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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Anyways good luck guys. Was fun playing with you, even if it didn't last long. I hope to do more in the future, and GOD BLESS THE GUNS!
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:03 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

BAH!
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:02 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Goodbye, friends...
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:59 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Darn it! I was really enjoying this game! It just hit me how annoying it is that I gave such crappy reads at the start of the day today. I wouldn't have screwed this all up if I hadn't.



NEVER FORGET THE GUNS! afro
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:58 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

If Jeremiah is town, Cherry is scum.
If Jeremiah is scum, Cherry is town.

There simply aren't enough people on right now to take plur off me, so I'm honestly just throwing reads out there. Enjoy them as you wish...
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:56 pm
 
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Aw, darn! Didn't see plur on me. Welp, good luck guys! As I like to say... may the odds be ever in your favour! And follow Proctor and Emmy, they are town and there's not a lot they can do to change that (aside from Emmy's weird 2nd head.)
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:53 pm
 
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Who's plur even on right now??? Haven't looked at lynches in too long, would be nice if AJ gave a last-min lynchcount.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:50 pm
 
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Never mind, didn't see Emmy's large bold post. Idling fruit tonight.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:48 pm
 
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Emmy, whichever head just made that post scored yourself a townread in my eyes. You brought up a lot of great points, and a lot of them, such as your point on me v Jeremiah, didn't seem like something I'd expect scum to elaborate on so close to deadline (if that makes sense). Your other head is confusing me so much!!! That is, if I'm reading the heads correctly. Unable to get direct quotes right now, but the head that was talking nearer to the start of day today is just flipflopping on town and scum to be honest. They brought up some decent points, but they also brought up some decent filler as well, and some of those points were empty. That's all for now, will elaborate tomorrow (and yes, I think it's a great idea to use my striking muscles as your designating factor! Go for it! cheers ) Anyways, can someone (very) quickly clarify what the agreed-upon plan is tonight? If I receive no response, will assume we are all idling.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:47 pm
 
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Deadline is quickly approaching! Typing my response to Emmy's query now, and if it's not out by deadline me and my gleaming guns wholeheartedly apologize.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:42 pm
 
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Lastly, I don't like the way he immediately unlynched Cherry after she posted, almost as if he didn't even read it. That was some pretty harsh skepticism, and just because of one wallpost defense you completely drop it?
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:14 pm
 
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Unless Jeremiah flips town, I doubt Cherry is scum at this point. After all, seeing as most of us scumread him anyways, there's no reason for Jeremiah to try to get us to lynch his partner before the day ends, that would likely just result in a back-to-back scum lynch or at least something close to it. Will look forward to seeing this flip though.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:12 pm
 
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Lynch Jeremiah W. Scum vibes after these posts just got to my head, will explain below

Jeremiah W. wrote:Well, I sorta forgot about this and when I did remember, I haven’t had time and I DEEPLY apologise about me only making 2-5 posts relevant to the game, the activity will only be uphill from now, I promise. I’m also sorry that when I do post, it’s not of high quality, I’ve just been losing interest, in general.
Where is my partner at? Welp, I guess he’s leaving me in the dark with all his scummy posts…
Time for MY reads and thoughts on the game so far. Might seperate them into different posts, so it ain’t a big wall post that’d be hard to read.  Staying up all night to finish this in time. P-edit: I can’t work on this anymore, I’m way too tired.. I hopefully will be done before DL
Took me way too long than it should’ve, because I don’t know how to ISO, so it’s really hard. I will bold my questions, so it’s easier to refer to/read and/or the more important parts

So, reads. (in order of PL from “Alive” hider)
I’d first like to say, Emmy you asked me for my reads, but not me, so whatever. Still hope this is of use though.

Clara H as Leaning Scum - Clara’s Beginning of Day 1 was what you would expect it to be, RVS vote/comments, etc. Nothing special about that. I feel that they don’t actually want to post (same for me right now), that isn’t actively checking/reading the thread and their posts seem really forced. She only made 2 posts, and then claimed it was the end of RVS but I think that end of RVS naturally comes and doesn’t need to be announced. Some of her reads were somewhat supported by weak reasoning, but it was Day 1, so I don’t expect much from that, but she asks questions to people to gain reads + now her reads D2 are better, more supported and are overall good. Their most recent post is quite weirdly placed, since they never said what “strong reasons” there are for lynching me, and then contradicts herself by saying “haven’t looked into him as much as I should have”, but she already said there were also strong reasons to lynch me? So, what are these “strong reasons?” If she starts to shift to me, a Clara + Shepherd could become more viable. She comes off as a mediator to me, occasionally asking questions, usually states the obvious/something already stated before, which scum usually do to seem like they’re actually doing something.

Halsey N. as LockTown - If I remember correctly, he started strong by being the first person to bring up the fruit circle strategy (or sometime near the same time when Emmy did it). Constantly giving reads, scumhunting, asking questions, analysing things really well, constantly progressing town in the right direction, prodding people to speak and responding/analysing posts really quickly. Overall, definitely my biggest tr right now, doing a lot. Keep it up, kid.

Shepherd D. as Scum - Their D1 was really weird if you ask me. They unlynched their RVS vote in 20 minutes, where Doc Proc didn’t post anything, besides his RVS vote. What stood out about his RVS vote that made you UL your RVS vote? Then they didn’t say anything else. Let’s move onto Day 2. They said that they received fruit, but not sure if that helped. If you actually read the plan/thread, you would know it would help. Since, you said that you discussed sending fruit to X, but it didn’t work, not sure why, since someone else stated, they didn’t actually bolded it, but it still worked, so I still think they might’ve been discussing to kill or to fruit. They’ve tried shifting attention to other players such as Infernando and Dok Prok. He said he would “look at Kimmy later.” It’s been 12 hours. Where you at? To conclude, he’s really scummy due to him shifting attention a lot, not actually doing much, not fruiting due to prodding partner, being contradictory and not actually reading the thread. Also, I think the paragraph he said “Doesn’t seem like a paragraph is going to save me now” seemed very forced to make that post and it’s not of very good quality, so it supports the point of it being forced/pressured.

Caroline M. - Such a Dazzling Pair of Heads! One of them is dazzling! ..and the other, not really. You can easily tell she reads the thread, if not, reads it again and again. Analyses quite well, responds/asks questions a lot and responds quite quickly. It seems that this Caroline is carrying the other one. She often, over-analyses things, such as the bolded question mark, and she hasn’t given a readlist yet. She does respond/ask questions a lot, but I don’t see signs of scumhunting. Caroline, could you make a Readlist? I am absolutely dazzled by this player! Dazzling dazzlement, that has truly dazzled me, dazzled! Dazzled! Okay, I’ll stop. Neutral, might changed after RL has been posted.

Will continue, later when I wake up.

Comments/responses that are relevant to right now (probably have more, too tired to remember);

1. So people have been saying that we should keep the fruits ‘till MYLO or whatever. Is most past games, as I’ve read, AJ doesn’t allow NL. So, if it’s MYLO, and we lynch someone, what’s the point of the fruits? Scum can just kill and end the game? Plus, if they decided not to kill, LYLO would be a better situation then MYLO. Pre-mylo use is fine, if we want it to be MYLO, but personally, I prefer LYLO since better odds and more intense/easier to play. I feel that turning this into Semi-Nightless, is the best play right now, since it would mean, we would have more days to get more solid reads.
2. A flaw in our plan about circlefruiting, is that Mafia could just kill a random person if it’s pre-mylo, and one of them claim they haven’t received a fruit, and 2 people to lynch. They could easily create a “randomised” list with a scummy person before them and push them.


Okay, first off, I can believe your "being tired", that's not what gets me. The read on me could easily be OMGUS. That's not what gets me. But your townreads just don't make much sense! You need to give us real examples. And calling someone "locktown" just because they started strong, give reads and are a "good presence"? Are you desperate to spew out reads or what?

Jeremiah W. wrote:Lynch Cherry., gonna leave my vote here as Pressure, to be explained in next post. (from me anyways, hopefully my partner posts.)


And there it is. There's the pitiful attempt at a counterwagon to try and end the day without you getting lynched. Why "pressure" someone that has no lynches on them? That's not pressure, that's just desperation.

Jeremiah W. wrote:
Kimmy S. wrote:Jeremiah you were scumreading Halsey most of Day 1, no? Actually, you didn't even be clear in your reads, then scumread me when I started forcing people into a "yes/no" position. Feels scum to me.

Re: Which Kimmy is Which, so how did you distinguish between Kimmys to get the "SR one, TR other"? And assuming you meant you SRed some posts and TRed others, can you be more specific in which posts you disliked?

I think Emmy is Town here, that gamesolving doesn't come from scum imo. They're elaborating sufficiently and they're very clear on their reads.

Cherry's posts look a lot like Emmy's at first glance, but it's just really mostly filler if you strip down the post. They aren't really explaining stuff as it is more quoting stuff and "I feel X from Y". Also I don't think Cherry was even on at EoD1 so can you continue with what you felt about Halsey and why you decided what he said was sufficient? Even if you TR him now, we outsiders would like to hear why you felt it was correct to drop the case.

Shepherd's hot avi distracted me for a while >.> but their posts are pretty much just scum tbh. The other players have pretty much milked the case dry so I'll leave it be right now until something pings me hard.

Still feel Jeremiah > Shepherd, Jeremiah feels like a lost case at this point while Shepherd is redeemable (maybe)


It was my partner who SR'd Halsey most of D1, not me. I agree with the point, partially is why they're one of my top scumreads (along with Shepherd).

What makes you believe so harshly that we're a scumteam?

Kimmy S. wrote:re: Fruit the night before MyLo we fruit?


I still think that Going into LYLO is better than MYLO, since better chances, but then again, if we do lynch correctly in MYLO, we're not straight away into LYLO again. (which we would be if, we went into LYLO) What's everyone's thoughts on this?

Emmy A. wrote:
Jeremiah W. wrote:Well, I sorta forgot about this and when I did remember, I haven’t had time and I DEEPLY apologise about me only making 2-5 posts relevant to the game, the activity will only be uphill from now, I promise. I’m also sorry that when I do post, it’s not of high quality, I’ve just been losing interest, in general.
Where is my partner at? Welp, I guess he’s leaving me in the dark with all his scummy posts…
Time for MY reads and thoughts on the game so far. Might seperate them into different posts, so it ain’t a big wall post that’d be hard to read.  Staying up all night to finish this in time. P-edit: I can’t work on this anymore, I’m way too tired.. I hopefully will be done before DL
Took me way too long than it should’ve, because I don’t know how to ISO, so it’s really hard. I will bold my questions, so it’s easier to refer to/read and/or the more important parts

So, reads. (in order of PL from “Alive” hider)
I’d first like to say, Emmy you asked me for my reads, but not me, so whatever. Still hope this is of use though.

Clara H as Leaning Scum - Clara’s Beginning of Day 1 was what you would expect it to be, RVS vote/comments, etc. Nothing special about that. I feel that they don’t actually want to post (same for me right now), that isn’t actively checking/reading the thread and their posts seem really forced. She only made 2 posts, and then claimed it was the end of RVS but I think that end of RVS naturally comes and doesn’t need to be announced. Some of her reads were somewhat supported by weak reasoning, but it was Day 1, so I don’t expect much from that, but she asks questions to people to gain reads + now her reads D2 are better, more supported and are overall good. Their most recent post is quite weirdly placed, since they never said what “strong reasons” there are for lynching me, and then contradicts herself by saying “haven’t looked into him as much as I should have”, but she already said there were also strong reasons to lynch me? So, what are these “strong reasons?” If she starts to shift to me, a Clara + Shepherd could become more viable. She comes off as a mediator to me, occasionally asking questions, usually states the obvious/something already stated before, which scum usually do to seem like they’re actually doing something.

Halsey N. as LockTown - If I remember correctly, he started strong by being the first person to bring up the fruit circle strategy (or sometime near the same time when Emmy did it). Constantly giving reads, scumhunting, asking questions, analysing things really well, constantly progressing town in the right direction, prodding people to speak and responding/analysing posts really quickly. Overall, definitely my biggest tr right now, doing a lot. Keep it up, kid.

Shepherd D. as Scum - Their D1 was really weird if you ask me. They unlynched their RVS vote in 20 minutes, where Doc Proc didn’t post anything, besides his RVS vote. What stood out about his RVS vote that made you UL your RVS vote? Then they didn’t say anything else. Let’s move onto Day 2. They said that they received fruit, but not sure if that helped. If you actually read the plan/thread, you would know it would help. Since, you said that you discussed sending fruit to X, but it didn’t work, not sure why, since someone else stated, they didn’t actually bolded it, but it still worked, so I still think they might’ve been discussing to kill or to fruit. They’ve tried shifting attention to other players such as Infernando and Dok Prok. He said he would “look at Kimmy later.” It’s been 12 hours. Where you at? To conclude, he’s really scummy due to him shifting attention a lot, not actually doing much, not fruiting due to prodding partner, being contradictory and not actually reading the thread. Also, I think the paragraph he said “Doesn’t seem like a paragraph is going to save me now” seemed very forced to make that post and it’s not of very good quality, so it supports the point of it being forced/pressured.

Caroline M. - Such a Dazzling Pair of Heads! One of them is dazzling! ..and the other, not really. You can easily tell she reads the thread, if not, reads it again and again. Analyses quite well, responds/asks questions a lot and responds quite quickly. It seems that this Caroline is carrying the other one. She often, over-analyses things, such as the bolded question mark, and she hasn’t given a readlist yet. She does respond/ask questions a lot, but I don’t see signs of scumhunting. Caroline, could you make a Readlist? I am absolutely dazzled by this player! Dazzling dazzlement, that has truly dazzled me, dazzled! Dazzled! Okay, I’ll stop. Neutral, might changed after RL has been posted.

Will continue, later when I wake up.

Comments/responses that are relevant to right now (probably have more, too tired to remember);

1. So people have been saying that we should keep the fruits ‘till MYLO or whatever. Is most past games, as I’ve read, AJ doesn’t allow NL. So, if it’s MYLO, and we lynch someone, what’s the point of the fruits? Scum can just kill and end the game? Plus, if they decided not to kill, LYLO would be a better situation then MYLO. Pre-mylo use is fine, if we want it to be MYLO, but personally, I prefer LYLO since better odds and more intense/easier to play. I feel that turning this into Semi-Nightless, is the best play right now, since it would mean, we would have more days to get more solid reads.
2. A flaw in our plan about circlefruiting, is that Mafia could just kill a random person if it’s pre-mylo, and one of them claim they haven’t received a fruit, and 2 people to lynch. They could easily create a “randomised” list with a scummy person before them and push them.


So you scumread Shepherd (as Scum) and Clara as (slight scumread), and you think they are a possible scumteam. Have you looked at their recent posts though? It doesn't seem like any of their posts are forced, and the points they continue to bring up on Shepherd definitely make sense IMO. I would disagree with this read, would like some more elaboration on why you slightly scumread them.

I'd agree Hasley is town, though I wish they didn't just go AFK after their 100th post Crying or Very sad But yeah, I got really nothing more to say (I already explained why I think Hasley is town).

I'll agree with the read on Shepherd, and especially the contradictory part. Nothing more to be said either.

Seems like you townread Caroline for how she analyzes the game well (agreed), but then you mock her and have a final verdict of neutral, possibly due to the fact you think that her over use of "dazzling" makes her scum? It's NAI imo, and not sure why people make such a big fuss about it. Also "Neutral, might changed after RL has been posted." What do you mean by after the RL is posted?

Decent reads, though I'd like some elaboration from Clara read. Also want their thought on Cherry asap, as they are lynching them.


Re: Caroline, I think she's over-analysing a lot of things, mostly scum would do that for Town Cred imo, but other things she is doing is really good, which balances it out to Neutral imo. when I use "RL" I mean readlist.  

Elaboration on Clara read: Not sure which part you want elaboration on, but I think I know. So, I feel that most of her D1 and beginning of D2 posts seem very forced and that the post on me are very forced, since if she was scum with Shepherd, she would want to shift plur to me, since I am the counterwagon, which is why I said if she decides to switch, then that scumteam will become more viable.

Cherry P. as Scum - They're Beginning of D1 was quite weird. They started RVSing/FoSing cause of pre-game stuff, but pre-game is pre-game, it's mostly shitpost and messing around, not sure what there is scummy about it. They seem really stressed while making some of their posts, like the lynch on Halsey (D1) saying they hope they don't have to explain it, saying that reading is hard for her, sorta implying they might not read the thread. If you strip down their posts, taking out the info that is useless to us and has already been mentioned, then their posts are quite small, actually. I don't like how they only explained their lynch D1, only if they were asked + he doesn't convey her ideas very well, usually really confusing for me. Let's move onto D2, her activity dropped like, so hard. She says she'll do stuff "later", and that "later" is usually really later. She mostly just responds to things, and I don't see any signs of scumhunting. She responds to things about her, but doesn't really discuss general things. She clarifys if asked. Otherwise, she won't. She also usually asks questions back, in a response, but not starting the question, if you know what I mean. Overall, she isn't contributing much, responds about things only about her and she has bad activity / often says she'll do stuff "later".

Code:
Honestly, this isn't real reasoning. This is borderline being POE and not an actual read, trying to get us to feel hatred towards Cherry for all these "ridiculous" things. While I agree with some of these things, why is this such proof that she is scum? Inactivity/lack of post content isn't necessarily a scumtell.


Clara H. wrote:
Jeremiah W. wrote:Well, I sorta forgot about this and when I did remember, I haven’t had time and I DEEPLY apologise about me only making 2-5 posts relevant to the game, the activity will only be uphill from now, I promise. I’m also sorry that when I do post, it’s not of high quality, I’ve just been losing interest, in general.
Where is my partner at? Welp, I guess he’s leaving me in the dark with all his scummy posts…
Time for MY reads and thoughts on the game so far. Might seperate them into different posts, so it ain’t a big wall post that’d be hard to read.  Staying up all night to finish this in time. P-edit: I can’t work on this anymore, I’m way too tired.. I hopefully will be done before DL
Took me way too long than it should’ve, because I don’t know how to ISO, so it’s really hard. I will bold my questions, so it’s easier to refer to/read and/or the more important parts

So, reads. (in order of PL from “Alive” hider)
I’d first like to say, Emmy you asked me for my reads, but not me, so whatever. Still hope this is of use though.

Clara H as Leaning Scum - Clara’s Beginning of Day 1 was what you would expect it to be, RVS vote/comments, etc. Nothing special about that. I feel that they don’t actually want to post (same for me right now), that isn’t actively checking/reading the thread and their posts seem really forced. She only made 2 posts, and then claimed it was the end of RVS but I think that end of RVS naturally comes and doesn’t need to be announced. Some of her reads were somewhat supported by weak reasoning, but it was Day 1, so I don’t expect much from that, but she asks questions to people to gain reads + now her reads D2 are better, more supported and are overall good. Their most recent post is quite weirdly placed, since they never said what “strong reasons” there are for lynching me, and then contradicts herself by saying “haven’t looked into him as much as I should have”, but she already said there were also strong reasons to lynch me? So, what are these “strong reasons?” If she starts to shift to me, a Clara + Shepherd could become more viable. She comes off as a mediator to me, occasionally asking questions, usually states the obvious/something already stated before, which scum usually do to seem like they’re actually doing something.

Halsey N. as LockTown - If I remember correctly, he started strong by being the first person to bring up the fruit circle strategy (or sometime near the same time when Emmy did it). Constantly giving reads, scumhunting, asking questions, analysing things really well, constantly progressing town in the right direction, prodding people to speak and responding/analysing posts really quickly. Overall, definitely my biggest tr right now, doing a lot. Keep it up, kid.

Shepherd D. as Scum - Their D1 was really weird if you ask me. They unlynched their RVS vote in 20 minutes, where Doc Proc didn’t post anything, besides his RVS vote. What stood out about his RVS vote that made you UL your RVS vote? Then they didn’t say anything else. Let’s move onto Day 2. They said that they received fruit, but not sure if that helped. If you actually read the plan/thread, you would know it would help. Since, you said that you discussed sending fruit to X, but it didn’t work, not sure why, since someone else stated, they didn’t actually bolded it, but it still worked, so I still think they might’ve been discussing to kill or to fruit. They’ve tried shifting attention to other players such as Infernando and Dok Prok. He said he would “look at Kimmy later.” It’s been 12 hours. Where you at? To conclude, he’s really scummy due to him shifting attention a lot, not actually doing much, not fruiting due to prodding partner, being contradictory and not actually reading the thread. Also, I think the paragraph he said “Doesn’t seem like a paragraph is going to save me now” seemed very forced to make that post and it’s not of very good quality, so it supports the point of it being forced/pressured.

Caroline M. - Such a Dazzling Pair of Heads! One of them is dazzling! ..and the other, not really. You can easily tell she reads the thread, if not, reads it again and again. Analyses quite well, responds/asks questions a lot and responds quite quickly. It seems that this Caroline is carrying the other one. She often, over-analyses things, such as the bolded question mark, and she hasn’t given a readlist yet. She does respond/ask questions a lot, but I don’t see signs of scumhunting. Caroline, could you make a Readlist? I am absolutely dazzled by this player! Dazzling dazzlement, that has truly dazzled me, dazzled! Dazzled! Okay, I’ll stop. Neutral, might changed after RL has been posted.

Will continue, later when I wake up.

Comments/responses that are relevant to right now (probably have more, too tired to remember);

1. So people have been saying that we should keep the fruits ‘till MYLO or whatever. Is most past games, as I’ve read, AJ doesn’t allow NL. So, if it’s MYLO, and we lynch someone, what’s the point of the fruits? Scum can just kill and end the game? Plus, if they decided not to kill, LYLO would be a better situation then MYLO. Pre-mylo use is fine, if we want it to be MYLO, but personally, I prefer LYLO since better odds and more intense/easier to play. I feel that turning this into Semi-Nightless, is the best play right now, since it would mean, we would have more days to get more solid reads.
2. A flaw in our plan about circlefruiting, is that Mafia could just kill a random person if it’s pre-mylo, and one of them claim they haven’t received a fruit, and 2 people to lynch. They could easily create a “randomised” list with a scummy person before them and push them.


My main problem with this whole post is it isnt coming across as actively looking for scum

Clara- So you are saying I've got good reads today but you sr me becuase I said there were strong reasons to lynch you? seems like a pretty strange omgus to me.
Its a long paragraph but its really not much when you sit down and read it. As for the strong reasons thing, I've not looked into you much, but from what I've read people are lynching you and have good reason to do it

Hasley- This has an example of not really looking for scum. You state that he was one of the first to come up with the fruit strategy, yet he posted it hours after Emmy, Anima, and Cherry did. Why do you care so little about finding scum that you cant be bothered going and checking that?

OK I guess your read on shepherd is agreeable I dont see a problem

Caroline- Im confused here. You do nothing but compliment her and then follow up with neutral read, because she hasnt made a readslist? o. k.


Readslist is posting what you've scumhunted so far about everyone, I don't get what you mean by "I'm not actively looking for scum", could you elaborate?
Caroline - I just don't see much scumhunting in her posts, it's mostly just analysing, which doesn't mean she's scumhunting, which is why I asked of a readlist from her.

In conclusion: you are blaming everything on your other head, you're desperate to get a lynch on someone else, and your reads don't make much sense. I have found the scum! Feel the power of my glimmering guns! Basketball
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:09 pm
 
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Got it, Doctor Ambulance. Rolling Eyes
by Shepherd D.
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Infernando, what are you trying to do!? I mean, I regret that my other head has been reading you for inactivity Rolling Eyes (which makes no sense TBH) but if you're going to come on and neglect to even post your reads, or even read anything that's happened, either you're scum or you really need to get yourself a sub. The lack of activity is just going to hurt us, so either knock it off or sub out if you're not going to play the game.
by Shepherd D.
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Game 32: Farmer's Hydra

Proctor, you are actually two different people who share a lynch. I swear. One of you uses proper grammar, the other doesn't. You both have entirely different reads. How am I possibly supposed to read you if you're two people!? Anyways, my reads on Procky are still town for now. Would like to see what this new head does as time goes on.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:57 pm
 
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Whew- just got on before deadline! And holy mackerel, Jeremiah has actually posted! Commenting on Jeremiah's posts, he seems really eager to get the focus shoved to Cherry! Will comment on the rest of the recent posts in a moment, but Jeremiah's instantaneous attack on Cherry strikes me as an instant scum move. May lynch Jeremiah in a moment after I give my thoughts on Dr. Proctor head #2.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:56 pm
 
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Also like to say that I'm not a huge fan of Cherry's recent wallpost. The first few responses just seem like filler (restating responses, commenting on her own "sassiness" ???) and overall there's just a lack of worth-while content in that post. I have to go, so I'll finish up giving my thoughts later today.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:49 am
 
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Emmy A. wrote:Hey, I can't get on and stay on for too long for now but I'll definitely be here to give all of my thoughts before deadline. One thing I want to do for sure before time gets too close to deadline though is ask Shepherd why was was townreading Jermiah earlier. I'd been interested in hearing this because Shepherd not scumreading Jeremiah (one of the easier counterwagons) was a huge point in favor of Shepherd being town, but now that it's a scumread I want to hear more on how his opinion progressed. Added to the list of things I need to check is the timing of the opinion shift in connection with Jeremiah becoming a wagon.

At the same time, I want to Unlynch Shepherd D. and Lynch Jeremiah W. in order to pressure him a bit more as well before we get too close to deadline. I'm suspecting that Jeremiah's most recent post was from the other member of the hydra, but currently whichever one made the posts prior to this has ample time to reply. I anticipate disagreement from other me already but I feel this puts the pressure on Jeremiah that is needed, as his activity from what I've seen ebbs and flows with how focused the discussion is on him.

Literally every time I go to post this a new post is made. I've never felt such dread and excitement at the same time in anticipation of reading new posts. No Very Happy


The thing is, eh... despite the lack of volume and the filler, Jeremiah's posts just give off town vibes to me. He just seems more like bad town than actual fillery scum, despite his posts screaming otherwise. That's why I'm holding back on lynching him, I just want to hear what he has to say. Just from my point of view, the way he's typing just seems like it could be town who wants to say something and be helpful but just can't come up with anything (though I'm not sure why, there was a lot to talk about in Day 1) though at the same time he could easily be scum who's trying to slip away without saying too much and that's why I'd like to see his thoughts on all this right now.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:42 am
 
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I already typed out a post about Jeremiah without even mentioning lurking, Emmy. Jeremiah's posts just seem forced more than anything, especially his random "randomized fruiting list" which is just going to confuse people. They just give off an icky scummy vibe with the lack of volume in the information he's giving, plus the fruity filler as well.
by Shepherd D.
on Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:39 am
 
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Doctor Proctor's post makes me realize that I haven't looked at Kimmy yet, will check that out later. I'll also check out these fabulous guns! You should, too!
by Shepherd D.
on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:47 pm
 
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Alright, time to give you the gist of my thoughts. Thoughts inspired by my buff muscles, of course! Here it comes... (also, same as cherry, where the heck is my partner!? It's hard doing all the work in a hydra, y'know...) The reads I presented earlier with townreading you was mostly just a skim over posts and the general reads I was able to get from that. I should've mentioned this, but I neglected to in the end, which is my error. After reading more in-depth, I'm finding it rather hard to read Caroline and Clara, as their posts are somewhat helpful but don't exactly scream town to me upon reading them. If I had to choose one that I thought was more town, it'd probably be Caroline, as I'm getting slight gut town vibes there and I think if she were scum she'd be a bit more focused on things like reads than on using a dazzling mechanic to dazzle us with her individual dazzling hydra reads (gosh, this is more fun than I thought scratch) Same sort of thing with Jeremiah... didn't read far enough into his thoughts to find the scum deep down. And why is he still lurking!? Also, towards Emmy, I pointed out previously that I didn't shift to scumreading Jeremiah once a wagon had formed, my townread statement was made a good amount of time after a considerable wagon had formed bounce but anyways, Jeremiah is starting to stress me out. Just... just post SOMETHING! I can't develop my reads if you just keep lurking like that!
by Shepherd D.
on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:30 pm
 
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I understand the dazzle mechanic and find it an interesting way to separate the hydra heads without breaking the rules. As a side note, Proctor is just seeming more and more town to me. Caroline and Clara are still null, and slight scumlean on Jeremiah. Note to whoever said that I "stopped townreading him when the wagon formed" that I mentioned the townread after a defined wagon had already formed, and plus it was just a gut read anyways, had merely skimmed through his posts up until recently. I'm getting a bit of a gut scum vibe from Cherry for coming on to defend herself from my "attack" and then not having posted since then. Overall, the players I'd very much like to hear from soon are Jeremiah and Cherry. I need their opinions to develop my reads, and I'd love to hear Jeremiah's response to my read reasoning.
by Shepherd D.
on Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm
 
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So, Jeremiah. Sigh... I must admit that his reads on page thirteen do seem quite forced, and they're not very original either, I think those were the general accepted opinions at the time... aside from that, his randomized list of fruiting users seems filler and pointless. There's no need for a randomized list if you can just use the player list??? It won't really change anything except make it more difficult for the people actually passing fruit. Moving on, his push on Anima on the next page, looking back at Anima's flip, seems rather forced as well and a way that potential scum could take advantage of a townie. His next post seems forced too... all of his posts just scream forced scum at a second glance. The guilty part I know shouldn't be happening is that I've actually been getting gut townvibes from Jeremiah for a while, and that's messing up my read of him, so for now, I'm going to have to call this one null, slight scumlean, due to the information I just provided. You've been incredibly inactive today as well, which doesn't help me read you at all. I'm going to wait on lynching you until you've given us your thoughts.
by Shepherd D.
on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:29 am
 
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I must say I'm getting extreme town vibes from Dr. Proctor after that wallpost. I mean, first off, clearly he doesn't give a darn about looking town, which to be honest just makes him look more town in the end. After that, his reads make perfect sense (no, I'm not going to call you bad for having gutreads, I do too Rolling Eyes) and overall my only request is that you be a bit more active as I'm actually very interested in what you have to say on all this. Overall, let me make this clear: my read on Proctor has shifted from a scumlean to a townlean. (Also, "dissecting" this thread? Good pun, Doc.) I must also point out that I have delayed my paragraph on Jeremiah yet again by falling asleep just as I was about to type it, and I'm starting to type it out... now.
by Shepherd D.
on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:18 am
 
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