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Game 8: Fire and Ice Mafia

Good game guys, thanks hanzou at the end there, i personally would have been blinded without your advice at the end, really prompted me to go look back.

Jimmy so sorry for my awful play, but we did it i guess. Onto the player guessing!
by Chigusa X.
on Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:12 am
 
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I don't exactly know how to put this into words personally, but I'm feeling really strong about Shigeo. Evidence above, and from a lot of his posts I read, Shigeo was very aggressive etc when someone did target him imho. Just my POV, but yeah. Jimmy, I seriously think you're a villager from what I've read of your stuff, it just seems like the thing that would fit here.

I won't go into incredible detail, I want you to make your own decision Jimmy.

Go read both our archives, and I also recommend reading Volt K.'s archive since it is his partner we're looking for here. Not gonna push you at all, make your own decision at your own leisure.

Lynch Shigeo H.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:28 pm
 
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I love the fact no one is reading what i posted a few days ago. Jimmy, please don't hammer, I'm going to come back in a few hours i think and explain my POV.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:09 am
 
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Volt K. wrote:i've been hella busy guys, I'm sorry for not posting yesterday guys and I'll try to respond to what Saiga said. I know he thought i was potential scum for not voicing my opinion but talking about it which is completely understandable, so I thought I should say who I believe to be the scummiest atm

Also I thought Foster was scummy a bit too, but he obviously is not

Jimmy Has made some very scummy plays and is one of the most suspected players atm (i think)

Shigeo I'm on the fence about this one. Been subbed around a lot, but haven't seen him talk all that much. I'd like to here more from this guy.

Toran i don't have any actual evidence but i do have a gut feeling.


That's what i think, I'm not the best scumhunter (ok I'm pretty bad xD) but this is what i think currently.


Jimmy, here. Found this from Page 18. This is what's making me really unsure now, from me having a look.

Volt was analysing the people who were brought up in conversation from that day I believe, and targets you a lot, basically is following my b/w on you. I'm really not sure if it's you or Shigeo, but this is making me lean onto Shigeo, because why would scum bring so much attention to their partner late game. Shigeo was just mentioned, and was basically defined as 'on the fence, unsure, want to hear more'. basically 50/50 split, but i'm sorta leaning towards shigeo after reading some of this stuff tbh.

ughhhhhhhhhhh halp me

by Chigusa X.
on Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:01 pm
 
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Expected that. Now then, let's discuss our final day.

About that evidence that Hanzou had.

Exhibit A.
Was pretty sure Hanzou was talking about me targeting Jimmy in that post, that was a reply with an explanation why. I just wanted to contribute and make conversation, didn't want this game to be the dead one.

Exhibit B.
I don't even know how this links to Exhibit A. Anyway, Jimmy was basically inactive for a couple of days and read only the last page, and probably did the same here. Plenty of posts that showed it through out the game.

Plus, when 'Jimmy' is talking about that, it's Saiga's quote too, and it only says about the analyse in his post. No idea if that is odd formatting but yeah, will go back and have a look soon.

Exhibit C.
Odd how Jimmy only targets town members in his post. Otherwise, I can't get much from it.

Also guys, I'm sorry I have done like nothing this game, and I'm sorry I wasn't as contributive as I have should have been. I just went for Jimmy as pressure at first, and shit happened. I followed that lead I had, and I went full for it. I know that I should have been focusing more on the other players too, just thought I had something. Him being here late game does say something (unless Shigeo is smart and is incriminating people).

Anyway, thoughts on that post, and can we please not quick-lynch anyone? We need to talk this out, and we have like 3-4 days to do so.

Gonna analyse the game and come back later on if I have found anything good.
by Chigusa X.
on Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:12 am
 
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Lynch Jimmy Q.

Reasons have been stated through out the day, just leaving my lynch here since I won't be awake at deadline. Hanzou, if you want to lynch, do it, if not, rip and we can sort this mess out on LYLO.
by Chigusa X.
on Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:14 pm
 
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Shigeo H. wrote:the thingy where Jimmy said we shouldn't follow hanzou blindly, I agree on that so I'm assuming you guys didn't really see my message how I meant it, I actually meant that right now hanzou is the best townlead we have and that if we would have a leader for town it would be hanzou IMO, though that doesn't mean that I'll blindly follow hanzou, I'll still take a look at if people are scummy to me too.


Exactly, Hanzou is most likely town here. As I said before, mafia will probably kill him tomorrow, if they didn't they are an idiot. I trust Hanzou, personally I feel the best bet is to let him give us guidance and decide our target. If it doesn't go well, oh well, we tried. Going to LYLO will hardly help if the mafia is just getting rid of an obvious townie.

And yeah, deadline soon, I'd like to make a decision soon if possible.
by Chigusa X.
on Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:41 am
 
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Hanzou S. wrote:
Chigusa X. wrote:Thanks fire mafia <3

I believe it's 2/3 right now, so I think we should discuss a bit before jumping into lynches.

Shigeo and Jimmy are personally my thoughts on scum at the moment. Hanzou has been a great aid to the town, and I think he is a townread.

Volt at the moment is a bit scummy to me, but less so compared to the other two. Still a minor possibility in my eyes.Can all of you guys share your thoughts on who you think is scum? I think it would help us gain footing and we can come to a final decision that way


Chigusa X. wrote:Volt didn't stick out to me as much over the course of the game. I never said he was a definite townread though, i don't know where you're picking that up from. I said he was possibly scum, but less so than the other two. Not gonna lynch yet anyway, we have another day or so we can use as valuable time to clear stuff up, and come to a conclusion.

Also, thoughts on lynching today or NLing?


The way you said that he was only a minor possibility struck me as odd. Another thing that strikes me is how you had no opinion on Volt, then I said that Volt may be town, and then you thought Volt was only a minor scum possibility.


I see where you're coming from with this but Volt personally just seemed more townlike. Shigeo was pretty quiet during the game at first, Jimmy's done loads of crap and Volt had been contributing a bit more, and hadn't really came up on my scum readings at that point.

Jimmy Q. wrote:'d like to NL today. Right now, Chigus and Shilgeo are my main suspects but I can't rule out Hanzou.

All the other players in the game are your suspects, nice scumread ._.

And about scummy players dieing, like 3 of the players who did die were pretty certain townreads to me, such as Saiga, Silver, Eileen and were town. A lot of the other people were either inactive, quiet and/or scummy mafia. Explain why all the 'scummy' people are dieing please.
by Chigusa X.
on Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:00 pm
 
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Volt didn't stick out to me as much over the course of the game. I never said he was a definite townread though, i don't know where you're picking that up from. I said he was possibly scum, but less so than the other two. Not gonna lynch yet anyway, we have another day or so we can use as valuable time to clear stuff up, and come to a conclusion.

Also, thoughts on lynching today or NLing?
by Chigusa X.
on Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:33 pm
 
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Jimmy Q. wrote:Ok im back. I'd like to say that i'm the least likely fire mafia. I lynched volt k awhile back. Chigusa defended Volt k when i lynched him.

We have a 1/4 chance of lynching mafia atm. We could discuss lynches atm, nl, then have a 1/3 shot at getting mafia.

Shigeo has been inactive most of the game, just like Volt K. Being inactive has been a theme for the mafia players. Volt K only posted that me, Shigeo and Toran D were mafia. Nothing about Chigusa or Hanzou

Chigusa defended Volt K when i lynched him and hasn't really suspected him all game.

Hanzou said that Volt K was town but also suspect Volt K of being mafia later on.


i recommend quoting people when they do stuff, proof or it didn't happen. All i said was that I have no opinion on him when i was identifying him. And I didn't defend him, I attacked you for that scummy end of the 1st day lynch on Volt. We had no information back then, and don't just go 'oh i thought he was fire mafia' cause literally no one can know that on the 1st day unless it's really really damn obvious or they are partners with him. If it was, please quote it and show me Smile

In future though, it would help people not have to go back and search whether someone did something if you quoted :p

In other stuff, about the lynching today/tomorrow, I think our best shot is lynching today. Mafia will probably kill the most likely town read to us and I think we should talk it out a bit and see where this goes, then come to conclusions. It's not helping us a load more.

But of course, I don't mind, if you guys want to NL, feel free, just recommending the lynch if we are able to find out the scum today.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:26 am
 
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Thanks fire mafia <3

I believe it's 2/3 right now, so I think we should discuss a bit before jumping into lynches.

Shigeo and Jimmy are personally my thoughts on scum at the moment. Hanzou has been a great aid to the town, and I think he is a townread.

Volt at the moment is a bit scummy to me, but less so compared to the other two. Still a minor possibility in my eyes.

Can all of you guys share your thoughts on who you think is scum? I think it would help us gain footing and we can come to a final decision that way
by Chigusa X.
on Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:59 am
 
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Jimmy Q. wrote:@ Chigusa, theres a difference between the hypothetical me getting lynched a few days ago to prove that Saiga and I aren't mafia partners and Lilly just going "lynch me if you want, idc you lose". I really only see the second when mafia has basically been caught and just give up.


Lily never said anything of the sort, going 'lynch me, town loses idc'. All she said was:
Lily G. wrote:Well, I really have no feasible defense to put up. If you think I'm scum, you can lynch me ^^ Right now I don't have anyone to lynch. I'm the only one acting "scummy" apparently.

Which was exactly what I was talking about, her being lynched for the benefit of town, to prevent more confusion amongst them.

Hanzou S. wrote:Chigusa I would like to point out that foster also had a similar lily lync and turned up town.
Chigusa X. wrote:Well that's one of our townleads gone :/ Anyway, this quote on lynching Lily from Jimmy is pretty scummy:

Jimmy Q. wrote:lynch lilly G.

i have never seen a villager say its ok to lynch them unless they had some weird role.


Shittiest reason to lynch ever. In future can you actually read the entire thread and ANALYSE what people say? Personally, I would happily get lynched for town if I felt it was viable and it would help clear some stuff up. With Lily gone, I feel we don't have as much confusion with things. Jimmy to me, you're pretty obvious scum, probably Fire Mafia, as you have been sorta defensive, yet quietish. What you did yesterday was scummy as fuck, and you can't deny that. All the things you've done throughout this game are mounting up and were pretty stupid to do in the first place. Lynching you atm.

Lynching Jimmy Q.


@Hanzou Of course there is that, but in a game with so few people at the moment, what are the chances that there would have been 2 dumb villagers who just lynched 2 before hammer without respecting to wait for the rest of the people who wanted to discuss more/ask Lily some more things.

Jimmy Q. wrote:"Jimmy, why do you think that chigusa and toran are the fire team? And what makes u think that the ice maf will claim?"

chigusa posted a while ago that he thought toran was done even though toran basically never posted. it just struck me oddly. Also theres still my first thought at the start of the game of volt k x chigusa. Honestly, I haven't ruled out anyone from being fire mafia. Ice mafia probably won't claim bu it was worth a shot to make the odds of lynching fire mafia 2/5.


I didn't even say Toran D. was a certain townread, all I said was I felt she was quiet before hand, and when she had picked up and began posting more, she had became more helpful person. Also, that was yesterday when Toran was very contributive. Manipulation of my words much? -.-

Today however, she has been more suspicious and is more likely scum in my eyes.

Hanzou S. wrote:Chigusa has been pushing for a jimmy lynch all game.


About this, at first I pushed for pressure, to bring up conversation between the quiet people in town, have explained this. He's slipped up way too much, and is definite scum in my eyes. Just my opinion though.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:47 pm
 
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Shigeo H. wrote:
Jimmy Q. wrote:hi, lets try to think this out

3 mafia left, 9 alive. Its a 1/3 chance to hit a mafia. I find it weird that the mafia would kill Raiden and Silver B, instead of Saiga, Chigusa, and Hanzou.

if foster and or lilly is mafia, he could have avoided killing Saiga because that would clearly put the blame on him.  

idk im just confused on why the mafia is killing people that are considered scummy and not the people leading the village


okay I just read through what the people before me posted and couldn't resist to say something about this (the user on this account before me quoted this and said something about it). I'm thinking it's pretty Obvious why the mafia tries to take out the scummy people, they try to take out the other mafia obviously. what else would they be doing? the mafia vs mafia part is a big thing, the first time I played this gamemode, a while ago, I only remember a few things from. what I remember from it is that there was not a single mafia lynched, the mafia just killed eachother, only 1 mafia survived in the end and won, town had done nothing to kill the actual mafia because it was already done for them, except for that 1 mafia of course. And the town in that game had of course tried lynching and there were lots of suspicions and things, but when the mafia were trying to stay clean the town was just making themselves scummier and scummier. My point is that the mafia isn't necessarily scummy but seeing as they usually are the mafia try to take out the other scum by killing scummy people. very long story for such a simple thing xD


Also, I remember seeing this from the previous day. Exactly what Shigeo's new sub is saying here. The mafia killing scum thing is one party trying to gain control over the town. If they get rid of the other party, they do not have to be scared about dying to the other party, and as long as they act well during the day, they can have a good shot at winning the game.
by Chigusa X.
on Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:42 am
 
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Well that's one of our townleads gone :/ Anyway, this quote on lynching Lily from Jimmy is pretty scummy:

Jimmy Q. wrote:lynch lilly G.

i have never seen a villager say its ok to lynch them unless they had some weird role.


Shittiest reason to lynch ever. In future can you actually read the entire thread and ANALYSE what people say? Personally, I would happily get lynched for town if I felt it was viable and it would help clear some stuff up. With Lily gone, I feel we don't have as much confusion with things. Jimmy to me, you're pretty obvious scum, probably Fire Mafia, as you have been sorta defensive, yet quietish. What you did yesterday was scummy as fuck, and you can't deny that. All the things you've done throughout this game are mounting up and were pretty stupid to do in the first place. Lynching you atm.

Lynching Jimmy Q.
by Chigusa X.
on Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:37 am
 
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Toran D. wrote:I still find it really odd that I subbed for someone with the same name as me. What were the chances?


plsyouknowwhatimean
by Chigusa X.
on Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:40 pm
 
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Saiga Z. wrote:This has caught my attention....

Chigusa X. Last Visit Today at 3:33 pm
Volt K. Last Visit Today at 3:08 pm

Day started at Today at 2:37 pm so why didnt they post anything? I find that very weird....


Had no time to post, sorry. Will give opinions on people, like you guys have done.

Toran D.
- Seemed scummy to me before, due to inactivity etc, but her sub has really helped me see that she could be town. Previous players inactivity could just be someone "having nothing to do caz villy"

Lily G.
- Quiet, only posts a few times every ingame day, basically what has been said. Possible scum for either parties.

Hanzou S.
- Strong townread. No signs that I've seen so far that he's scum.

Jimmy Q.
- Really pushed on Jimmy at the start, and I overexaggerated a lot of stuff, sorry. He did do some really scummy things though, although I'm thinking he's less likely scum, still could be possible for either party.

Foster U.
- Not really been focusing on Foster much, no opinion really.

Shigeo H.
- In the middle for me, unsure whether he's town or a mafia member. Nothing really outstanding I can comment on.

Saiga Z.
- Townread here, but less so than Hanzou for me. Really unsure if Saiga is great at acting or is just a helpful townie.

Volt K.
- No opinion again, sorry :<

My opinions, at least it's great to see we're getting a lynch off today. Won't lynch Lily yet, I'm wanting to see her defense like some of the others.
by Chigusa X.
on Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:35 pm
 
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Saiga Z. wrote:Chigusa, your aim is to provide 2 pieces of evidence that i explained before.

Evidence that he has some sort of link between Ryuta

Evidence that he has a link with someone that can maybe make them both fire maf


How could they not be Ice Mafia Saiga? Bit odd you're saying they have to be fire mafia.

Also, about me pushing a lynch on Jimmy, he's made some really really dumb moves as of late, and you can't deny that. He's done stuff like just following lynches saying "i agree with this post". If I hadn't made him get up and talk, he would have probably still been lurking like the other two. The conversation created has been beneficial for the town IMO and has made the game not as dead as I thought it would have been.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:24 am
 
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Hanzou S. wrote:
Raiden Y. wrote:Yea i agree with Chigusa on wanting Jimmy to speak but tbh i mainly want Foster to talk considering he was the person with the most votes at the end of the day.


Below are some posts that are similar and older that the one above.

Chigusa X. wrote:The whole 'hasn't talked much' argument is invalid in some cases, 4-6 people are pretty much dead.

As I said before, my lynch was for some conversation, if Jimmy Q could speak that would be nice, you seem to be lurking and watching the thread considering you haven't had any activity notices in the posts so far and I would like to hear your opinion on things.



Ryuta F. wrote:Sorry that I haven't being that active. Saiga bout what u asked me, yeah but I mean I like how we are scumhunting right now instead of lynching people to see their reactions but then realized its the same thing and u did jus unvote now and seems u are not favoring anybody else over anther person and also Foster, u are a little paranoid right now and did jus unvote to please Eileen as she is one of the people that is contributing most to the town and didn't stick with ur lynch nor gave any reason for why people should lynch shigeo, not saying u are definitely a scum but to jus unlynch so fast without a given reason by urself. Not completely sure on lynching u Foster but incase I'm not here tomorrow, altho I hope I'm here tomorrow to discuss more about this but I think I'm doing the right thing and we don't really got any direct information so... Lynch Foster U.


Hanzou, as I said before, when Jimmy finally DID speak up, he just talked utter crap and just said "i got a reaction guys we dids it". He has went quiet since then, not sure if he is lurking still.

Guys seriously, we need to pull off a lynch on a scummy player today, I'm not just gonna sit around and let the fire/ice mafia take control of the game. As I said over and over and over again, I seriously think Jimmy Q. is a member of either party, he just seems too obvious to not be.
by Chigusa X.
on Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:21 am
 
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Jimmy Q. wrote:sorry i thought night was gonna last longer. I voted Volt K to get a reaction out of people / Volt K and i seemed to have gotten one out of Chigusa Smile

Can't tell yet if Chigusa is protecting her mafia partner or just a confirmed scum. No one else tried to or even said anything really.



How does this even make sense? You voted Volt K. at THE END OF THE DAY. You were pretty much the last response of Day 1, and personally I felt that was pointless and pretty scummy. And I don't see how getting a reaction is someone calling you out and asking you to talk for various reasons.

Town I think we need to push a lynch today, we're losing hold of the situation and we need to regain control. Personally, I think I'm dead soon, and that Jimmy Q. is either scumteam, or just a really stupid villy.
by Chigusa X.
on Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:13 pm
 
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As I said before, we should be looking at the lurkers. I especially wanted Jimmy Q to speak up and say something due to him being quiet but still lurking around and:

Jimmy Q. wrote:lynch Volt K.


I would like to ask why have you been so quiet and why did you only give a lynch as a response, you seem terribly scummy and I feel you're either one of the parties personally.

Lynching Jimmy Q.
by Chigusa X.
on Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:52 pm
 
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Ryuta F. wrote:Also think bout this guys
Chigusa X. wrote:Eileen has a great point, we should discuss some more before we go into our lynches yet. Personally, I'm going to lynch:

Vote Jimmy Q.

Chigusa X. wrote:The whole 'hasn't talked much' argument is invalid in some cases, 4-6 people are pretty much dead.

As I said before, my lynch was for some conversation, if Jimmy Q could speak that would be nice, you seem to be lurking and watching the thread considering you haven't had any activity notices in the posts so far and I would like to hear your opinion on things.

Hasn't talked (yet) and would like to get some more conversation going.


almost like foster's argument. U are saying why Chugasa but I mean lynching inactive people isn't the best idea but don't know about lurkers so do we discuss this also, like what to do bout a lurker?


Of course we discuss this also, it would be dumb not to. The inactive people have a much larger chance of being a member of the town rather than the lurkers.
by Chigusa X.
on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:49 am
 
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The whole 'hasn't talked much' argument is invalid in some cases, 4-6 people are pretty much dead.

As I said before, my lynch was for some conversation, if Jimmy Q could speak that would be nice, you seem to be lurking and watching the thread considering you haven't had any activity notices in the posts so far and I would like to hear your opinion on things.
by Chigusa X.
on Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:56 pm
 
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Eileen has a great point, we should discuss some more before we go into our lynches yet. Personally, I'm going to lynch:

Vote Jimmy Q.

Hasn't talked (yet) and would like to get some more conversation going.
by Chigusa X.
on Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:41 am
 
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confirmation on confirming to be in.
by Chigusa X.
on Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:29 pm
 
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