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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

so are reveals gonna just be here this time or are we doing another call thing for it? was just curious.
by Kayleigh B.
on Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:56 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

town plays were well and truly on point tbh. gj guys, we played well. guess we're not gonna need that reads list I didn't get a chance to post. also really didn't expect a Jenaro/nico scum team, wow, that's an odd pairing. gg all, that was pretty good. now it's time for 20 pages of endgame like pregame
by Kayleigh B.
on Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:46 am
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

ayyye town won Very Happy
by Kayleigh B.
on Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:41 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

by the way I've not had much time to work on my reads list yet so I'll probably sit down tomorrow and deal with it, apologies for not getting it done sooner like I thought.
by Kayleigh B.
on Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:24 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

The Hippie wrote:I think Brutella raised a good point there. Kayleigh literally just called this account out for being "hypocritical", but there is no way that can't happen with hydras.

I'm the only person who's placed a lynch vote right now, so we really need more votes on Kayleigh. :v


im calling you hypocritical because both of you completely ignored my whole rant about how both of your personalities seem to just be complaining about everything and how I apparently am terrible and do nothing since I was away, yet I did more than you guys put together recently. I get that the whole hydra thing sorta makes conflicting opinions common, but you fucking read the post and yet just say oh yeah wouldn't mind that lynch still. Expected a response at least from one part of you. Especially the one I'm currently responding to.

calling you hypocritical doesn't mean that I deserve more lynches lol, i had valid reason to do so considering the ignorance. also no you're not the only guy who placed a lynch. sure youre the only one on me but I'm pretty sure see as 2 or whatever lynches on Jenaro right now is saying that. in what scenario though do we need more votes on me? I'm responding fine to people's queries, I'm not dodging questions and I'm clearly not the main target for today in town. The pressure on me is fine. Would have answered these without the pressure, its not like lynching me would be a good idea today anyway considering the general consensus of the playerbase.


curious also hippie, why the sudden push on me considering that you're basically been edging towards this since the reporter lynch. you basically called me out, remembering this is after I started looking at Jenaro, and have been further highlighting me until today where it all goes tits up and you seem to be down my throat (fair enough considering some of my posts). Honestly would read that as a bit peculiar in relation to this stuff. I mean could be seen as a soft defense in a way. again this theory could just be bs and im probably not in my best frame of mind to go into deep analysis atm but worth sharing.
by Kayleigh B.
on Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:22 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

The Hippie wrote:i guess i dont mind a jenero / nico / kayleigh lynch


The Hippie wrote:
The Hippie wrote:i guess i dont mind a jenero / nico / kayleigh lynch

No really, I'm sure you can be more wishy washy if you really try, partner. Dx


first of all thanks for addressing my call out on the fact that you're being hypocritical. really great to see some quality ignorance from you as usual hippie, great help in solidifying my read on you.

Lacy H. wrote:
Kayleigh B. wrote:Yea... Lacy really fucked up with lynching mirror ash. I honestly don't know what happened there to make mirror ash look scum, but now it makes me rethink Lacy could be scum just a little bit. Anyways i'm going to lynch who i think should have been killed and...

Lynch Jenaro K.


Really... the thought that I could be scum just occurred to you. It's not like my partner had a completely terrible reasoning for his lynch on Mirror Ash. He misunderstood MA's reasoning for attempting to lynch The Hippie. I wont deny that it could look scummy, especially if a scum read was already present. Plus I think he was one of the latter people on the Gemma wagon iirc. It's not my fault I have a terrible partner (sorry but its kinda true, I said earlier that I'd rather have Jenaro lynched) who thinks what Mirror Ash did indicates scum.

I think Jenaro should have died myself, but my partner thought otherwise. It is my fault that I didnt get here in time to change the lynch. But maybe if you were a bit more active, you might have realized why my partner wanted that kill.

yeah I realise the lynch reasoning and stuff now, I was personally sorta indifferent towards it but I was sort of like you more likely to go for a Jenaro lynch. Sorry my partner hasn't read.

However, you have been consistently semi-active. And I realize that activity doesnt really mean shit in this game. But I would like it if you showed up more, help us keep a rough idea of where your head is at all times.

sure I have been doing that and been reading lots, not my fault my partner isn't pulling their weight imo. Have been trying to give good analysis and lots of content when I'm on, apologies if that isn't sufficient. If I don't, I'm usually feeling it's not adequate enough to add something that isn't necessarily a worthwhile point to bring up in reads/discussion/whatever. Will do so though.

You stated earlier that you dont come by and give just one line of text, which is pretty true. However you post so rarely that I struggle to get a solid read on you. I'm going to make another game 15 reference here... It kinda reminds me of Shakuji, and he flipped scum. I'm not calling you scum, but I would like it if you post more.

its not like my content is minimal, im not getting the fact that apparently it's hard to read me when I have tons of stuff to go on, just in big chunks rather than small 1 liners. I could split this up into separate posts but I don't see the point in that if im doing the same thing. Not after a super high post count, I feel that's just faking my real activity.

Mostly, I'm interested in your thoughts on Nico. His activity plummeted after TR's death. I understand that sometimes IRL stuff gets in the way and it could be coincidental. Or it could be an indication that he's trying to stay low and avoid a lynch for now. I feel discussion on this subject would be most useful.

was considering bringing up this whenever I got to reads yeah. His activity has been questionable. I mean he was a top town read day 1 for me personally, he had some really good content and thoughtful discussion points as well as (I think) a fairly active set of partners on the account afaik. The lack of stuff is pretty dire, considering he was one of the more active people. Imo its likely a irl issue or something but I don't see why he's not subbed out at this stage if hat were the case. I mean it's too unlikely that both of them have irl issues or whatever imo and can't go and say a few things like thoughts on a post in a few sentences or whatever. Still feeling a slight town lean myself considering the fact that lurking for scum in this would be a pretty bad move seeing as the whole point is to control town seeing as it's nightless. Even more so now seeing as we only have to lynch one scum. as usual, scum generally do try to be slightly active.

However, feel free to lead discussion on me. This will also be helpful. But actually discuss rather than let what happened yesterday happen again. A lynch with relatively little discussion. Just because we hit a scum doesnt mean that you guys can slack off and not discuss. Now for the interesting part.

sure will cover that in my reads I suppose. I haven't really looked at you much Lacy and I suppose it would be worthwhile to get a perspective on you.

Kayleigh B. wrote:Why the fuck do you guys care about scumteams that much. Realistically scumteams are the worst possible idea to ever be in existence in the game. Scum will be actively trying to not appear as scum for one part, and for the other part, the whole me/ash hypothesis was entirely wrong plus there's the fact that a lot of the playerbase viewed us as town leans. I mean my god did we really have to go through with the mirror lynch there? Lacy did you have to get all opinionated when you kept switching there? Bit silly tbh.

anyway good job you fucks time to lynch jenaro.


First off, let me remind you that there are two people on these accounts. There's another person on your account isnt there? Let me also add that I cant directly talk to the other person on this account... which kinda inhibits our coordination.

yeah I know, personally was hot-headed when I typed this up. I didn't entirely get the change of motive/lynch at the time from you but said above that I sorta get it.

We dont all have the luxury of agreeing with the other person on the account, as was stated before by me.

stated by the majority of the playerbase apparently, good job stating the obvious.

I didnt agree with the Mirror lynch. The other Lacy wanted Mirror killed.We argued and thats why the switch in lynches happened.

The fact of the matter is aj was hosting the official and I thought I could get away with switching the lynch after deadline. I failed, obviously. Aj for some reason is actually smart... weird right?

There was a decent reasoning behind the mirror lynch, as I mentioned earlier in this post, so that's why he was lynched. I dont have to agree with the reasoning, but it was at least valid. You shouldnt try to disregard it and push it off as invalid, especially when a good chunk of the town that voted thought so too. At the very least, the mirror lynch helps solidify some reads and generate new ones. So even though we lost Mirror rather prematurely, we at least have a better idea of who could be scum.

as I said before, wasn't against it, just didn't feel it was the best. Understand the whole reads stuff but yeah I'm still a bit ticked off considering it was mirror and his analysis was good. fair enough though and I'm not gonna argue further bout it, sure you've all heard enough about it.

As for your statement "why do we care about scumteams so much?" There is a valid reason to it. Of course scum arent going to try to look like scum. Unfortunately some people are really bad at being scum. Other times people are really good at being scum (for example Shakuji).

I suppose on that behalf. but considering the huge levels of collaboration that will likely be taking place, I couldn't see a reason why someone would play terribly considering they have a whole other person there to support them/fix issues and back them up. (gj on the tons of shoutouts shakuji btw, found your biggest fan on this post).

So we cant fully rely on our reads. So what if "there's the fact that a lot of the playerbase viewed u as town leans" (and if that's the case, I dont think Mirror would have been lynched) if some people can hide their scummyness well.

on that behalf I was more referring to the fact that many people saying we're a scumteam was a bit stupid seeing as the majority of reads currently about at that point were going in the direction of not that. I get that scum could play super townie, wasn't arguing against that. Just obviously wasn't clear enough on that behalf.

The thing they cant hide as well are the hints and indications of buddying. Agreeing on little things can make two people look like scum. Jenaro agreed with TR Day 1 on some things, and that is one reason why i think Jenaro could be scum.

Chainsaw defense is another thing that exists. Trying to protect your teammate by attacking the person who is leading a lynch on your partner in an attempt to save them. There was no obvious chainsaw defense, of course, but there is the fact that people could try to toss the lynch off their partner to possibly save them. That's the rationale behind the MA lynch (which was kinda null since this also doesnt occur often in forum games)

was thinking about this when I saw the hippie lynch btw. personally feeling like it could be viewed as a bit of a chainsaw defense. Not entirely but it has aspects of it all. It's not like he's jumping down my throat at all, but his evidence is just off the mark, as I touched upon when I brought up the whole decisive thing last post. I get the whole one partner being okay and stuff, and I'm not sure if the 2nd is purely baiting reactions or is just being dumb as fuck, but still, questionable from my POV.

By interpretting how players interact with each other, you can get a rough feel as for who may be scum together. It helps basically get rid of the issues that can be created when the mafia is really good. Think of it like say charizard from server mafia. He hides his scummyness well, and individually he could be unstoppable, but you can find his flaws based on his partners, and how closely he is aligned with them. Of course, scumteams analysis arent the ultimate basis on why we lynch someone, their individual actions and the precedent of these actions also yield a high importance in a lynch, but they do tend to help a lot.

Plus all information we can have, the better chance we have of getting the last mafia. This is why I am specifically asking for discussion. I also want people to look back to before the TR lynch to see if anyone has had any significant changes, whether it be in activity or in how they act towards one another. ANY difference should be noted so we can discuss this.

Can we also discuss Kayleigh and Nico, like I said yesterday, guys?

Also to my other personality: That was not the optimal lynch. Just because you got The Reporter right does not mean that all your reads will be spot on. Think more about whats going on before deciding a lynch. Smh.

TL;dr Part I: I dont care if I wrote an essay on this. Read it. I stated information that could be useful in here. Seriously dont be lazy. Dont just scroll down to the bottom, else you might miss something crucial.




Tl;dr Part II: I like cake, read above...




Tl;dr part III: SERIOUSLY?! Read above... gosh.


Not much else to say. Think I covered mostly everything you were talking about. Probably will bother myself and do some reads soon. Think now would be a good time for a lot of people considering lots has happened and all.

Brutella I think I covered most of your qualms in my post btw, really cba doing more but if you need more info based on that stuff feel free to make me do more.
by Kayleigh B.
on Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:57 pm
 
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The Hippie wrote:lol so mad when you havent contributed to the game for 3 days



says the guy who really hasn't been contributing and has just been echoing everyone elses ideas such as "kayleigh and ash for scumteam", has just been saying complaining over activity for the past 4 days although he hasn't actually given us anything to actually roll with and try to discuss upon and totally shitposting ie post above. At least my contributions have been good and amounted to a lot more in like a day to the content of posted within a week. Please don't give me that shit when you're worse to be honest.

The Hippie wrote:All this noob-calling is making things tense Sad

No but really, Spain Ash was a decent player. Let down by his partner, I think.

VOTE: Kayleigh B. is shouting to get what she wants and not trying to reason with anyone. She's being too decisive, a trait exclusively found in scum.


Yeah Ash was good. Both were OK personally, I don't get where there were major scumslips or motives that brought reason to actually go and lynch him myself.

Only reason I'm being so decisive is because I've had this opinion and read on him for over 2 ingame days. It's not my fault that my read is pretty heavy on him and that makes me seem super decisive and wanting to lynch him. Any queries on why I have this huge read on him can easily be answered by looking at my posts about him. If that last post of me complaining made me look a lot more decisive and/or scummy, I'm sorry, was just a bit pissed off due to the fact we didn't actually go through with that.

(also jsyk personally decisive isn't necessarily scummy if it's supplemented with good evidence, which I feel I have.)
by Kayleigh B.
on Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:29 am
 
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Why the fuck do you guys care about scumteams that much. Realistically scumteams are the worst possible idea to ever be in existence in the game. Scum will be actively trying to not appear as scum for one part, and for the other part, the whole me/ash hypothesis was entirely wrong plus there's the fact that a lot of the playerbase viewed us as town leans. I mean my god did we really have to go through with the mirror lynch there? Lacy did you have to get all opinionated when you kept switching there? Bit silly tbh.

anyway good job you fucks time to lynch jenaro.
by Kayleigh B.
on Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:37 pm
 
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Yea... Lacy really fucked up with lynching mirror ash. I honestly don't know what happened there to make mirror ash look scum, but now it makes me rethink Lacy could be scum just a little bit. Anyways i'm going to lynch who i think should have been killed and...

Lynch Jenaro K.
by Kayleigh B.
on Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:10 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Jenaro K. wrote:
Kayleigh B. wrote:So, first of all Mirror Ash. Fairly good content overall, I don't have much in particular at all to pick on, he's been fairly aggressive when pushing or defending himself but I'm assuming that's just his playstyle and nothing I should entirely be worried about, perhaps something to take note of however. Slight town lean.

Jenaro - not sure if I got this out of context but right before he gave his reads out Jenaro personally said: " Hopefully Jenaro will post his thoughts soon. Gemma's flip is going to shake up the future reads people have a lot." (apologies for not quoting etc, typing this up on my phone, its there though.). Peculiar that he would talk about himself like that, and sorta is showing an idea that perhaps his partner is sitting back? Not really anything that of note there, but that could suggest a lot of cooperation, ie he doesn't want conflicting reads lists and wants to appear townie. Theres also the fact he did this directly after talking about scum cooperating to avoid slips, the silly boy. Barring that, jenaros content has been OK (albeit lazy due to my fucking name, still annoying me.) Neutral at the moment, not sure how to feel about that thing I found personally.

Nico - great content day 1, has sort of quietened down in day 2. Wavering a bit with my read, but I'm still a pretty confident town lean on Nico. He's been pretty good with his analysis and has been breaking down posts well and in ways I can agree with. Not much else I can think of here.

Yas - I don't quite get his logic about the read list. How is analysing a person's posts individually not a good thing for reading? Even skimming over a couple of pages can highlight some things that wouldn't have got noticed before. Enough about that any. I personally have a scum read on Yas atm. Not sure if that will change much based on his reads but I'll see. The sudden burst in activity is a bit ridiculous, I wasn't expecting that much defense. Also a test to study for where you have been posting extremely frequently over the past few days? Your reactions haven't been the bet either to people commenting on you which again has cast some doubt on you for me. If more stuff is wanted to clarify my read on him I'll feel free to share.

Need to run off shortly so I'll maybe look at the rest of you in a bit and do a couple of more players.


Kayleigh B. wrote:Also can you guys please look at that thing I said about Jenaro in my analysis post? After thinking about it a bit, its a pretty telling scumslip in my opinion. More leaning scum on Jenaro now after considering this plus looking at a few things. I just feel its a pretty intriguing bit of analysis that's worth looking at.


Kayleigh B. wrote:first of all wasn't on at deadline yesterday to actually do the lynch also was a bit doubtful tbh. second of all have you actually read my reads list and view on Jenaro? man maybe you should check before you start to question me. third i don't get why that's horribly scummy. I think as scum I would have probably bussed at that stage to look more townie, as we would have needed to stay townie as its more likely to be a town win tbh now considering 1 mafia to lynch rather than 3 town to lynch. hippie to be honest you should go read stuff before.


So, first, you never even finished your readslist, and what you did say you called me as neutral before changing to scumread with no content or reason.

reached deadline pretty much and I had not much time to type up the other folks, I felt they were the people I really needed to attend to in my list though so I shared that to actually help. Most likely will do another tomorrow. also we have this stunning bit of evidence you omitted which I said which shows why I feel you went turned scummy.

Kayleigh B. wrote:also can you guys please look at that thing I said about Jenaro in my analysis post? After thinking about it a bit, its a pretty telling scumslip in my opinion. More leaning scum on Jenaro now after considering this plus looking at a few things. I just feel its a pretty intriguing bit of analysis that's worth looking at.


ie looked over my read, had a think, leant more scum on you over like a couple of hours or whatever, which is reasonable. Not sudden scum flip like you're saying. please don't omit stuff that doesn't prove your point, you're obviously reading all my posts to make up this analysis post.

My serious self made his post saying he hoped I got my readslist out and provided us with his own opinions. After that, the shit hasn't been around much. Really, not at all. It's interesting that a lot of us has stated that our partners have been inactive, and yet you picked me out as being the scummiest. You also never lynched me and stayed of TR too.

again wasn't there at dl to actually consider lynching and was also focusing on other things, ie yourself for one. Thankfully that's been noticed and we've actually made some ground on you.

I did give my reasons as to why I thought TR was scummy. She was scummy to me before she started attacking Yas. I was looking at a possible Yas/TR scumteam, as they were my two scumreads. When she attacked Yas, it made me think that she was more towny, as I didn't think she would try to bus. After Yas's fucking impressive readslist, I saw him as way towny-er. TR, after his readslist, flipped to two other players out of nowhere. It was scummy af and after Yas looking towny to me, TR was my only other scumread. OFC I wanted to lynch her. I did wait to long, though. I wouldn't really call that much of a bus and I don't see why you don't call out Mirror Ash for his try too.
I suppose on those stances but please elaborate on the Ash stance? Not sure if I remember this. Fair enough though considering you seemed to find Yas a more townie person at dl. Still peculiar however.

Speaking of Mirror Ash. You were on TR for most of the day and then, with 30 minutes left, tried to change (until you realized you had posted late). You had another 30 minutes. Had you been reading thoroughly, you would have seen my attempted lynch, too. Both of them were scummy for different reasons. Mine can be seen as a bus and yours as a means to save a maf partner.

I also notice how you and Kayleigh have buddied this day against me. With TR gone, mafia would need to buddy to stay in the game. I would like Yas to post his scumteam reads next day, assuming we don't hit maf today, which I am going to try to do with my lynch soon. Mirror was a little better with his lynch today.
the one thing mafia shouldn't do is buddy up in black flag, they'll get found out super quick and after all only 1 has to be lynched for us to win. Fucking stupid if anyone buddied, in which case I don't see myself actually buddying that much other than the fact we have similar views on yourself and the whole same lynch target.
He immediately lynched me for the same thing he did, along with Kay and Yas. As soon as I had plur, he snuck his off and now sits without lynching while he and Kayleigh call me scummy on the last day before deadline. Interesting since they had nothing to say this last weekend.
said I was away, pretty sure one mirror said he was in Spain or some shit, so yeah. My sincerest apologies, but I have been saying stuff about you for a week so don't give me that bullshit.

With everything here, I am seeing a possible Kayleigh/Ash scumteam.

Lynch Mirror Ash

This is a little bit to save myself and much more so to lynch a possible maf read. Ash has been up and down for me. He started really scummy with him VS. Gemma ♥ and as we went into day 2 he became a town read for me. Towards the end and his day 3 content, he is back to a scummy read for me (and not just because he is the only lynch that can save me). :p

Sorry for this newspaper and I hope it will be useful/ get Ash lynched as maf. This time, I will not miss your fucking DL, AJ.


Jenaro thanks again for not commenting on the whole third person shit, you're pretty fucking excellent at the whole omitting important necessary information aren't you? Even explicitly aaid about it at the end and im sureyou saw it in your analysis of my posts. If you're here please comment on it, would love to see it.

To the rest of you, would recommend a Jenaro lynch highly, personally I think he's the better choice over Mirror, I mean we can lynch both but even then mirror hasnt been acting as weirdly in comparison to Jenaro imo. End of the day it's up to you guys but honestly feeling Jenaro is the biggest option for scum here, btw i suppose he lynched there to save his ass so I can't say much there.
by Kayleigh B.
on Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:03 pm
 
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Game 22: Hail Hydra!

Jenaro K. wrote:Also, i am so going for that 100 posts.


Jenaro K. wrote:The hippie, time to celebrate my post #69, imo.

#CONFETTIEVERYWHERE
#WEDIDITOTHERSELF
#GEMMALOVEMENOW


Jenaro K. wrote:But that was a milestone that was super important to me.


Jenaro K. wrote:Hell yeah. Made it right on DL. That better count. ;;


Jenaro K. wrote:FUCK. MFW I MISSED IT AGAIN. AND SHE WAS MAFIA. GDI.

Anyway, will post thoughts tomorrow when I have time to rest up. Fuck timezones and deadlines and clocks. I should have doen it at 30 minutes till instead of waiting for TR to say anything of value. Evil or Very Mad




First of all lets get the blatant useless and really irrelevant stuff out of the way. Mostly fillery nonsense and all in all shitposts or don't add to the situation. Do I really need to see you bitch over 3 posts about how you lynched mafia right at deadline? Oh how townie and great of you man. Also lets have a look at his whole content side of things. In reality, like 3 pages of his stuff is actually in the game. Again, on the side of that, the filler within the game,some more that could be argued as filler based on the fact he's just repeating ideas that we already said in some cases. Probably exaggerating a bit on this, but not that much more useful content compared to me, the player who actually has been fairly good with contributions and yet he can't seem to get a great read upon me although I could get a perfectly good scum lean on him with his content not being that much more than mine. Not sure if that was just down to laziness for the last 3 reads when he did those but that's just me bitching about it again.


Second, lemme draw your attention back over to my reads posts and the various things I mentioned about him. There's the fact he didn't even acknowledge my whole attack towards him even after a while, I mean it was substantial enough that people actually saw it and got a view from it. I mean I'm sure he saw it given that he posted on that same page shortly after.

Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.


I feel you got this wrong. I tried to lynch TR for being scummy right at deadlineafter she never posted any new information. You're the one who tried to switch right before the time you though DL was going to be.


A full 33 minutes versus, yknow, 13 seconds...yes absolutely.


Not only that but I said EXACTLY WHY I DID IT. Nico made a good point, and i thought it was enough reason to switch my vote. You're the one that just tried to change yknow, the second before deadline.


You do know I didn't change my vote, right? I went from not lynching anyone to lynching TR, who already had plur.


You just lynched him, no reasoning involved, and then said "Yes! Right at deadline! that better count ;;" To me that SCREAMS scum...you're hopping on TR's wagon to try and be like "oh yeah im not mafia i helped you lynch the reporter" etc etc


Did you read the posts I had? I explained in one the TR and Yas were scummy to me, but TR was less so in my reads list. After Yas posted his reads, I made another post explaining why I felt TR was scummy and why she had become less scummy to me. After that, as she randlynched 2 other users, I basically told her I would lynch her and to post any readslists she may have to help town (on the off chance she was town). At deadline (I was a little late) I tried to lynch her. It wasn't as immediate as you try to make it out to be.


She had personally posted some sort of reads list beforehand which albeit wasn't much was something alongside some other stuff. It was sort of immediate in terms of forum mafia tbh, plus like mirror was saying about the that better count thing,why would you care if it counted anyway? It's a bloody slow moving game and he lynches aren't gonna change rapidly over the course of two minutes that you need to lynch to ensure a lynch on TR. Did you want to appear super townie and get your points for lynching scum? I mean lynching someone who we didn't know was scum yet you jumped on them at deadline suddenly feeling they're super scummy and not entirely justifying your point on lynching them.

Not really much more I can add to it. Rest of my complaints or whatever about him are pretty minor/pointless tbh so I won't cloud things with them so anyway there you go guys. Any questions feel free.

Also Jenaro, I'd love for you to actually explain why you referred to yourself in the third person and all, would be lovely to hear about it all. for reference please check my whole post about it.
by Kayleigh B.
on Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:09 pm
 
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apologies for not being here past couple of days, unfortunately not had internet access and didn't say here. just to say that I'm here and everything and I don't know where the heck my partner is that they feel they cant actually give some content out that might be useful for us all. not making this post big but warning of incoming post from me on why I feel Jenaro is scum and why my lynch is justified and not cause he switched lynch or whatever the reason people are claiming.
by Kayleigh B.
on Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:44 pm
 
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The Hippie wrote:idk why we are all lynching jenaro, still havent heard why kayleigh didnt lynch the reporter while now she goes full jenaro lynch.

first of all wasn't on at deadline yesterday to actually do the lynch also was a bit doubtful tbh. second of all have you actually read my reads list and view on Jenaro? man maybe you should check before you start to question me. third i don't get why that's horribly scummy. I think as scum I would have probably bussed at that stage to look more townie, as we would have needed to stay townie as its more likely to be a town win tbh now considering 1 mafia to lynch rather than 3 town to lynch. hippie to be honest you should go read stuff before.
by Kayleigh B.
on Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:05 pm
 
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lynch Jenaro k

sticking with my thoughts from yesterday, still unchanged. We need to discuss Jenaro more, he's a really likely person for to flip scum in my eyes. Will add a bit more later, currently occupied, but yeah, please have the mind of going to discuss about this.
by Kayleigh B.
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throw out a read list, I mean, should really proof read my posts beforehand lol
by Kayleigh B.
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Mirror Ash wrote:
Kayleigh B. wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:Hopefully Jenaro will post his thoughts soon. Gemma's flip is going to shake up the future reads people have a lot.

Day 2 and now The Hippie and Ash are attacking each other. The first thing I thought about is how strangely active the hippie seems to be. Once the reporter jumped on him, his activity spiked.

I'm wondering if there are two people pretending to be one hippie. It seems like all of the posts have been in the style of one person, but I think it's likely the second person is contributing to the activity.

It appears that out of ash/hippie, there would be one scum or two town. I can't imagine that hippie/mirror are bussing.

In a world where ash is scum, he would have to jump on another person and tunnel on them to throw someone else under the bus so town won't lynch him.

If hippie is scum, ash would be another easy person to get town to lynch off.

Both scenarios are very plausible in my mind.

If neither parties are mafia, then this could be an easy day for mafia, just letting one or the other get lynched passively.

We need to keep an eye out for how other people are reacting to this and make sure no one passively allows the day to slip by without doing anything.  


Point of interest if people can't be bothered seeing the quote from his list.

I dont quite understand why thats scummy. It doesnt make it look like his partner is sitting back and making his partner do everything because he said quite useful stuff in the same post.


Did it really add anything new however? He's referring to stuff we had pretty much all already talked about and clarified and I don't see how that isn't awfully scummy, its almost like fillering in some places through that post. As well as that, like I was saying, referring to himself as Jenaro is sort of dumb. Why can't his partner also not just personally throughout a readslist? Is he lazy? Is he not wanting to? Is he not wanting to give out conflicting data? Could be any, personally I feel it's the latter. He's basically saying that 'my partner is gonna give a read list shortly since I'm not.', and that's pretty fucking weird to say about your other half in the context of the game.
by Kayleigh B.
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Jenaro K. wrote:Hopefully Jenaro will post his thoughts soon. Gemma's flip is going to shake up the future reads people have a lot.

Day 2 and now The Hippie and Ash are attacking each other. The first thing I thought about is how strangely active the hippie seems to be. Once the reporter jumped on him, his activity spiked.

I'm wondering if there are two people pretending to be one hippie. It seems like all of the posts have been in the style of one person, but I think it's likely the second person is contributing to the activity.

It appears that out of ash/hippie, there would be one scum or two town. I can't imagine that hippie/mirror are bussing.

In a world where ash is scum, he would have to jump on another person and tunnel on them to throw someone else under the bus so town won't lynch him.

If hippie is scum, ash would be another easy person to get town to lynch off.

Both scenarios are very plausible in my mind.

If neither parties are mafia, then this could be an easy day for mafia, just letting one or the other get lynched passively.

We need to keep an eye out for how other people are reacting to this and make sure no one passively allows the day to slip by without doing anything.


Point of interest if people can't be bothered seeing the quote from his list.
by Kayleigh B.
on Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:38 pm
 
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Yas W. wrote:blah blah reads post not wanting to waste all your precious scrolling on me


Thanks for giving this, fucking impressive on your behalf going to suh detail. Didn't expect that at all, definitely has changed my view a bit.

Also can you guys please look at that thing I said about Jenaro in my analysis post? After thinking about it a bit, its a pretty telling scumslip in my opinion. More leaning scum on Jenaro now after considering this plus looking at a few things. I just feel its a pretty intriguing bit of analysis that's worth looking at.
by Kayleigh B.
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The Hippie wrote:
Kayleigh B. wrote:Damn that was a lot of activity during the time i last checked in. Anyways i just finished catching up and what i see is that Yas is town and The hippie bandwagon was kinda strange. I havent seen The Hippie post as much except to lynch or some filler, also the fact that the hippie ignored The Reporter's questions and just now randomly went offline instead of posting something feels even more scummy. So im going to do what i originally wanted to do and Lynch The Hippie


you literally just showed up out of no where to lynch me when it seems the lynch is swinging my way. Also i have made long posts, maybe if you were active in the game, you would have noticed that.


maybe that is the fault of the differing opinions. also reminder that 31 posts isn't that much more active, albeit a lot were on my behalf. Still personally not feeling you as the best candidate hat we have discussed, my other half begs to differ.
ul the hippie
personally I feel that yas is really likely to be scum, but I'll wait for his reads list before I make my lynch, he's on my radar though.

Anyways I'm gonna give a few thoughts on some of the players atm. I think you guys would benefit a bit from it seeing as I've been avoiding from short frequent posts and instead going for some detail in my posts, which again makes no fucking sense why the guy who can't remember my name (I know its jenaro im joking) can't go and read into my posts a bit. I have plenty of content there and personally I don't see how a better read other than slight town didn't have much to go on should suffice. Not gonna cover all since I don't have much time atm but I'll give my thoughts anyway.

So, first of all Mirror Ash. Fairly good content overall, I don't have much in particular at all to pick on, he's been fairly aggressive when pushing or defending himself but I'm assuming that's just his playstyle and nothing I should entirely be worried about, perhaps something to take note of however. Slight town lean.

Jenaro - not sure if I got this out of context but right before he gave his reads out Jenaro personally said: " Hopefully Jenaro will post his thoughts soon. Gemma's flip is going to shake up the future reads people have a lot." (apologies for not quoting etc, typing this up on my phone, its there though.). Peculiar that he would talk about himself like that, and sorta is showing an idea that perhaps his partner is sitting back? Not really anything that of note there, but that could suggest a lot of cooperation, ie he doesn't want conflicting reads lists and wants to appear townie. Theres also the fact he did this directly after talking about scum cooperating to avoid slips, the silly boy. Barring that, jenaros content has been OK (albeit lazy due to my fucking name, still annoying me.) Neutral at the moment, not sure how to feel about that thing I found personally.

Nico - great content day 1, has sort of quietened down in day 2. Wavering a bit with my read, but I'm still a pretty confident town lean on Nico. He's been pretty good with his analysis and has been breaking down posts well and in ways I can agree with. Not much else I can think of here.

Yas - I don't quite get his logic about the read list. How is analysing a person's posts individually not a good thing for reading? Even skimming over a couple of pages can highlight some things that wouldn't have got noticed before. Enough about that any. I personally have a scum read on Yas atm. Not sure if that will change much based on his reads but I'll see. The sudden burst in activity is a bit ridiculous, I wasn't expecting that much defense. Also a test to study for where you have been posting extremely frequently over the past few days? Your reactions haven't been the bet either to people commenting on you which again has cast some doubt on you for me. If more stuff is wanted to clarify my read on him I'll feel free to share.

Need to run off shortly so I'll maybe look at the rest of you in a bit and do a couple of more players.
by Kayleigh B.
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The Reporter wrote:its the fact that i am tired


And you could have read most of the post in the time you made these pointless posts to at least to get the jist of it to actually give a real idea on it rather than 1 sentence per large section?
by Kayleigh B.
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Damn that was a lot of activity during the time i last checked in. Anyways i just finished catching up and what i see is that Yas is town and The hippie bandwagon was kinda strange. I havent seen The Hippie post as much except to lynch or some filler, also the fact that the hippie ignored The Reporter's questions and just now randomly went offline instead of posting something feels even more scummy. So im going to do what i originally wanted to do and Lynch The Hippie
by Kayleigh B.
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Yas W. wrote:I have a feeling it could be lylo or sth and it's gonna be like "Oh Yas was super scummy in the beginning his activity was very weird Lynch Yas". (mafia smiles)

To be honest, the reporter comes off as being lynch-happy. She started the day with a lynch on the hippie, then proceeds to Mirror Ash. Afterwards, she said I don't really know who is scummy, and unlynches Mirror Ash, only to lynch me on the next page. Now that is much more scummy than my activity.


I do agree with that personally. Your activity hasn't really been the biggest issue imo, your analysis really was just echoing some people on d1 personally. Hadn't even noticed that about the reporter which is intriguing at least, will definitely have a closer look at her posts.
by Kayleigh B.
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Kayleigh B. wrote:
Brutella Q. wrote:something I just noticed see how Kayleigh B. said "I just decided to put my input on what i think is going on so far and i'll let my other half decide on what is the best way to approach this."

When you're town, really you don't know what's going on and there's only a few options that will work out for you, and most people believe that they're right and that they know better than their partner. When you're mafia however it's a way smaller risk to let your partner decide something when it comes to lynches, seeing as your partner probably won't lynch a mafia, instead they'll lynch a townie. At most you'll look a bit scummy when letting your partner decide, assuming you can make up for any mistakes they make so you don't get lynched. As town the worst that could happen is a misslynch, which is a lot worse. This is just a small thing I noticed, and it doesn't mean I think kayleigh is mafia, it means I think they're being a bit too cooperative with their partner to make much sense, which is scummy.


Where did I say that? I don't ever specifically remember me typing that. Perhaps it was my other half but oh well. Also in what way am I being cooperative if my partner is basically dead and never posting. Not my fault they're acting like an idiot. Plenty of content they could answer upon.

Anyway on that logic, it sort of goes to say that anyone who is arguing with themselves is suddenly town pretty much. 'Cooperation' is not necessarily scummy as you said, but scum will aim to appear as town so why wouldn't they just argue over a lynch etc? They'll still lynch a townie whilst looking fairly 'townie' as you say yourself.  Same could be applied to any of the players in the game at the moment, the whole logic in that is kind of flawed when you think about it a bit.

Again Yas, as you didn't answer my question, why do you see the need to not comment on a lot of things going on. You seem to be on frequently and yet you decide to just not give out the content we so desire. Thanks at least for saying that you'll try a bit harder and give some more player based analysis, but that's no excuse for the lurking in day 1, I mean you were on fairly frequent enough.


"I don't remember specifically typing that" how about the post you made just above the one you just quoted? I never said anyone who argues with themselves is town, I said it's strange to be cooperating THAT much. Letting your other half decide is just not something I'd see the town doing, it doesn't make sense to me. Yes the mafia can argue over a lynch, and why wouldn't they? they're still going to have conflicting views over what'll help them the most. Except for if they've been showing a lot of skill and planning in the scum chat, in which case you're might want to leave it to your partner. That's the only way I can see someone letting their other half decide.[/quote]

Apparently I did say that, OK. Of course we're gonna have conflicting views, I agree with that. But realistically, have you ever heard of someone being lazy? That happens, and I could never imagine someone going out of their way as scum to say 'ill let my partner decide.'. Sounds like a bit of a shitty excuse to be honest, but its not the only option unlike you thinking that a specific person is definitively scum due to them saying im crap at decision making.

I mean for gods sake i was the guy going about saying that much cooperation is super idiotic and unnecessary. I mean seriously, we're all analysing posts looking for things like that, what point would there be in doing to be immediately called out like I have been? Can't really add much more than I have, will possibly see if I have time for a breakdown of a few people tonight, seems like we have plenty of information for that sort of thing. Would urge a lot of you to go and do the same.
by Kayleigh B.
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Brutella Q. wrote:something I just noticed see how Kayleigh B. said "I just decided to put my input on what i think is going on so far and i'll let my other half decide on what is the best way to approach this."

When you're town, really you don't know what's going on and there's only a few options that will work out for you, and most people believe that they're right and that they know better than their partner. When you're mafia however it's a way smaller risk to let your partner decide something when it comes to lynches, seeing as your partner probably won't lynch a mafia, instead they'll lynch a townie. At most you'll look a bit scummy when letting your partner decide, assuming you can make up for any mistakes they make so you don't get lynched. As town the worst that could happen is a misslynch, which is a lot worse. This is just a small thing I noticed, and it doesn't mean I think kayleigh is mafia, it means I think they're being a bit too cooperative with their partner to make much sense, which is scummy.


Where did I say that? I don't ever specifically remember me typing that. Perhaps it was my other half but oh well. Also in what way am I being cooperative if my partner is basically dead and never posting. Not my fault they're acting like an idiot. Plenty of content they could answer upon.

Anyway on that logic, it sort of goes to say that anyone who is arguing with themselves is suddenly town pretty much. 'Cooperation' is not necessarily scummy as you said, but scum will aim to appear as town so why wouldn't they just argue over a lynch etc? They'll still lynch a townie whilst looking fairly 'townie' as you say yourself. Same could be applied to any of the players in the game at the moment, the whole logic in that is kind of flawed when you think about it a bit.

Again Yas, as you didn't answer my question, why do you see the need to not comment on a lot of things going on. You seem to be on frequently and yet you decide to just not give out the content we so desire. Thanks at least for saying that you'll try a bit harder and give some more player based analysis, but that's no excuse for the lurking in day 1, I mean you were on fairly frequent enough.
by Kayleigh B.
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Jenaro K. wrote:Hopefully Jenaro will post his thoughts soon. Gemma's flip is going to shake up the future reads people have a lot.

Day 2 and now The Hippie and Ash are attacking each other. The first thing I thought about is how strangely active the hippie seems to be. Once the reporter jumped on him, his activity spiked.

I'm wondering if there are two people pretending to be one hippie. It seems like all of the posts have been in the style of one person, but I think it's likely the second person is contributing to the activity.

It appears that out of ash/hippie, there would be one scum or two town. I can't imagine that hippie/mirror are bussing.

In a world where ash is scum, he would have to jump on another person and tunnel on them to throw someone else under the bus so town won't lynch him.

If hippie is scum, ash would be another easy person to get town to lynch off.

Both scenarios are very plausible in my mind.

If neither parties are mafia, then this could be an easy day for mafia, just letting one or the other get lynched passively.

We need to keep an eye out for how other people are reacting to this and make sure no one passively allows the day to slip by without doing anything.








Ok so i kinda agree with that Jenaro is saying here, but from the looks of this i think what happened yesterday was that Gemma and ash were fighting for no reason and that it is just a fight between two townies. Another thing i saw was that when The Reporter called The Hippie out, he did also start to get strangely active and i Think the Hippie randomly lynched ash just because Gemma flipped town.

I can also see another fight between two town for no reason and mafia is just sitting there waiting to hammer. some other people i think could be suspicious is Brutella due to the fact she is blaming her other self for the lynches and playing bad and The Reporter as The reporter only lynched The Hippie from the start and hasn't said much since. i also agree with my partner of yas being scummy due to the fact that he hasnt said much except following on the gemma lynch.

I just decided to put my input on what i think is going on so far and i'll let my other half decide on what is the best way to approach this.
by Kayleigh B.
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