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Revamp points system imo y/y

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Remind me why Infernando was obtown to you?

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Can confirm was a farce.

Caroline MVP was deserved imo, only person who actually made a good case on scum with reasons other than tone and interactions, which made me NK you instead of trying to mindgame

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Also >>>>>10 point infenando what the actual heck.

I don't see how Infernando started the chain of events leading to my lynch though, as far as I can see Caroline would have eventually weighted the scales back on me later.

Also forgot to ask but Caroline, was protecting Clara so towny to you that Infernando was such a major TR? Why did you discount the possibility of whiteknight?

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Anima was the most productive by far.

Caro I need you to teach me your dazzling skills once reveals happen oml

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Also for those interested in what happened in scumchat:

Emmy:
"What did I just do.

WHAT DID I JUST DO.

We should kill Halsey. He's got fruit left with which he can clear himself, so at the very least it's unlikely analyzing his kill will about to much (AND FRANKLY HE'S ABOUT TO WRECK US)"

Kimmy:
"Oh my fuck. We're screwed. On so many levels.

Kill Halsey

Clara is dead. Which makes me scum because I literally announced it. We need to somehow engineer a push on Infernando. It's our only hope, there's no way else. I hoped it wouldn't come down to this but we'll need to pull out all the stops. This is probably the worst of my envisioned circumstances that I was talking about but we at least still have an out in Infernando. Clara scumreading them and general scumminess is unfriendly to them. Halsey was the only one who believed in fruit cleans and hes dead.

So we have 4 possible ways to win. Our 4 outs is to bus you and kill Caro, leaving me in a 1v2 with Cherry, who I think I can persuade to TR me.

The second one is to bus me and kill Infernando, going 1v1 with Caro and letting Cherry kingmaker. (Killing Cherry is suicide because Caro and Infernando both SR you.)

The third one is to somehow, by one way or another, lynch Infernando today.

The fourth one is to bus me, and kill Caro and hope Cherry doesn't believe in the townleader scum theory enough to lynch you > Infernando (or maybe WIFOM saying you wouldnt make yourself a sitting duck in LyLo)

Out of all the possible ways, likely bussing me is the most likely to happen, followed by bussing you or winning the game.

So when Day starts, take a general look at the game. If you predict I'm about to be lynched, go all in on me. Don't hold back, go into some psychotic tunnel and convince people to hammer as early as possible. Maybe don't post for a while so you can had an excuse saying you didn't see previous posts and is acting on your own reads.

If for some miraculous reason they decide to not lynch me, like if they have some hesitance, wait for me to post. I'll try to derail the topic off "Is Kimmy Scum", hopefully by brushing Clara off for a while and then casing Infernando. If they're convinced, we try to lynch Infernando/bus you, if not psychotically tunnel me.

We bus you if 1. You're universally scumread 2. Caroline obv-towns themselves after Halsey's death, 3. Cherry expresses a TR on me and 4. Infernando still scumreads you

Now we can only hope for the best."

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"how we got there doesn't matter because the point is I called the scum team before anyone else. yes, yes many people thought kimmy and emmy were scummy on their own but if i didn't push for both of them then its likely your ideas may have never crossed paths"

Oh but it matters. This is something I always say to people and I always emphasize it. Mafia is a 2-part game (as Town): "Find scum, and convince people that you're town and that you found scum" You accomplished the first, but not the second. I'll give you credit for finding us out, but from your PoV, we were basically confed to be scum to you and you didn't really fulfill the second requirement. Cherry lynched me based on my interactions with Emmy, rather than the case you made on me, if you read the post in which they lynched me.

Also I still don't think you've read my posts which slightly triggers me.

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I was salty when Halsey brought up the points. Your push was basically rephrasing of what Caroline said, I ain't giving you credit for that shit .-.

Gonna concede that I made a bad choice leaving you alive though since the fruit thing + screwy EoD with Emmy.

Also even though the game has ended I still (even as scum) disagree with your points, no where in the game was I salty when making arguments as you said and nowhere did I try to sweep YOUR arguments under the rug (I tried to sweep Halsey and Caro under the rug though).

Interactions are always my downfall as scum sadly, this is why I like roles like Serial Killers > TeamScum.

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dumb fruit *mumble grumble*

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NGL got a little pissed when Halsey cleaned Infernando with fruit because it was just luck that it happened that way

What difference did the subs make?

Cherry if I killed Infernando would you have lynched Caro?

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So literally I couldn't push Infernando and Clara because of external factors?

That just makes me salty ;-;

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Going to eat brb

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Clara dismissed it too no?

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Any form of feedback is nice to me n_n. Also was Infernando only so successful because if the fruit?

You mean the townleader is scum one? I actually supported it during Day 3 if you didn't see >.>

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Why was I scum again? Would like some post game feedback to annihilate you all in Game 33

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Some food for thought:

If I didn't have such screwy interactions with Emmy, would you have lynched me in LyLo?
If I killed Cherry instead of Caroline, will you (Caroline) still kill me?

Also my hydra mate did nothing smh.

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Dammit interactions!!

Also Infernando not to be salty or mean or anything, your arguments were actually bullshit, even if I were town. I fucked up the Emmy interactions though ;;

Also our scumchat Night 4 was hilarious because me and Emmy were like "FUUUUUCK"

Good Game, activity was decent, I had fun trying to BS Emmy interactions

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Kimmy S. wrote:they said "Jeremiah flipped town and I like their reads" that was the largest explanation given so far iirc.

Kimmy S. wrote:Can I take some post space to say that every read on Infernando as Town for "Too scummy to be scum" is god damn worthless because this reasoning makes no goddamn sense. If you're going to give players a pass for being excessively scummy I swear I'll just lurk every other day every other game I play and quote this on all of you after you guys are revealed.

Kimmy erasing Infernando's cases off the face of the earth so we can move on to lynching them:

OK so there's a recurring theme in Infernando. They make points about people, but more importantly, They never picks them back up. The responses to their points go ignored, and points are just restated or rephrased. Town will make a real case. This is scum shading things, just trying to force a Emmy/Kimmy team onto the town. Why would Scum force a scumteam involving their scumbuddies? Because it seems ever more real when one of the members is scum. Besides, only one more Town needs to be lynched for a scum win. They accuse me of trying to force things through, trying to speed game up, but this is the guy who capslocks "Kimmy/Emmy scum" and tries to force it through with shade and bs and a whole bunch of other things.

Infernando if you are infact capable of reading responses to your posts and looking at posts other than posts that further your agenda please prove it to me. Otherwise, this is (as what Clara said to me) cherry picking, in it's real definition.

Infernando G. wrote:Wow Kimmy back at it again with those points u bring up but don't elaborate. Not everything you said but I'll point them out. I have class in a few minutes so have to go rn but I will be back in 6 hours so further prove ur scumminess.

Kimmy S. wrote:
Infernando G. wrote:points u bring up but don't elaborate.

lemme correct you. points I bring up but you don't read

Kimmy S. wrote:Oh cool Infernando has been writing more stuff I can destroy.

Re: Caroline, the Clara was mostly because they were very.... how do I put it.... they had a lack of presence. Like they would do things, but they weren't very impactful, at least to me, over the span of the game. And I picked up when Clara lynched me because I was beginning to case them and then boom, tried to scare me off the vote, which pinged me majorly.

Infernando G. wrote:ok I'm back

And awww Cherry you're so nice even when u disagree with something. Way to make anon a safe comfortable place where views can be heard. I am proud! Unlike the meanie Kimmy who's too salty to function smh

Anywayyy In the following posts I will prove where Kimmy is wrong with his reads and explain to you guys why no matter what you think or where u are right now that Emmy is the best lynch for today.

"too salty to function"

I'm calmly quoting and pointing out the flaws in your posts. Way to discredit.

Also weren't you deadset on lynching me the whole day then you suddenly pull off and heap on the weaker one?

Infernando G. wrote:Before that: I know life is unpredictable and whatnot but why has Emmy been so incredibly dead TODAY as compared to the others. Like today is the most important day to be active. Seems sketch.

Now this is stretching things. They've already stated they will be inactive, and you shade them for it. How would you find it sketchy when they have a valid reason? Your slot was inactive for 3 whole days dammit.

Cherry P. wrote:
Infernando G. wrote:Ik I wasnt nailing her down for it. I said "life is unpredictable". I just said seems kinda sketch. Didn't make that into a whole big thing

Okay can u elaborate. I want to see your reasons.

kimmy: gut tr, i like his responses to scummy actions, not excessively opportunistic, defenses are townie
caroline: good posts, i like her reasoning, im struggling between townreading her and poe-scumreading her
infernando: v scummy behavior previously e.g. filler/tunnel/not explaining reasoning, still tunneling a bit tbh, emmy/infernando scumteam doesnt make logical sense to me but who knows it could be possible
posts have town feel to them, gut tr
emmy: erratic behavior, especially wrt kimmy/clara, last min change does make probability of emmy/kimmy scumteam higher, didnt really like her defenses, hasnt named anyone who would be scum aside from you

Infernando G. wrote:
2. If you're saying the chance of two town leaders being scum is really small then u need to stop living under a rock and look around you. Almost every mafia sweep in anon is when atleast two of the three scum were very controlling figures. At this point in the game I don't think there even are town leaders with so few people so idk why this is still a point u have to make.

I thought he was saying that there was no reason that two town leaders couldnt be scum?

Cherry, so you basically said that Infernando has "v scummy behavior previously e.g. filler/tunnel/not explaining reasoning, still tunneling a bit tbh" yet you say their posts have a town feel to it. What about this scummy behavior do you feel will come from Town? I don't see any world where Infernando isn't scum here.

I'm down lynching between Emmy/Infernando today, preferably Infernando since Emmy can't come on down and actually prove their scum/town while Infernando has basically scumclaimed to me. Also I missed one of their posts lemme go back and requote.

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lemme put it out here first that they've been relying on discrediting a lot in D5 before I go quote stuff.

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My "Modify" button wasn't working so lemme make a new post.

Cherry, it's in virtually every post of my D4 ISO, I can pull up some of the more major ones

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Infernando G. wrote:Ive already seen that and you didn't bring up the same point i did. Im talking about with Caroline's idea of why I'm town because of the Clara and Emmy thing you wouldnt have been able to convince her otherwise so u didn't try to risk it and played it safe by killing her off

I don't think that's a good point, it's purely tonal and it doesn't have any form of logic at all in it, which I value lower than hard reasoning. Also regarding analysing the night-kill, you saying this clearly means you haven't read the post even if you've seen it.

Infernando G. wrote:I'm gonna reply in parts cause I hate making super long posts. I think it demotivates other people from reading

1. Yes except there is like zero reason for me to "bus" her for as long as I have been pushing for her lynch. Ive been calling her out as scum even before she became scummy. And in a theme with only two scum bussing your partner unless they're really scummy is very unlikely. Not to mention it would also only work if the person bussing is super town cause it would add to them being OP town leader but I'm not that either so I wouldnt have any reason to bus Emmy for as long as I did.
Your plays with Emmy on the other hand are faaaar more likely with u subtly calling her out for being scum but refusing to lynch her and playing it off as thinking i was scummier even after Caroline was pretty much confirmed town. Well not confirmed town but it was confirmed that both me and Caroline weren't scum but yeah.

Uhm no? You started calling them out on scum after Halsey suggested his theory of scum townleader and Caro started obvtowning, it was pretty clear that if the theory held up, Emmy would be the prime candidate to be lynched. You saw this coming and bussed. Also, bussing not only works when you're already super towny, in which case bussing is hardly necessary, but when you're scummy and you need something to springboard you to look towny. Caroline was only confirmed not to be scum when they died, which is after Emmy's flip. And yes, you were far scummier in my eyes, which I've cased you over and over regarding it while Emmy was just general scumminess + PoE.

Infernando G. wrote:2. Ok Kimmy the Dummy u didn't understand what I meant by emotional appeal so let me explain. I'm not referring to your argument itself I'm talking about the extra stuff u add on to arguments that try to guilt trip town into listening to u cause they're afraid of failing. Caroline surely didn't fall for it but u know that its been working on Cherry so thats what u do. Your argument and this are completely different things but if you're asking me to ignore the fact that you're trying to hide the flaws in your case by calling me out for being stupid and talking about how sad it would be "to lose to me" or whatever youve said then I cannot because thats very scummy of u to sweep it under the rug like that.

I never said you were stupid. This is a major discredit on your part. I said there were "good and less-good" people. Cherry never showed signs of being guilt tripped until now, which is AFTER Caroline was killed, which invalidates your whole point of me keeping Cherry alive for that. Also, although yes I have AtE sprinkled in my cases here and there, I didn't make it one of my major points and my main arguments on you are the focal point of my posts. If you're going to call my arguments flawed, point out exactly where it's flawed please. I never said it was sad to lose to you, I can bring up exactly what I said if you wanted to, but it was Cherry themselves who said they were scared of losing to you.

Infernando G. wrote:3. Ok first of all, fite me in reveals call then we'll see who the idiot is hmph
and everything youve said here has like no added importance on what I've said. You just said it gives us both motivation to kill Caroline but u didn't say anything about my point with Caroline town reading me for a very specific reason that I will further explain when I discuss my towniness

Again, I never made a personal attack on you this whole game at all. I've only ever been attacking your argument. Even my AtE was directed towards Cherry/Caroline's arguments. It has no added importance because your points weren't even important to begin with.

Infernando G. wrote:As for the last thing:

There were good points and once again you're not the judge of if its good or not because I personally think all ur points are garbage but that doesn't make them does it Mr.Kimmy Kardashian?

Aaaaand u brought up that point, yes but u obviously said it from your side but I'm saying it from my side which is important for cherry to hear both so its not that i didn't read your post I'm explaining the reasons behind this post as to why it makes u more likely to be scum than me smh

There were good points which I refuted and you never came back to touch, hence making them dead points. I indeed am not the judge of whether it's good, I refute all of your arguments unconditionally. For every one of your arguments you've made against me, you can quote a post and I can quote one of me refuting it. If you think my points are garbage, then do what I'm doing and actually refute them properly rather than go on with your discredit.

There were many points I've said from my point of view, but it's important to account for the other's point of view when making an argument because there are objective statements in there that you cannot ignore if you want to refute the point and counter case me.

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Kimmy S. wrote:
Cherry P. wrote:if kimmy can provide a reason that infernando would kill caroline after she repeatedly expressed that she felt infernando was town and the scumteam was emmy/kimmy then id consider an infernando lynch

I'm pretty sure it's because of this very reason. i.e your reasoning of Caro dying = me!scum. As scum, Infernando killing me would definitely alert you to something wrong, won't it? And if you died, Caroline would be alerted as well.

This is basically the middle ground, me as scum killing Infernando/Infernando as scum killing me is the easiest move, but that alerts you. Infernando as scum killing Cherry also sets up perfectly since Caro TRs me, but that definitely will look suspicious to Caro. Me as scum killing Cherry would be incredibly risky, but can potentially pay off. Cherry v Me v Infernando isn't too bad for Infernando, since note that you TR them as well.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see what Infernando said they had on me EoD4 but hammered Emmy before they said it.

BTW Cherry as scum 100% deserves win here so...
Vote Infernando

lemme put this here so you have absolutely no reason not to see it.

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Cherry P. wrote:other cherry what r u thinkin right now and why
im still not 100% on which way im gonna go

I think this can go in your QT

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zzz Infernando's whole justification about his arguments basically forces us to assume he's town, which I've already said I dislike AT DAY 1 TO HALSEY, he's basically saying that my rebuttals don't matter, rather than actually rebutting it. But just for completions' sake, I'm going to respond to these:

Infernando G. wrote:But as for my list. I might be missing things that ill add on to later but this is off the top of my head

Why Kimmy is scum:

1. Emmy+Kimmy scum team makes more sense than Emmy+Anyone at this point. The reasons behind this have already been discussed but I think this holds a lot of weightage considering where we're at in the game

Which is why you kept me alive at LyLo? I don't like WIFOM but what Emmy was doing could have not buddying and rather trying to implicate a town. You + Emmy works too, bussing a pretty scummy scummate isn't unheard of.

2. A lot of his arguments against me or even the ones where he tries to prove himself innocent have been emotional appeal and he is literally doing this so Cherry will think things like she thought of "Ill probably just lynch infernando because i couldn't forgive myself if I lose to an Infernando scum." Like yes, I understand Im not the best anon player but do u not realize that he literally says all those things he does about town being stupid and ignoring him JUST so you think that?

Every argument I've made against you is logical in nature. The emotional appeal is only the icing on the cake since logic apparently does not get through to logic-less people. Using your own logic, this argument of yours is emotional appeal, but I'm still trying to respond to it in a logical fashion. If you truly want to beat my arguments, go back and fight them please rather than just call them emotional appeal.

3. Caroline's death. Now I understand that this is speculation but hear me out here. Pretty much all of yesterday Cherry was very consistent with her Kimmy town read. Like even when Caroline and I brought up logical reasons for him being scum Cherry still stuck very strongly with her town reading claiming she "can't shake that kimmy is town". So this definitely gives Kimmy motive to keep Cherry alive because to him Caroline brought up more logical points against him than me so if she's out of the picture then its a easy win for him with Cherry more on his side and me not being able to convey my points or whatever not to mention he could constantly guilt trip Cherry and say "do u want to lose to the idiot" WHICH I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT AND U ALL WILL SEE ONE DAY

Caroline's death. Now I understand you're speculating but let me fight you here. Pretty much all of yesterday, Cherry was going on about how you and me were TvT, even when I brought up points against you and Caroline brought up points against me (I'm not counting your points because I rebutted all of them), Cherry insisted we were both Town, claiming they thought both of us were overtunnelling each other. This gives BOTH of us motivation to keep them alive, because one of us killing the other will make is seem too easy for Cherry to lynch Caroline (I already made a post analysing the night kill, so I'll skip everything else here). I have not guilt-tripped Cherry a single time so far, their posting to themselves about not wanting to lose to Infernando!Scum and I haven't pressed that yet. I'm still sticking to logical arguments and will keep using it until you either 1. Manage to rebut them or 2. I've run out of arguments to make or 3. I'm out of patience. I don't believe anyone AJ invites to anon is an idiot, but there are certainly good players and less-good players.

I feel like there are more reasons that I'll look through and add on as I find them but this is what i can think og off the top of my head. As u can tell a lot of his scumminess doesn't have to do with his behavior which is why i think Cherry has a hard time seeing it but when u look at the overall picture it all falls into place and makes sense that only Kimmy could be scum after all these things have happened.

As you can see, both the larger picture and the smaller picture can point to scumfernando, while you need to kinda stretch it a bit to see me as scum. You calling me scummy does not fix your own scumminess.

Ill make another post with all the reasons I can't be scum soon

I'll be waiting

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Infernando G. wrote:Plus i forgot to mention Kimmy is less likely to have killed Cherry and kept Caroline alive and attempt to frame me BECAUSE Caroline brought up a really good point of why I'm town and he knew he couldn't play that off on the last day. If she didn't then I think it would be likely that Kimmy would have killed Cherry and tried to frame me.

1. There was no good point pls.
2. I've said this already (and this is further proof of you having not read my posts) about what are the possible nightkills, and why this kill can be performed by either of us.

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Cherry P. wrote:see the thing is, I specifically made sure to specify that i townread you and "didnt know who scum was" (e.g. believed it was between infernando/caroline) so that the only scenario I stay alive is you as scum.
I guess the argument you make is correct in that infernando as scum keeping caroline alive implicates him p easily, but him keeping me in lylo when ive said multiple times i tr you over him seems ridiculous to me.
the argument you bring up is wifom as well which tilts me a bit because i hate wifom with a burning passion DX
a couple things:
i feel like wrt infernando you've been appealing to emotion a lot e.g. "its not fair that he gets to be townread because he's too scummy" (which neither me nor caro was doing btw) and "it's not fair to those who put in effort" like ???
you also said "infernando i'm eating your ass tomorrow" which is not only lewd but also doesnt even include the possibility that emmy isnt scum. both caroline/infernando displayed similar behavior, BUT they were both certain of emmy!scum while you said that it was only a possibility. Why exactly were you so confident that there would be a next day, then? as someone who had similar reads as you, i wasn't certain that there would be a next day (and my posts reflected this).

on the flipside infernando and emmy have actually been going at one another THE ENTIRE FKING GAME which could, for all i know, be a full long-con bussing bullshit. that's tripping me out a good amount.

i'd like to hear what infernando has to say wrt you on eod4, although I doubt the argument is going to be good based off of his previous arguments lol

You said you townread me and Infernando. You said you townread us both. I remember there being a post where you said you townread us both and I don't recall you ever saying you townread me over him.

You can ignore the WIFOM if you want to, everything I've made vs Infernando stands.

Uh, you guys were townreading him still. You said it was something to do with tone which I honestly didn't understand but I left alone until now. But Caroline's case (as far as I remember) was something to do about scum not showing this many textbook scumtells and how they would be more self-conscious etc. Also, the tone argument was something about protesting vs the Clara lynch, which makes me wonder if you've accounted for the possibility of white-knighting, when he knows his scumbuddy will shift back on Clara to both implicate me, and make him more credible. Also indeed, I do feel it's unfair as fuck to townread him for capslocking "X is town; Scumbuddy + Y is scum", while i've been trying to stay cool the whole game.

Is lewdness scummy to you?
Also I said it was a possibility, and a really high possibility. You missed the implicated 'if there is a tomorrow'.

Cherry P. wrote:and a kimmy/emmy scumteam makes a ridiculous amount of sense, with emmy's last minute switch to save ur ass and then the fact that she absolutely refused to name anyone other than infernando as scum
whats fucking with me is that infernando vs emmy has been happening for way too long (with rly bad reasoning at the start) for no reason, but i dont understand why you'd bus like that either, or even push for your partner to be lynched continuously
ahhhhhh

Because everyone was backing the Townleader scum thing and it was clear Emmy was going to be lynched eventually. It's easy towncred and the shift was a bonus to make me look scummy.

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Cherry P. wrote:if kimmy can provide a reason that infernando would kill caroline after she repeatedly expressed that she felt infernando was town and the scumteam was emmy/kimmy then id consider an infernando lynch

I'm pretty sure it's because of this very reason. i.e your reasoning of Caro dying = me!scum. As scum, Infernando killing me would definitely alert you to something wrong, won't it? And if you died, Caroline would be alerted as well.

This is basically the middle ground, me as scum killing Infernando/Infernando as scum killing me is the easiest move, but that alerts you. Infernando as scum killing Cherry also sets up perfectly since Caro TRs me, but that definitely will look suspicious to Caro. Me as scum killing Cherry would be incredibly risky, but can potentially pay off. Cherry v Me v Infernando isn't too bad for Infernando, since note that you TR them as well.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see what Infernando said they had on me EoD4 but hammered Emmy before they said it.

BTW Cherry as scum 100% deserves win here so...
Vote Infernando