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Game 29: Guess Who?

penelope definitely deserved MVP!!!!! scumplay from them was insane
by Kylan R.
on Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:14 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

nice game gg Smile
by Kylan R.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:11 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

Lynch Penelope C.

idk if i got as far as posting this but reading over the full game penelope's posts are a lot about "i'm going to work on this/that etc." and that just screamed fake to me and honestly after i said I TR'd her she hardly considered me until LYLO now and has been hopping between me and rod trying to see who'll lynch the other. At the end of the day I'm just a sub and i haven't been that active so i'm sorry if i'm wrong
by Kylan R.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:41 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

ok im pretty sure its the rodman now
by Kylan R.
on Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:01 pm
 
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penelope if ur scum ur brilliant

i want to hear something from Rodman
by Kylan R.
on Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:32 am
 
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Penelope C. wrote:Disclaimer: There’s more that happened day 1, but this post is an effort to compile anything that may not be wifom from Anita regarding the interactions between her and others.

Second disclaimer: This is part 1 of an unknown number of parts. The reason for multiple ones is that the number of quotes in these posts are adding to the length, and I don’t want to turn what’s already a wall into a deadly block of text. Also, I already lost the first part of this once due to my computer lagging out and forcing me to close my browser (I’m typing this in a separate program now to prevent this.)

Anita B. wrote:Hello folks! Now that we've started, I figure we can just do this properly, after the usual d1 Bs ofc.

So I'd like to see what everyone's thoughts on me lynching Horatio A or Penelope C?


Anita’s first post basically suggests a lynch on myself or Horatio, the two people she went on to scumread at the end of the day. More specifically, it asks what people think of it, and this was of course the start of people scumreading her.


Anita B. wrote:
Sanpei S. wrote:You don't just ask us our thoughts on you lynching people.

You lynch them, and then see what we think. God.

Unlynch Professor Jacuzzi, Lynch Anita B.


Asking us to "approve" your lynch seems like a scummy thing to do, no? It's as though you're mafia asking town what to do so you can try to fit in better.


Can confirm I'm Mafia with professor jacuzzi

Lynch Penelope C


Probably filler/wifom, but I just wanted to point out that this comment wasn't random, as Kylan had said "Anita and Professor for early scumteam."

Anita B. wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:
Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.


My reasoning is that Anita is clearly mafia

Anita B. wrote:Hello folks! Now that we've started, I figure we can just do this properly, after the usual d1 Bs ofc.

So I'd like to see what everyone's thoughts on me lynching Horatio A or Penelope C?


Both of those lynches are fine, but I think lynching Anita B. is a better lynch over those two.


Same


Rhyanna about the randlynch on Anita, with just "Same" as a response (AKA the lack of defense Sanpei was trying to elicit). I also doubt that Rhyanna bussed this hard, though if she did we’re all getting played and I’ll cry.

Anita B. wrote:Cool, gn everyone!

This was in response to AJ posting the first votecount, which has 2 votes on her (Rhyanna and Sanpei) and 2 on Jacuzzi (Kylan and myself). The reason I’m bothering to quote this filler is because she didn’t make an effort to shift plurality off of herself and onto Jacuzzi (at this point, she has a lynch on me [unexplained at this point]).

The Rodman wrote:Did you claim mafia partners with Prof. Well I belive it.

Lynch Anita B


I know Rodman's sub asked us to disregard what few things their predecessor did, but this is here for completeness. It's either a random vote, a bandwagon, or a very quick buy-in to the beginning of a lot of wifom. I do wish we could ask The (First) Rodman if anything made him pick Anita over Jacuzzi when both were at 2 votes and considering what became their only sentence after the game began. Maybe it's just that Anita was the one to bring it up and I'm reading into it too much.

Anita B. wrote:
The Rodman wrote:Did you claim mafia partners with Prof. Well I belive it.

Lynch Anita B


Interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure your just bandwagoning because turbo.

I say we lynch Penelope C. today bc apparently she's superior to everyone else and I hate egotistical players


Clearly Anita would say I’m reading into it too much.  I take it this is the reasoning for Anita's early lynch on me, but I don't know if it's RVS or she legitimately just didn't like arrogant players. Lead to the "egoistical players attempt crazy bullshit" discussion.

Anita B. wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on Anita's reactions, btw?


Answer that

Unlynch, Lynch The Rodman

I like Sanpei's reasoning for keeping Penelope alive (egotistical players tend to slip is what I read it as, however I may have missed the meaning)

k so I'm gonna pressure Roddy here, idc if it's omgus.

The Rodman, Why jump on my Lynch?

Also, I know this is a bit early but, if I'm not scum, who do you think it is?

I'm going to post a bit more in a minute



Comments on liking Sanpei’s reason to keep me alive (although Sanpei voted to lynch me in the same post) and uses this to switch to Rodman to pressure for what Anita apparently perceives as bandwagon. I edited “if this is a bit early” to “I know this is a bit early” since that was an edit she made shortly after.

Anita B. wrote:Because honestly, you seem really flippant between me / penelope c / The rodman

speaking of rodman

YO RODMAN could you please explain your actions, thanks!


Looking at this now, right underneath the post where she votes for Rodman, it looks more like an attempt to pressure. She and Manning were the only ones on him at this point and Rodman’s vote on her was, according to her, bandwagon.

Anita B. wrote:
Ian S. wrote:Now that I have seen the monstrosity that is my picture, time to post reads, and oh so many interesting things I have seen.


Dude your picture is amazing.

Also Professor Jacuzzi can you come back pls


This is mostly just here because it’s another thing people scumread Anita for.

This thing is at ~1,050 words with the quotes included, so I’m going to call this part 1 and end it here. I’m going to attempt to work on a post similar to Sanpei’s as well as part 2 of this thing, although one thing I do want to say for now is that I feel a mix of gratitude and intimidation at being referred to as the town leader, especially considering that I thought that person was either Sanpei or Rhyanna.

Sidenote for myself in case something happens to m computer before I finish part 2: the next thing relating to Anita (aside from joking) is the set of lynched from Jacuzzi, Horatio, and myself, as well as Carl scumreading Anita and Rhyanna suggesting that Jacuzzi would be her partner.


this really worries me, other people + penelope. c refer to them as townlead yet they make it to LYLO? Also a lot of penelope's posts are "i'll work on this" "i'll work on that" which makes me feel like their activity is forced reinforced by the fact they haven't actually been as active as i thought upon rereading. Not SRing just acknowledging the fact this LYLO just got cracked wide open for me
by Kylan R.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:46 am
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

rodman if you ARE TOWN and ur in lylo now you should step the fuck up and start trying to figure out which one of us is scum dont carry this behaviour into lylo can you post something of worth
by Kylan R.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:35 am
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

tbh if this wasn't a forum game i'd probably lynch rod for his last day defeated townie behaviour but ig since this is pretty important i should read over the game first so i'll do that

please don't lynch
by Kylan R.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:34 am
 
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Penelope C. wrote:
Anita B. wrote:Hello folks! Now that we've started, I figure we can just do this properly, after the usual d1 Bs ofc.

So I'd like to see what everyone's thoughts on me lynching Horatio A or Penelope C?


A lot of people have said this already, but asking for approval before lynching does seem weird. I am curious about hearing the reasoning for Horatio A. though.

Sanpei S. wrote:You don't just ask us our thoughts on you lynching people.

You lynch them, and then see what we think. God.

Unlynch Professor Jacuzzi, Lynch Anita B.


Asking us to "approve" your lynch seems like a scummy thing to do, no? It's as though you're mafia asking town what to do so you can try to fit in better.


I agree with this. And if this was the only scummy thing from Anita I would agree with Ian on Sanpei's vote for Anita being scummier. However...

Anita B. wrote:Because honestly, you seem really flippant between me / penelope c / The rodman

speaking of rodman

YO RODMAN could you please explain your actions, thanks!


While I would appreciate it if The Rodman was more active, his only "action" so far has been a vote for you after you claimed to be scum with Professor Jacuzzi. (By the way, I hope The Rodman doesn't genuinely think mafia just claimed and named their partner in a theme like this.) I may be looking into this too deeply [stop me if I am, please] but even if The Rodman's lynch is a bandwagon (which I'm pretty sure it is), I don't see what reason Anita has to call out The Rodman and nobody else on her, unless The Rodman's lack of activity also factors in. But if this is the case:

Anita B. wrote:
Ian S. wrote:Now that I have seen the monstrosity that is my picture, time to post reads, and oh so many interesting things I have seen.


Dude your picture is amazing.

Also Professor Jacuzzi can you come back pls


Why also ask for someone who has been perfectly active? And why not mention Carl G., who at the time of your post had only made one post that just goes against spreading lynches?

The last of those posts is also in my opinion some more of the filled people have already pointed out.

It's taken longer to type this post than I anticipated, so I can't stay online for too long at the moment. But for the time being, I'm going to lynch Anita B.

I'll make my best effort to any questions directed at me when I return.

I also like the idea of Rhydon racing and that avatar.



:///// when they both have bad links to Anita B
by Kylan R.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:38 am
 
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The Rodman wrote:Honestly I feel like I am a very useless player. Even on PS I backpack off my fellow townies, and as far as reads go, I have never been the type to have actual reasons. I have primarily based the majority of my lynches off of gut feeling and reading the way people talk. I can also see how I can be the "sit back in the shadows guy", but I assure you when I am mafia I make an effort to be active and "townie". So it is very hard to townread me or scumread me because when I am close to being townread, my lack of reason makes me look scummy. So far everyone of my town reads, and 1 scum read have died (Manning). Honestly I still feel Carl as I have mentioned before, but I am fearful that my town read (Rhyanna) could be really good scum.


The Rodman wrote:Also, if some of you feel I am useless, you may as well lynch me to have better players in LyLo


can you explain why you posted these the day before fucking lylo
by Kylan R.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:31 am
 
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wasn't* to flip scum lol
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:01 pm
 
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LOL am i tripping or am i being omgus'd right now

LYNCH CARL. G

honestly this is what needs to happen i didn't really lean either way on Horatio so his flip wasn't a surprise to me, rhyanna and penelope i still do TR for their activity and pushing the game forward with their posts. if carl was to flip scum i'd probably want a full game reread to go over those two and if no change i'd explore the rodman. that's all i have rn
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:32 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:
Penelope C. wrote:
In response to the last paragraph, yes, I couldn’t realistically see the scum fillering without quickly amending it in order to avoid being lynched before they could make a nightkill. And no, Anita making a defense and posting some reads (and waiting until page 4 to do so) is not a quick amend. I was very much still scumreading Anita, however I didn't want to put her at L-1 again for the same reason as above, in addition to wanting to see her defense and Manning's response to it.

i honestly felt like she did do some contribution. it was definitely filler, but at first glance, it was sorta what people would have wanted to see, when in reality it was just nonsense. i mean yeah, you'd expect scum to aim to 'contribute' to avoid early pressure and avoid being at worse odds than before, but its not like they wouldnt do things like anita. in response to this: "I was very much still scumreading Anita", then why the fuck did you not lynch her when Manning then went and stuck her at L-1 on the final day? you got his response like what you wanted, and she had gave some sort of a response throughout. what stopped you from choosing to lynch her and considering you were still scumreading her and had such a detailed and heavy read on her up to that point.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reasoning against Penelope C. is that they never lynched Anita D1

honestly idk how he hasn't been lynched yet
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:02 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:@Penelope:
if its any consolation, i just simply could not get on at deadline like i thought and didnt lynch in time. still dont quite understand how the me not lynching her even though i had a pretty good explanation of my stance on Anita makes me a weak scum lean though. could you elaborate on that please?

also it's not like your argument is very valid in the first place considering the bullshit you can see in your past posts. lemme break down my thoughts for everyone.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tries to discredit Penelope's read on him based on Penelope's past posts.

what the fuck is this bullshit
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:57 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:lovely to have you join us kylan Smile im pretty happy to retract atm considering im sure there's plenty of other discussion that could happen elsewhere. decent commentary on jacuzzi though.
unlynch kylan

@manning i don't get your read on me at all lol. you seem to be completely overlooking like 75% of my content as it is. 1 post of mine was commenting that rhyanna should read, and i also said other stuff that was fairly ok in that post imo. secondly, i wasnt the one banging on about third is scum, and you can quite easily see it through the area where I mention it (like twice or something) in my reads list about other people who mentioned it ALL THE FUCKING TIME in their posts at that point. i mentioned it in my reads to simply get the point across and push some people to actually share content rather than nonsense like that. the other one was a response to my mention about sanpei thinking that was a good idea. apologies that i didnt lynch my MAIN scum read, its almost like im not allowed to have a life besides psanon you clown.
honestly read my posts manning, you'd get a better picture than the substandard one you're spreading in your reads list.

@sanpei: fair enough, didnt really come across that way in the way you said it. i mean her 'clearing' herself was a bit off, but i doubt its a bus or anything. if we go down the whole statistical route, bussing d1 in this setup would be fucking idiotic, and rhyanna would likely have awful odds in winning unless we're somehow that dumb (hopefully not). i doubt anyone would have bussed intentionally considering the whole nightless until n3 thing, making them be at an even worse advantage if any of the scum die within the 3 days. anyway, i just think that the other decent views about her is pretty indicative towards a town lean, and im not really doubting that at this stage.


This is so passive. At first he immediately retracts his inactivity push when the player returns and alludes to having "further discussion elsewhere", wouldn't town be trying to create discussion by pushing their reads?? All he's ever done at this point in the game is give filler paragraphs of game commentary while responding poorly to people. For example in this reply to sanpei it's just a paragraph full of dumb speculation "i doubt" "i doubt" "im not really doubting that"

His reply to manning is just rude as fuck as well like what is that reaction lmao
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:54 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:
Sanpei S. wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:by the way if anyone is clearing me for rling anita they should be clearing rodman too
the only difference is that I was here to change my lynch after I rled and rodman (probably?) wasn't.


When did anyone ever say we were clearing you?


Sanpei S. wrote:Unlynch Rodman, Lynch Rhyanna F.


what made you decide what everyone in the game was doing? collective we isnt a you sanpei.

anyway semantics aside, i dont get why you're pushing so heavily here on rhyanna. fair point, no one said that they were clearing her because of the random lynch. but there's several good arguments for a town read currently, which are all pretty valid despite what you may think. not a clear, sure, but im pretty certain quite a lot of the game has a town lean on rhyanna at this stage.

im just gonna get called out on buddying and defending for no apparent reason on this post (although i really am defending with no reason), but you need to be called out (even though you've been like this the entire game tbh) and your non-stop aggression isnt really helping 50% of the time when its unfounded and a bit nonsensical.

good job with the lynch btw guys, we're making great progress.

lynch Kylan R


Here he goes and defends an obvious town for towncred. He doesn't actually give any arguments in support of Rhyanna, just says that everyone else TR's her. He clearly acknowledges the fact he's buddying. Both these statements together suggests to me that if Carl.G were scum they'd have this thought process:

My scum partner just died -> People are suspecting one of the town who lynched them -> The lynch will probably fall through. -> I should defend Rhyanna because both outcomes give me town cred, with Rhyanna. F if she isn't lynched, and with the rest of town if she is.

He's such a good lynch for today.
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:49 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:by the way i have read like 1-2 sentences from each wallpost so if any of them are important let me know so i can read them
i dont like wall posts

Get used to them cause I'm not separating to just buff up my post count when I can just wall post and get the same detail across to you guys, rather than my scattered thoughts. Please read them though considering like 99% of the time a wall post will have something good in them, versus the nonsense that we can get in the regular paragraph posts. (I'm not awful I guess in terms of quoting hundreds of wall posts but generally they give good analysis.)

Anyway, at this last stage I'm likely planning on an Anita lynch at the end of today. My thoughts haven't massively changed yet on lots, but as a few of you said I want more activity from Kylan and Rodman, considering their activity is basically non-existent.
I'll pop on tonight for a bit to maybe look at some past posts from people and see if my mind changes at all, but expect a Anita lynch from me.


TL;DR for example
Paragraph 1: im going to keep wallposting
Paragraph 2: i want to lynch anita and i want more activity from the inactive people

A lot of his posts are like this, mediocre ideas drawn out over several paragraphs. It's major filler and tbh i really think he could flip scum.
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:43 pm
 
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At this point with so many town and only 1 scum Rhyanna F. & Penelope C. are locktown to me until suggested otherwise by lynching simultaneous town. Both impress with how dedicated they've been and the way they both pursue reads while looking at the game as a whole suggests good town.

Carl G. hasn't actually done much this game. He posts infrequently and a lot of the time they're huge. You can sift through these and pick out a point or two but the rest is generally bullshit. He reacts hard to any pressure and needs a chill pill at times imo. The only people under pressure in this game would be the one scum left with so many town.
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:35 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.


This. He acknowledges that RVS is "just usual day 1 meta." yet complains about it and asks for reasoning when the game literally just started. Now usually this is NAI but in regards to the D1 scumflip it makes him look a lot worse imo.
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:14 pm
 
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Rhyanna F. wrote:sanpei got killed what
i guess they were trying to frame rodman?

didn't expect to be alive but ill catch up on everything soon


idk how to multiquote but this post and the one before it sounds sooo fake
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:28 pm
 
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hi i've read over everything

Lynch Carl G.
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:07 pm
 
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I haven't got much new to contribute from my last post, and since PJ went ahead and posted his - albeit thin - Horatio iso, I'd like to quickly refute Carl's most recent post.
Carl G. wrote:@Penelope:
if its any consolation, i just simply could not get on at deadline like i thought and didnt lynch in time. still dont quite understand how the me not lynching her even though i had a pretty good explanation of my stance on Anita makes me a weak scum lean though. could you elaborate on that please?

also it's not like your argument is very valid in the first place considering the bullshit you can see in your past posts. lemme break down my thoughts for everyone.

fair enough. At least half of game isn't gonna be on the Anita wagon, be it for activity, didn't want to end day prematurely, or because you thought someone else was scum. Happens.
Carl G. wrote:
Penelope C. wrote:.....(blah blah blah wall post blah blah blah)
It's taken longer to type this post than I anticipated, so I can't stay online for too long at the moment. But for the time being, I'm going to lynch Anita B.
........

right so first of all penelope goes ahead and lynches anita. gives a pretty bulky reasoning behind it, doesnt seem that suspicious. this puts anita at L-1, which is sort of important.
Penelope C. wrote:Incoming reads post. The first two are based on my scumreading Anita, so obviously if she turns out to not be scum their relevance drops to zero

I have a slight townread on Professor Jacuzzi at the moment, in part because I scumread Anita B. and seriously doubt that scum would name their partner like that (if this is the case, it's some pretty heavy WIFOM). According to Rhyanna F. their interactions have seemed "off," so I wouldn't mind examples of this.

One thing I thought I'd never say is that I have a strong neutral read on someone, but that's how I'd describe my feelings towards Manning P.-not only because he's done very little but because I'm not sure if he genuinely plans on weighing Anita's defense or if he's postponing a lynch on a potential scumbuddy. (This is assuming that Anita is scum, and I currently read her as such for reasons I mentioned above.)

I have a townread on Sanpei S. right now because of the reasoning behind things like "Scum would try to defend themselves either way," which I had been interpreting as filler until Sanpei explained it. Albeit, Anita has since gone on to defend themselves. Well, it's actually just a posting of reads, but at least it's an effort at contributing. I also want to hear the defense Manning P. is waiting for, but I don't know if it's actually coming since Anita only said she would be posting more reads.

I've seen The Rodman online a couple of times since his last post, so what's with not posting anything? Just because people called someone out on calling you out, it doesn't grant you a free pass to watch from the sidelines and hope nobody notices.

I'd also like for Kylan R. to appear and contribute, but I don't know if he's actually been online or not.

Because I don't want to come online later to find that someone has quickhammered with BS reasoning (didn't realize my vote was putting Anita at L-1) and also because a part of me does want to see if Anita offers any valid defense, I'm going to unlynch Anita B. for now.

we now have this beauty of a post, where penelope goes ahead and gives us some reads. not necessarily important, but more just the last paragraph. i just dont understand why someone who gave such a detailed reason and post to go ahead and lynch anita would even retract at l-1. scum simply wouldn't 'quickhammer' as penelope puts it on day 1, it would just make them look scummy, and its just idiotic that she would even consider it. i honestly dont like this reasoning at all, and its just weird the way she puts it. seems like a shitty pass at just retracting cause l-1 (and possible scum wanting to just get off their partner, but probably less so). i dont even think that anyone was gonna lynch her until the last day. we still had like a bit over a day left until the deadline and it just seems ridiculous to consider that someone would hammer and stop all the possible day 1 discussion from happening.

This is something I just flat disagree with. Pulling back from L-1 makes it so that it takes convincing another two folks' votes to end day, and is the safe play to ensure discussion continues for the maximum amount of time. Not only scum can lynch at L-1, town can too, because they're just that confident in the lynch, and don't think discussion will help any more. While that sort of town reasoning is wrong and a bad play, I wouldn't assume that town is smart and will always play right? This is the bulk of what I wanted to say, but I'm gonna give reactions to the rest of your post as well, and this may become an iso. We'll see.

Carl G. wrote:may i also just emphasise the fact that her lynch had a lot of basis behind it by the fact that she says:
Penelope C. wrote:Starting with the second thing I mentioned earlier, I would like to point out that I did have my own reasons for lynching Anita, namely that the two people she’d asked to speak were someone with a seemingly RVS vote on her and an active player as opposed not people who haven’t even been playing the game (aside from the one with the RVS vote). This is also a portion of the rest I wanted to say in response to Anita’s post.

Since my earlier post, a part of me has developed that wants to believe the “Why would I make myself so obvious?”, though I’m still acknowledging the chance of it being WIFOM. The only reason I want to believe it is because it makes actual sense, but I also don’t see why town would filler like that or ask for more from someone who was already contributing.
....

as she says in the first paragraph "I did have my own reasons for lynching Anita". ie 'i didnt RVS and retracted even though i emphasised that i had a strong scum lean on her throughout all my posts up to just before this point'.

lemme also just highlight the second part. i get its wifom and therefore isnt really useful to gain a pov, but she basically says the wifom that anita gave is making her think that she's possibly towny as a result of being so active. quite honestly doubt that considering the bulk of stuff up to that point in the game, but i'd also love to hear why she thinks otherwise.

Asks for clarification in a roundabout sort of way, and honestly I had to read your second paragraph a few times to fully understand. Brings up a good point about how Penelope wanted to give the Town!Activity read vs the Scum!Filler read, and I would like to see Penelope's counter to this. I've been getting heavy vibrations from Penelope's posts, but I wouldn't call her scummy quite yet. Carl leans null, no iso unless y'all want one.
by Kylan R.
on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:45 pm
 
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Topic: Game 29: Guess Who?
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Game 29: Guess Who?

Okay so PJ's posts in Page 1 are memes, with an activity pressure on Ian. No read, since memes are dreams memes, and it was pregame.

Professor Jacuzzi wrote:
Penelope C. wrote:
Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.


That's just it-usual day 1 meta. That doesn't make it inherently bad. That being said...

Lynch Professor Jacuzzi, because using "Speak up, please" as a reason for a lynch when you're the fourth game-related post seems weird.

Are you really lynching me because one of my posts seemed "weird"? That's seriously vague, elaborate please.

Anita B. wrote:
Can confirm I'm Mafia with professor jacuzzi


It's a good thing you're cute....


This is where he acknowledges Anita's self announcement (which I'm p sure was in response to my early read and last post of the day). Also deflects Penelope's gut read, which I can't blame him for, but then she explains, and PJ doesn't continue the dialogue. Penelope eventually drops the PJ lynch in favor of Anita, but I can't see any reason why, beyond Penelope's "rip my new playing style and typing ability" half comment.

On the topic of Penelope, you strike me as someone either incredibly out of practice playing mafia, or trying to seem as someone out of practice. But this is a PJ iso, so moving on

This is PJ's wallpost against Anita, after he unlynched Ian because "it was a rand"
Professor Jacuzzi wrote:

Okay Anita has been acting really weird today to be honest and I wouldn't mind a lynch on them. Looking through their posts I see a lot of filler and not actually a lot of scumhunting.
Anita B. wrote:Hello folks! Now that we've started, I figure we can just do this properly, after the usual d1 Bs ofc.

So I'd like to see what everyone's thoughts on me lynching Horatio A or Penelope C?

I know others have already pointed this out, but this is just really strange. Asking for thoughts on whether to lynch someone or not is just filler when you can go ahead and do it and see how people react. Particularly when it was still early on in the day and no one had any actual reads.

Hopping on the "That's odd" wagon late, this feels less like "Yes, this is strange" and more "I agree! strange! yes!" in a hopes of fitting in.

Professor Jacuzzi wrote:
Anita B. wrote:
Sanpei S. wrote:You don't just ask us our thoughts on you lynching people.

You lynch them, and then see what we think. God.

Unlynch Professor Jacuzzi, Lynch Anita B.


Asking us to "approve" your lynch seems like a scummy thing to do, no? It's as though you're mafia asking town what to do so you can try to fit in better.


Can confirm I'm Mafia with professor jacuzzi

Lynch Penelope C

Someone brings up some valid concerns about you... and you just react by claiming scum. That's just trolly and unhelpful.

PJ disregards the part where she claims scum with someone, calls my fairly out of the blue read valid, and continues with the "That's odd" wagon.

Professor Jacuzzi wrote:
Anita B. wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:
Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.


My reasoning is that Anita is clearly mafia

Anita B. wrote:Hello folks! Now that we've started, I figure we can just do this properly, after the usual d1 Bs ofc.

So I'd like to see what everyone's thoughts on me lynching Horatio A or Penelope C?


Both of those lynches are fine, but I think lynching Anita B. is a better lynch over those two.


Same

Completely filler and all it did was add to their postcount.
Anita B. wrote:Cool, gn everyone!

More filler.
Anita B. wrote:
Ian S. wrote:Now that I have seen the monstrosity that is my picture, time to post reads, and oh so many interesting things I have seen.


Dude your picture is amazing.
Also Professor Jacuzzi can you come back pls

And just as they were starting to develop actual scumreads and make serious posts, they go and say this.

I know that Anita has been one of the most active posters so far, but if you discount the filler and poor reasoning, they actually haven't said that much. To me, they look like they're just trying to seem active.

Lynch Anita B.

Brings up all the little things about Anita that did end up adding to Anita being scum, and caps it all off with essentially 'Anita is scum because of the massive amounts of filler she's said' which is a pretty good conclusion to come to, except didn't Horatio come to the same conclusion first? REREAD: Horatio posted his wallread against Anita three hours after PJ did. That's my fault. This point is null, and PJ is townier because of it. This iso is now making me think of PJ as town rather than scum, but I'll post the rest of my written reads And then
Professor Jacuzzi wrote:(That's Anita at L-1, could we please announce it when we're putting someone at L-1 in the future?)

Anyway, I also find Penelope's bandwagoning fairly scummy. I've read through her post, but to me it just looks like she regurgitated reasons others had already brought up.

Would like to hear some reads from Kylan so far. He's said two things all game and both have been irrelevant.

PJ then finds fault in Penelope for doing exactly what he just did. Town point in trying to make sure we all know when L-1 is, but then when he has someone (Penelope) agreeing with what he says, he finds her scummy. And then yeah, my activity. No defense from me, I was inactive D1.
Rhyanna F. wrote:
Professor Jacuzzi wrote:
Rhyanna F. wrote:if anita is mafia i think her partner is professor jacuzi
i will explain if it is relevant but i dont think its needed otherwise

Care to explain why? It's a little strange to just go ahead and post who you think the scumpartners are without giving any reasons.

the interactions between the two of you have seemed off, and when i read your latest post it felt like you were forcing the reasoning
its something with very iffy reasoning rn which is why im not pursuing it
i did want to bring it up in case other people were also seeing the same thing since i was unsure

I'm seeing the same thing, and there was another post floating out there, where someone was ripping Rodman for thinking scum would claim their partner in "this kind of set up" when that's exactly what someone would do to draw attention off of your partner in a flip. It's WIFOM, compounded with Anita's claim and your interactions, Lynch Professor Jacuzzi is a sound move. Pre-emptive edit: not lynching PJ, he's actually fairly townie.
Professor Jacuzzi wrote:Carl/Sanpei/Penelope/Rhyanna/Manning all look like town to me. They've all been pretty active and pushed some good ideas. I'd like a lynch on Horatio/Rodman today. Neither of them have said much, Rodman in particular hasn't contributed at all and I made a post about Horatio a bit back.

To me, Kylan looks like he needs a sub, so I'm gonna hold off on giving any reads there for now. Dunno about Ian, will look into his posts a bit further when I have more time.

lynch the rodman

Though the rodman lynch got pulled quickly bc both he and I were inactive D1, the read on Horatio I haven't seen. You talked about Anita at length, but nothing on Horatio. Sorry pal, this one's just a flat lie, making both of your scum reads empty. Reread: still no Horatio post, but that's something I'd like to see. I'll make it myself tomorrow, but I won't be on that much for the rest of the night
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:26 pm
 
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Topic: Game 29: Guess Who?
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Game 29: Guess Who?

Existence and activity at an all time low. I hopped on an hour after D1 ended, and the Anita flip was as obvious as they come. Activity lynches would make sense if subs didn't exist, but seeing as how they do, neither me or Rodman really should be on the block.

PJ should receive the lynch today simply because of the opening statement from scum, being a self claim. I'm gonna do an iso as my next post, as well as talk about any questions directed towards me
by Kylan R.
on Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:43 pm
 
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Topic: Game 29: Guess Who?
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Game 29: Guess Who?

Anyways Anita and Professor for early scum team.

Lynch Professor Jacuzzi for being a selfquoting scumbag with a much more prophetic beard than I.
by Kylan R.
on Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:16 pm
 
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Topic: Game 29: Guess Who?
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