesn't seem right and i'll definitely take a closer look at him
Fergus - lack of stuff atm, unsure on any reads.
Sukisoh - has had town positive posts, but i personally have suspicions, possible scum in my eyes, but we'll see.
Makino - 45/55, i think some of their reasoning is kinda off and the posts have conflicted a bit, but i do think there is a possibility for town, moreso scum however.
Gizelle - posts are confusing, pls clear yourself up and post more content
Andreas - town, i think you have great quality analysis and are up for helping town a good deal, from what i have seen you have done that well.
Kaito - unsure, i need to look more
Mickey - town imo, has been questioning folk and is very protown. Very good member of the town so far.

(Also, Rochelle, sorry bout nitpicking but pls learn to multiquote and do large blocks of text, that page of posts by you was annoying . Easily could've been done in one or two posts. You got better later on but i may as well say it seeing as many didn't mention it.)

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My apologies for not being around that much lately. Extremely busy with things, will take a look at posts later and share my findings later. :<