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by O O.
on Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:02 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

got the most points this round Very Happy
by O O.
on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:58 am
 
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huh, i just realized in both games vig never shot scum....
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:58 pm
 
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i think it was too close to the end of the day + there was a fairly strong wagon on her + she didn't have the time, which led to things going the way they went.
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:57 pm
 
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Yuzo K. wrote:#hirokididnothingwrong

if Lila didn't have complete garbage shots I feel like town would have won. Not even that she shot town but that she shot a few of the least scummy town

claudina was in the middle, not really scummy but not townie whatsoever
hiroki shot was wtf though
doubt i couldve clutched the victory had hiroki lived, but who knows. maybe he becomes scummier or something as the days go on and i still win.
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:45 pm
 
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oh yeah re: os vig slipup i legitimately did not see that it was os vig, which was why i played so badly on day 1 (wanted to make sure i didnt get shot by scum vig LOL)
i appreciate the compliment though, nicolette. thanks!
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:43 pm
 
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Game 31: Separated Scum

mafia sweep Wink
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:36 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

yeah i have no idea why hiroki got shot, would love to hear that one lol
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:34 pm
 
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honestly hats off to nicolette though she played really well and effectively forced me into a situation where i had a 50/50 shot to win (plus she got her desired lylo Razz)
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:29 pm
 
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wtf aj doesnt include my inspect on myself n5 smfh
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:27 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

for what its worth my play in general tends to be passive until i find someone scummy, which makes me switch to being more active

i think i wasn't really passive at all on the last few days either, being the solo mafia remaining really hyped me up and made me want to "carry the team on my back" or so to speak

re: titus lynch i was on my phone and walking back and i was in town mode and was like "titus is town lets lynch the other guy"
for what its worth i thought my remaining partner was teaque so it was just lynching one town over another (another who would likely be a ml later down the road + someone who would tr me for saving them).

i think not lynching marilyn when i had the opportunity to also helped me out a ton, although to be completely fair the case against teaque was MUCH BETTER than the case against Marilyn

in short i strategically played suboptimally in the short-term to benefit myself in the long-term. glad the risk paid off.

had a ton of fun playing with you all, this may be the most fun i've had in anon for a long while. here's to the next game!
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:27 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

O O. - Search Giphy

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ggs!
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:17 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

ill spam him too
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:06 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I feel like a broken record

O O. wrote:
I’ve said it before but i’ll say it again. Yes,  Marilyn’s defense of the unlynch pressure was good (mostly because I don’t think she actually did anything wrong, nor was it really scummy). Yes, she’s been incredibly active and has pushed a scumread. With both of those in mind, however, there are a few reasons that I think marilyn is scum.
For one, I think her interactions with the other scum (although more yuzo than linda) have been in a way that makes her look worse; especially with yuzo saying things that could be used in her defense. Next, her argument against me was absolutely terrible. She tried to imply that most of my posts were useless and then cherrypicked from my content to push that narrative. When she got called out, she ended that discussion, never actually responded to my question/statement, and moved on to a new read. Her argument was also full of hypocrisy, as she had as many or more filler posts as I did, and this has apparently also been the case when she was pushing Titus (at least I remember him noting something hypocritical that Marilyn was doing). She also looked at things in a black-and-white way: she scumread me for answering questions, and when I asked she commented that this was because they were fairly obvious and thus didn’t deserve towncred. That’s a really harmful town way to look at things / common mafia mistake, as not everything is either good or bad (although too much of pure neutral is really bad). Assuming that everything must fit into one of those two categories is a way to make an excuse for or create a poor argument around scumreading someone. Finally, I don’t think she actually did anything yesterday aside from tunnel Titus and then say she wouldn’t be very active for a while (correct me if i’m wrong on this one, because I just don’t remember anything else).

Alright that was a good amount of stuff, so ill take any and all questions/comments you do and should have!


O O. wrote:
arguments to lynch marilyn: filler, built poor arguments w/ cherrypicking and hypocrisy, associations with yuzo, ignoring/skirting around questions, looking at things in black-and-white, not done much overall aside from defending self/pushing titus (lynching teaque doesnt count, afaik she lynched him because he was a wildcard??? and then scumread titus more while simultaneously pushing a narrative of teaque as scum which i still cant wrap my head around)

thats just my late-night restating just in case i managed to miss anything. i struck out the things that i feel marilyn adequately defended herself from.
I would add her lynch on teaque to scummy things though because iirc she had no real reason to lynch teaque (aside from self-preservation) but tried to pass it off as her having a valid reason to lynch him.

Lynch Marilyn M.

pre-emptively answering the eod stuff: marilyn put herself in a bad situation with lylo with two people she strongly townread, so what I saw at eod yesterday looked to me like an attempt to gain towncred by pretending to think that the game was over, in hopes that it could prevent her lynch the next day. I saw through it and called it out, but note i'm not scumreading her for it but just saying it doesn't make her look any more townie.
by O O.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:48 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I'm denying your attempted townslip
by O O.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

smh
by O O.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:01 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Had we gone to a Titus Nicolette me lylo I would have questioned Nicolette on several things that I did not like (most of these were answered unintentionally in her latest post) and likely lynched Titus unless earth shattering info came out that made Nicolette seem like likely scum.
Titus' play today has been extremely poor, especially considering that he promised a lot of things at the start of the day and during the previous one. It can't really be helped, though.
Effectively one of the reasons I've been willing to dismiss titus's shenanigans to the extent that I have is because of the way he reached near death - that tends to be the most genuine for everyone and his reaction was o push town to change their thought process and to ask people what their plans for the future were after a town!totud lynch
I suppose it's my fault for not restating those points sooner but so be it.

If you guys wanted to know what my questions for Nicolette were it was why she ignored my questions re Marilyn's argument and who she'd vote for in a me Marilyn an her lylo along with one other thing that I unfortunately cannot remember right now

Deadline is in a bit more than 5 minutes so eyes to hoping I'm wrong, I guess
by O O.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:53 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Hello it is me
I am on my phone

To answer your question, Marilyn: lynch Marilyn M
Ultimately nothing's really happened today that would change my opinion. I feel that Titus is town and that you are the final scum.
That being said, this vote is mostly symbolic since I doubt I'll convince Nicolette to switch (and even if I would, she probably won't come online to switch anyways)
Effectively I think my giyread plus the way he handled his almost lynch (before I saved him) make me think he's town. @nicolette: I think his question of what you would do in a me you Marilyn lylo is coming from a town Titus who sees his lynch as inevitable and wants to know your thoughts do that he could pitch in his own.
More coming in a bit I've gotta do something
by O O.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:40 pm
 
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well, i'm heading off for tonight. hopefully people come on before deadline or i'll be disappointed.
i'll be checking back around when dl hits but likely wont be able to post anything until then
by O O.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:54 am
 
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aj requesting an extended deadline because half the game hasnt been online for two days and id really prefer if we could have some more time to discuss instead of having dl tomorrow, given that i'll be away (on phone) at deadline
by O O.
on Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:13 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

guys, come on... we're so close to winning and now is NOT the time to stop posting!

in all honesty as I compiled the reasons to lynch marilyn and titus i began to see why nicolette wants to lynch titus over marilyn.

he's done a good amount of scummy things, some of which are pretty bad. I think that in titus' case, several of the things (miller theory, forcedness, eod presence) can be attributed to playstyle, but then you've gotta wonder whether these things come from a town or mafia train of thought. I think that many of these make sense to be coming from mafia, which does make him look worse imo. from interacting with him i've gotten a strong townread which is likely why i haven't even considered a lot of these points to the extent that I have now.

that's not to say that I don't believe in my case on marilyn, though. I still think that there are several strong points that have been conceded/not talked about very much wrt her and although there are points i've conceded those tend to be the weaker ones that rest on theory or have circumstantial evidence. From interacting with her i don't get the same townie feel that I get from titus, which is honestly not that great of a way to differentiate the two but its pushing me more than it maybe should. perhaps im suffering from tunnel vision but the same thing that led me to lynch yuzo over titus is making me want to lynch marilyn over titus again; i can see the points against titus but i have a good town gutread on him and thats making me very hesitant to lynch him
maybe titus is scum and i just dont want to admit that my gutreads are wrong given that they tend to be correct most of the time. i dont really know.

im just kinda rambling at this point because nobody's posting anything and i have nothing to talk about but please ask me questions or something about what i've said, or ask me to rephrase things if it was incoherent etc
by O O.
on Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 pm
 
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Marilyn M. wrote:Filler? Really? I get that I fillered as much as you and I accused you of it, but I don't think it's a reason for me to be lynched, just as you didn't see it as a reason for you to be lynched.

iirc when i pointed out filler you had more than I did. to be fair, though, there hasn't been any filler from you post day 3 (i think).

Marilyn M. wrote:
Ignoring/skirting around questions: The only thing Incan think if is the question Titus asked me. I didn't see him asking for the more detailed answer, and when you brought it up I answered. If you can name other examples of this, that would be great

its that and then you ignoring me asking you to elaborate on your argument eod2

Marilyn M. wrote:
Not done much aside from scumhunt and defend myself
What else do you want me to do? That's literally the 2 things you do in mafia. I've made multiple posts explaining why Titus should be lynched. I did them all on titus because I feel he is the best lynch, so I should push him ahead of others

thats simplifying what i said, you only were pushing titus and didn't really look at anyone else
i suppose a lot of us are guilty of that at some point though so i'll concede the point

Marilyn M. wrote:
The thing with TQ+Titus is similar to Titus' thing with him and me. I wasn't sure which was scum. I felt it was more likely that Titus was scum, but nobody was lynching them, so I lynched Teaque, who I also thought could have been scum

The way you phrased your post conveyed something completely different. based on the way you explained yourself it also seemed like you were just lynching teaque for self-preservation, which is fine, but you tried to pretend like you had actula reasoning to do so.

Marilyn M. wrote:
Conclusion: most things I have done bad, Titus had done worse

idk how you got that conclusion from the points above but ok

unrelated to this, this activity is absolutely abysmal. you guys have things that you can talk about (e.g. the things i asked you to!), this really shouldn't just be me and marilyn posting every day.
by O O.
on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:27 pm
 
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ill look at what's already been said tomorrow sorry if i repeated things because i just skimmed the new stuff
by O O.
on Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:19 am
 
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alright guys remind me not to ever promise to look back again that was actually agonizing
i've done it way too much at this point and i'm not doing it again

im also STILL incredibly tired so the lists will be shite but regardless i put an hour or two into looking back so here you go (lists will likely not be complete as im struggling to stay awake rn)

arguments to lynch titus: miller theory stuff, pinged own scumtells, reacted very poorly to pressure, seemed to have very forced reactions, scummy plurshift???, lazy town/coasting mafia play, extremely poor/scummy eod presence, not following up on what he said he'd do (i added this one because i still dont see the cop inspects post from him), not done much overall aside from defending himself

arguments to lynch marilyn: filler, built poor arguments w/ cherrypicking and hypocrisy, associations with yuzo, ignoring/skirting around questions, looking at things in black-and-white, not done much overall aside from defending self/pushing titus (lynching teaque doesnt count, afaik she lynched him because he was a wildcard??? and then scumread titus more while simultaneously pushing a narrative of teaque as scum which i still cant wrap my head around)

if you dont feel like reading that whatever
marilyn go defend yourself from whatever you haven't yet
titus go write the posts that you said you would
nicolette argue with me as to why the reasons to lynch titus are worse (ie hes scummier) than the ones to lynch marilyn and if you think the case on marilyn is justified because i havent gotten much outta you re: that
by O O.
on Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:19 am
 
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im super tired but i plan on compiling the arguments for marilyn and titus being town/scum tomorrow
not today though because im pooped

in relation to yesterday i really dont like titus's eod play
would like to hear the posts he was going to make at eod2 but ran out of time for (including the cop inspects one, which i think is the only relevant one he said he would do d3?)

main diff between marilyn and titus for me: my head sees reason for both of them to be scum, but my gut feels titus is town while it feels marilyn is scum.
by O O.
on Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:51 pm
 
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