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Manning P. wrote:

Ian S. wrote:

Manning P. wrote:

Ian S. wrote:Rhyanna F Town- First person to lynch on Anita and stuck with it throughout the entire D1. Very unlikely to be scum and posts have good content.

Carl G- Neutral (leaning town) Brings up several good points about Penelope that made me start to view her as closer to scum than to town like I had originally thought. And while I have been a bit lazy with posting D2 as well, his not coming back on before DL to make his lynch keeps him at neutral for me.

Manning P- Scumread- Seems way too eager to lynch me, tbh. Calls out inactive people and points out that we will never have clears in this game. While that is true, the likelihood of Kylan bussing so early on D1 is far less likely than you bussing. You put Anita back at L-1, after she had already reached it once and none of her votes showed signs of moving. Leads crusade against inactives and while he switches off of Kylan for good reasoning, doesn't even wait for Rodman to post before moving to me. Then asks Rodman to move another lynch on to me in an attempt to shift plur to me.

Part 3 coming after this cause I can't get colors to work anymore.

is... is that a blatant omgus i see there??? lmao
1. of course im eager to lynch you because youre my scumread. wanting to lynch your scumreads is a healthy sign of towniness. as scum i could just passively stand by as anyone who isnt me is lynched which would literally be the easiest fucking thing for me to do right now.
2. yes i can understand that lynching anita at the point that i did is not the most townie thing ever since it was unlikely to stop the lynch anyway but i could also have easily hopped on a counterwagon for anita to jump on and maybe try to avert her lynch since there were two lynches on jacuzzi.
3. i already explained why i pressured the inactives and why i stopped when i stopped and im not reexplaining for you.
4. again youre my scumread so of course i want to get you lynched. i dont see how this or anything else for that matter makes me scummy in the slightest.

Sure, I'm your scumread, and your only one. And when I flip town, where do you go from there? I wouldn't call this an omgus so much as covering all bases. If you were someone I veiwed as scummy enough, I would try to lynch you, but I don't see you as scummy enough to do so atm. I'm not going to just clear everyone else because I have one scumread that I'm going to tunnel on.

i never cleared the whole rest of the pl and it would be hypocritical of me to clear anyone right now after pointing out nobody is ever clear in this mode. yes youre my only scum read from when i made my reads post but im obviously not going to run around like a headless chicken if you flip town because there are other leads and i know what the hell im doing. scumhunting is iterative but reassessing other people can wait another day since mafia cant kill yet anyway. of course i would do so if someone gave me at least one compelling reason to do so but that hasnt happened yet and my scum read on you hasnt lessened hence keeping you as my lynch for today.

For me, reassessing other people another day is not an option, since I am one of two players with 2 lynches, a majority. It is in the best interest of my faction for me to make sure all possible scumreads I have are made known, for whatever reasons I may have them.

To me, it seems you lynched me because I was willing to keep Anita alive D1 and lynch someone else. I had my reasons for suspecting PJ more than her and I had my reasons for thinking Anita was more likely town, something I was wrong about. I don't see that as being a reason to find me scummy, though. It's easy for someone to make a guess as to who scum is and when they end up being right, they can pretend they were geniuses all along and pat themselves on the back and tell everyone how they knew it all along. For me, I am always prepared to be wrong and so I make sure my thoughts are always up to date and I don't pass anything up because there's always tomorrow. Waiting to entertain new ideas just because you're safe for the day and want to wait does not help us with where you are now, and I feel it would be beneficial to town to have more than one scumread now, before you have the opportunity to wait and see if you can pat yourself on the back for being right or be forced into a situation like me where you were so sure you knew who scum was that when you turned out to be wrong, you have to defend yourself.

Idk if that makes sense but it's what came to mind as I read your post.

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Rhyanna F. wrote:there is only one scum left so its completely reasonable to only have one scumread

I tend to disagree with this. Playstyle difference, maybe? If I am wrong on my one scumread, though, I like to make sure I have thought of every possible scum and my reasoning behind it so that remaining players have more to go off of than just one tunnel that becomes useless if my 1 scumread flips town.

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Manning P. wrote:

Ian S. wrote:Rhyanna F Town- First person to lynch on Anita and stuck with it throughout the entire D1. Very unlikely to be scum and posts have good content.

Carl G- Neutral (leaning town) Brings up several good points about Penelope that made me start to view her as closer to scum than to town like I had originally thought. And while I have been a bit lazy with posting D2 as well, his not coming back on before DL to make his lynch keeps him at neutral for me.

Manning P- Scumread- Seems way too eager to lynch me, tbh. Calls out inactive people and points out that we will never have clears in this game. While that is true, the likelihood of Kylan bussing so early on D1 is far less likely than you bussing. You put Anita back at L-1, after she had already reached it once and none of her votes showed signs of moving. Leads crusade against inactives and while he switches off of Kylan for good reasoning, doesn't even wait for Rodman to post before moving to me. Then asks Rodman to move another lynch on to me in an attempt to shift plur to me.

Part 3 coming after this cause I can't get colors to work anymore.

is... is that a blatant omgus i see there??? lmao
1. of course im eager to lynch you because youre my scumread. wanting to lynch your scumreads is a healthy sign of towniness. as scum i could just passively stand by as anyone who isnt me is lynched which would literally be the easiest fucking thing for me to do right now.
2. yes i can understand that lynching anita at the point that i did is not the most townie thing ever since it was unlikely to stop the lynch anyway but i could also have easily hopped on a counterwagon for anita to jump on and maybe try to avert her lynch since there were two lynches on jacuzzi.
3. i already explained why i pressured the inactives and why i stopped when i stopped and im not reexplaining for you.
4. again youre my scumread so of course i want to get you lynched. i dont see how this or anything else for that matter makes me scummy in the slightest.

Sure, I'm your scumread, and your only one. And when I flip town, where do you go from there? I wouldn't call this an omgus so much as covering all bases. If you were someone I veiwed as scummy enough, I would try to lynch you, but I don't see you as scummy enough to do so atm. I'm not going to just clear everyone else because I have one scumread that I'm going to tunnel on.

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Rhyanna F Town- First person to lynch on Anita and stuck with it throughout the entire D1. Very unlikely to be scum and posts have good content.

Carl G- Neutral (leaning town) Brings up several good points about Penelope that made me start to view her as closer to scum than to town like I had originally thought. And while I have been a bit lazy with posting D2 as well, his not coming back on before DL to make his lynch keeps him at neutral for me.

Manning P- Scumread- Seems way too eager to lynch me, tbh. Calls out inactive people and points out that we will never have clears in this game. While that is true, the likelihood of Kylan bussing so early on D1 is far less likely than you bussing. You put Anita back at L-1, after she had already reached it once and none of her votes showed signs of moving. Leads crusade against inactives and while he switches off of Kylan for good reasoning, doesn't even wait for Rodman to post before moving to me. Then asks Rodman to move another lynch on to me in an attempt to shift plur to me.

Part 3 coming after this cause I can't get colors to work anymore.

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Sanpei S- Scum (leaning neutral)- Original scumread you for moving around your lynches and scumreads (calling Penelope a useful player to keep around then lynching her, shifting from Anita to Penelope). Gave good reasoning that put suspicion on Anita, but never stuck with a lynch on her. When I listed him as a possible scumread with Penelope (And I will explain it here, that their interactions felt weird to me. At the time of the read, I assumed Anita was more likely town and Sanpai was more likely scum, the way he had called out Anita and Penelope's switch to Anita before moving lynch off of her again seemed scummy. He was also still lynching Penelope at the time or Anita's plur at 5, so it could have been seen later as him being against her and not a scumteam, had Anita flipped town). This read was shot when Anita did flip scum, though, and Sanpai came to look a lot townier to me. The reason I keep the scumread on him was the seemingly over-reaction to me calling him a scumread, something he didn't do when I lynched him, but he did end up doing when I gave a loose scumread on him/Penelope and then lynched elsewhere. It made little sense for a townie to react that way. TL:DR- Scummy for reaction to being called scum but leaning more neutral for calling out Anita early on.

Horatio A- Neutral (Leaning scum)- Lynched Anita with very weak reasoning (basically copied PJ with his points, basically quoting all of Anita's posts and calling them filler without any additional reasoning). With his lynch on Sanpai, it feels a lot like he's again following my D1 reasoning for lynching Sanpai. He does point out Sanpai's strange reaction to being called scum, though, which is something that has also bugged me. Only gives 3 reads, and none of them are very in depth and a lot of it feels like repeats of reasoning other players have used. Lack of posts throughout both days so I can't really see him as stronger town. Keeping my lynch on him for this.

Professor Jacuzzi- Town- As I said, I thought either he or Anita would be either both town or 1 town 1 mafia. I read Anita as being more likely town due mostly to wifom reasons and since PJ had a pretty weak reason to originally jump on the Anita BW (that Horatio jumped on with the same weak reasoning the very next post, I suspected him and Horatio as moving plur to Anita). Since Anita did flip scum, my scumread on Horatio/PJ team is shot and PJ looks a lot more town to me. Also, looking back, his lynch would have only been the third with enough days left for discussion that it would have been of no consequence. It was the extra Horatio lynch that made it seem a lot scummier in my eyes.

The Rodman- Neutral (leaning town)- Original player jumped on the Anita wagon with no explanation. He was the third vote on her, so he wasn't exactly a pioneer on the scum wagon. Could be seen as a bus that could have been changed if someone else started to get more lynches, although this isn't likely especially since he was subbed out. New person has far better posts than the last, but not much content overall.

Part 2 coming next. Wanted to save this before I continued.

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So, first off, why I didn't expect Anita to be scum. It's really a lot to do with what Penelope originally said, that they seemed too scummy to actually be scum. I am a huge wifom player, and so I read Anita as more likely to be town based on that.


As for Jacuzzi being my scumread D1, I saw him as using weak reasoning to put a lynch on a player with plur. It just didn't seem like a strong enough reason to put a lynch on Anita, although thinking back she would have only been at 3/6, not really a threat. After the Anita flip, I no longer see him as that scummy.

I am still scumreading on Horatio, although a bit weaker, his reasoning for lynching Anita felt like a copy or PJ. I need to go more in depth on his posts tomorrow, way before DL, but I haven't been on enough to really do so. For now, I am just going to Lynch Horatio and hope he posts something soon. I will as well.

Edit: Removed a copy of player list that I was using for making scumreads. Didn't make enough progress to make a full scumread post, though.

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Never expected Anita to flip scum, tbh. Reads and thoughts coming tonight, after I take a nap.

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Sanpei S. wrote:Did...did Anita just discuss her scumread on Penelope and then not lynch Penelope?


Is this the new meta?

If you look up, I asked her to explain her scumread on Penelope (something she should have done anyway, mind you). And also provided reasoning on Horatio (mostly a nod to my post be eh).

Speaking of Horatio and Jacuzzi, I see that both have been online since I made my post with scumreads on them. I would like to see what they have to say about it and provide better reasoning to why they want to lynch Anita, because right now, I don't see enough of a reason to lynch her, and she has plur. I continues to see Jacuzzi and Horatio as two players who are by far better lynch candidates. At least, for D1, anyway.

by Ian S. Today at 3:15 am
Jacuzzi: Last visit : Today at 10:29 am
Horatio: Last visit : Today at 3:59 am


Possible scumteams: Horatio/Jacuzzi, Penelope/Sanpai.

Jacuzzi and Anita are most likely either both town or 1 town 1 maf. I do not see them as a scumteam.

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Unlynch Sanpai S.

Lynch Professor Jacuzzi

Something I forgot to do in the post above. Atm, I would prefer a lynch on him over Anita. I do not feel both are scum together, but he is the more likely scum out of the two of them.

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Anita B. wrote:Pretty large scumread on Penelope C. because of her just jumping on my bandwagon, as well as the topic of most of her postings seem more likely to be her trying to get town to forget about that one scummy thing she did, and she hasn't actually contributed much of her own opinion.

What did she do that was overly scummy to you? Because to me, she seems pretty townie.

Sanpai S. wrote:@Carl:

Did you not see how much discussion surrounding Rodman the "third lynch is scum" gave us?

While there was discussion about it, it was all useless discussion. Nothing has come from it except for maybe the source of Anita's read on Penelope (I say maybe because I am waiting for her real reasoning and so this is just an assumption atm). This "third is scum" is just another topic that people can easily talk about to look like they are analyzing the game without actually adding anything useful to it. If you disagree and have actually learned anything from it, Sanpai, please do tell.

Carl G. wrote:I'm pretty much in agreement with all of your points on Anita. Her posts, albeit some of them being fairly useful at this stage, are majority redundant and not necessarily being 100% helpful at this stage. Personally, my top reads at a basic point of view are at this stage are as follows: -

Your reads were good, but it was horrible to read over all of the "At this stage" mentions that you made. It makes it seem like you are trying to appear smarter in this game than you actually are. Nothing scummy about this, just made me cringe a bit.

Rhyanna F. wrote:if anita is mafia i think her partner is professor jacuzi
i will explain if it is relevant but i dont think its needed otherwise

While I do have a scumread on Jaccuzi atm, I don't think it is the same reason as you. Please do explain your thoughts on this read. Was what I had typed before I saw your response. I do still see a scumread to Jaccuzi, but Anita less so.


Thoughts on: Professor Jacuzzi, Horatio A, and Penelope C.

All three jumped on the Anita BW pretty quickly, but their reasons are iffy to me atm. Jacuzzi and Horatio both cited the filler reasons as being scummy and only added comments pointing it out to various quotes. They didn't really go in depth on Anita before adding a lynch. With Penelope, I feel she goes more in depth to Anita's posts and uses (only a little more so) better reasoning than just the filler as a reason to place a lynch. I feel that the timing with the other two was just off. Anita had plur, then, and Jacuzzi had only 1 lynch (was at 2 but the an UL took him back to 1). The reasonings don't seem that solid for both players to add a lynch that soon, especially while Jacuzzi was starting to tally up lynches himself. It seems more like they were both trying to direct lynches away from him. I would like to hear thoughts about this.

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Anita B. wrote:Because honestly, you seem really flippant between me / penelope c / The rodman

speaking of rodman

YO RODMAN could you please explain your actions, thanks!

The prod on Rodman seems a bit much, imo. Too focused on him. Also, I see only one action that Rodman has taken, BWing on an obvious joke claim. That isn't a good reason for a lynch, but it is a good enough action to draw reactions.


Next up, agreeing with Penelope that lynching a player for being #x on the list is bad. It doesn't draw a good reaction, imo.

Sanpei S. wrote:You don't just ask us our thoughts on you lynching people.

You lynch them, and then see what we think. God.

Unlynch Professor Jacuzzi, Lynch Anita B.


Asking us to "approve" your lynch seems like a scummy thing to do, no? It's as though you're mafia asking town what to do so you can try to fit in better.

Agreed that asking us to approve your lynch before you make does seem a bit scummy, but it's not something too overly scummy. Passivity is just a bad strat in a mafia game. Using it as an excuse to put a lynch on you, I feel, is the more scummy action in this case.

Sanpei S. wrote:

The Rodman wrote:Did you claim mafia partners with Prof. Well I belive it.

Lynch Anita B

Did you seriously just do that? Why would you ever claim Mafia on Day 1 in a theme with no nightkills on Night 1 or Night 2?

Professor Jacuzzi wrote:

Penelope C. wrote:

Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.

That's just it-usual day 1 meta. That doesn't make it inherently bad. That being said...

Lynch Professor Jacuzzi, because using "Speak up, please" as a reason for a lynch when you're the fourth game-related post seems weird.

Are you really lynching me because one of my posts seemed "weird"? That's seriously vague, elaborate please.

Anita B. wrote:
Can confirm I'm Mafia with professor jacuzzi

It's a good thing you're cute....

lolicons

Manning P. wrote:lynch the rodman

third is always scum get him

This is a bad way of going about it, but I see the point he's making. It's a bad "reason" for lynching, but a good lynch, given what I stated about Rodman above.

Anita B. wrote:

The Rodman wrote:Did you claim mafia partners with Prof. Well I belive it.

Lynch Anita B

Interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure your just bandwagoning because turbo.

I say we lynch Penelope C. today bc apparently she's superior to everyone else and I hate egotistical players

Egotistical players are the best because they'll attempt crazy bullshit that nobody else will. And usually get scum caught in the flounder-y process that follows.

Penelope C. wrote:

Professor Jacuzzi wrote:

Penelope C. wrote:

Carl G. wrote:Not really sure why we're spreading lynches just for the sake of it. No clue why exactly this has any use when we all know this is just usual day 1 meta. Anyway, how about you all explain your lynches when you carry them out for a change? It's always nice for that to happen.

That's just it-usual day 1 meta. That doesn't make it inherently bad. That being said...

Lynch Professor Jacuzzi, because using "Speak up, please" as a reason for a lynch when you're the fourth game-related post seems weird.

Are you really lynching me because one of my posts seemed "weird"? That's seriously vague, elaborate please.

I was referring to the fact that you were using someone's inactivity as a reason to lynch them at a point where the vast majority of the players would have also been considered inactive (discounting confirmation posts). I will admit that it is fairly shaky reasoning, however (I'll likely remove the lynch soon in favor or a stronger read or to join the rvs).

Nowhere near as shaky as "Third is always scum" though.

(Editing to fix something that went wrong with the quoting.)

>Inactivity isn't as shaky as "Third is always scum"

Could you be more wrong? You literally just posted a long quote/paragraph where you called someone out for using inactivity as a lynch reason when most players were inactive too...

Saying "Third is always scum" is a way to start a new lynch via RVS on Day 1 that gives, actually, MORE reads (see lynching by avatar RVS). Lynching by inactivity when there were most inactives is flawed. And, honestly, I think you and The Rodman could be our scumteam now, just based on the way you shot down "Third is always scum" without logic.

Unlynch Anita B., Lynch Penelope C.

Last but not least, you go from talking about how Penelope is a good player to keep around because of the unusual strats you seem to think they posses, and yet you somehow manage to flip that and jump to a Penelope lynch in the same post. Kinda a weird way to go with that.

Lynch Sanpei S.

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Now that I have seen the monstrosity that is my picture, time to post reads, and oh so many interesting things I have seen.

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Confirmed. A day late. Gdi AJ for just telling me this started now.

Also confirmed I am not a loli and so my gameplay will decrease by 33% because of it.

Also, shit Penelope C. fine af.