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Rita O. wrote:Also leona can you tell us your reason for killing OMS? lmao

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ajhockeystar wrote:Scum QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/XmvkZe62icY9

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Keanu R. wrote:Confirming

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Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Assuming Tierra dies, I say Morrison or you. More likely Morrison though if he keeps his activity.

what if Tierra does not die?
How would you rank people from towniest to scummiest right now?

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Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Assuming Tierra dies, I say Morrison or you. More likely Morrison though if he keeps his activity.

what if Tierra does not die?
How would you rank people from towniest to scummiest right now?

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Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

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Wilbur R. wrote:wait no leona i think you just quoted the wrong post, i don't see how rita's post has anything to do with day 1

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Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Lynching implies a scum-read, which I don't have any. As I checked you also didn't lynch anyone right? It's probably a similar reason. Also, what other accusations? Thought I covered it all.

I thought you scumread Morrison?

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Rita O. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:I have already stated why I don't think Morrison nor Tierra are the mafia so I am just gonna talk about Wilbur and Leona.

So what I like about Leona during this game is how most of her reasoning is solid and true, for instance the big post that she dedicated for the nightkill analysis and also the readlist she did, all the reasoning she gave I couldn't really find any flaws with it. (Although I still think the guy who killed OMS didnt notice that tierra's UL shifted plurality onto keanu which made her a fairly solid townread lol). Even though she hasn't been scumhunting as much as i wanted her to, in terms of the content in her posts it's been pretty good.

However there are a few reasons why I believe she might be mafia. First of all idk if she's stalling or not but I don't think it's fair to say that she is stalling in case she actually has a busy schedule. However what I dont like is why she made a whole post dedicated to the nightkill on day 3 when it wasnt the most important topic of discussion when she could have perhaps combined it with replying to the post where i talked about why Leona could be mafia or any other post that was useful in terms of finding who the scum is. I guess thats what you would call stalling coz it meant that we had to wait 2 more days for you to have started scumhunting on day 3 and also 3 more days until i got the reply i wanted.

Also here's something i noticed from day 1:

Leona L. wrote:

McGinty P. wrote:24 hours later, one person speaks. aj, get your subs ready... or just remind everyone. Please, we need some activity to scumhunt.

I appreciate your efforts to encourage discussion, but all your posts have been this without actually contributing to the actual scum hunting. If you want to scum hunt, then you should lead it. Also I'm not sure how much information we can gain from day 1 since we are still in RVS stage.

I do agree with the Hypo strategy since there is a possibility of a Mafia Roleblocker.

This seems like a pretty good quality post...until you put it into perspective with when it was posted. McGinty was trying to spur activity that wasnt shitpost and only ellen actually posted something useful at the time, however Leona here is telling McGinty that he should be scumhunting instead of urging people to post. But at the time there wasnt anything that he could have analysed which makes this post feel like an unnecessary aggressive attempt to seem townie. What confuses me tho is how she then added that on RVS stage you cant actually get decent information, so then why did she criticise the fact that McGinty wasnt scumhunting? It makes the first part of the post even more of a shoehorned attempt of seeming townie.

btw you havent really said any thoughts about morrison yet, but i am guessing that will be coming in your post.

Having some experience with PSANON, activity is a huge issue (with forum mafia in general). Asking for more activity honestly doesn't do anything, unless you pressure by lynching. At that moment, it seems to me that McGinty acted like a "White Knight". Also, personally, I don't think any effective scum-hunting begins on Day 1. Sure, we got mafia out, but Day 2 provided much more detailed scum-hunting. This is why I said this.

So then if you believe activity would rise if we pressure lynched then why didnt you do so? (As far as i can remember i dont think you lynched at all day 1). Also pls reply to other accusation too.

Leona L. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:Also our conversation gradually got more casual lol. But in the end when I think about the circumstances in terms of times and stuff, it makes the most sense to suggest that it was a self-conscious act. Like even tho I am trying to take into account everything you said, reading after your most recent post without even noticing the tomorrow bit at the end AND somehow reading the posts but not making the connection. And it seems you would have most likely checked it afternoon so you wouldnt have been very tired. So idk but all this circumstantial things piling up makes it more far-fetched

If this was directed to me, I can guarantee that I did not make up I was busy. Winter Holiday is very busy for me, especially considering I sleep very late which makes me very tired throughout the day. I said I would post by Morning EST because that would be around the time I would have arrived after travelling and can sit down with a computer. However, I had to go to a surprise party which meant I couldn't type and when I came back I just fell asleep. Think of it as what you will, but I did not lie about my activity. As I said, I want to be very detailed about my post, which means probably at least 2-3 hours of just typing straight up. It's hard to find that time.

Nah it wasnt directed at you dw. I understand that you had a busy schedule, it was just frustrating.

Tbf Leona brought to light stuff that I didnt notice before about Morrison which is interesting (well only the first point really struck me as "dayum true") but I dont feel like its fair of we lynch him without allowing him to defend himself coz then a repeat of day 2 might happen. Also as time passed i always felt that morrison's intentions were genuine even tho it may feel odd. Perhaps my instinct is wrong tho.

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Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:
The inconsistencies were listed above, sorry if it seems like I over-exaggerated. As for why Morrison may have lynched you rather than Ellen, I think at that point not a lot of people suspected Ellen and since you had the cop thing going it was easier to pin-point a "reason". Also, it may be because Rita already had lynched you (Similar to the Ellen case tbh). Lastly, the quotes are on page 6 just before Morrison lynched you.

Hm. alright.
I looked back and Morrison said that he didn't notice that my lynch shifted plurality away from Keanu, not that my lynch was a bw. I think you just misinterpreted it.

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Morrison Z. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:Alright so I still believe that McGinty is very likely town and also that ellen and morrison arent likely to be the 2nd mafia. Therefore I will make my lynch out of the remaining three.

Tierra: Even if lets say she didnt realise plurality will be on Keanu, she still would have kept the lynch on morrison because a mafia will always seize an opportunity for a mislynch and I doubt anyone would have questioned her about it because she didnt BW but tierra instead went against it which makes me believe that Tierra is less likely to be mafia that others.

Leona: Although some things she said have been slightly scummy, i appreciate that she is actually being useful to town and I respect that. I could only lynch her if I have a good reason that can justify a sacrifice of activity.

Wilbur: For starters you promised to make a post about the mafia "tomorrow" (which is yesterday when I am writing this post) however you failed to meet deadlines. Not only that but I was trying to look up the last time you visited but it says "Unknown" which means that you have put your status on hidden. This is against the rules and there is no reason why a townie would do that. But it seems that yesterday you did get on but to hide the fact you didn't do what you promised to do so you resorted to break the rules. Anyway next I have taken a look at your ISO and it's evident you've only been talking about the cop but that isnt really the problem. It's the fact that when you lynched morrison all you said is "I'll sheep it" which clearly means you BWd  out of nowhere to put the plurality onto morrison but it didnt work because tierra unlynched morrison. Finally if what I said about the nightkill is true, you are the most likely person to do such a thing because your posts start on page 2 and your first post is replying to the hypo suggestion so it seems likely that you just skipped the RVS shitposting because you thought it's irrelevant. Ofc on its own this isnt nearly enough to convict you however I am just using it as a supporting point just to show that you are the best person to lynch for this day because you are what people call "an active lurker", you arent inactive but you dont really help town and that imo is the worst kind of player.

lynch Wilbur

Tbh I didn't think Wilbur could be scum until I read the explanation. I don't agree with all of it but I actually didn't notice the part I bolded. Was Keanu lynched before the first lynch on me yesterday? Cause if so then it would make sense. I'm gonna go read more into day 1 and post later.

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Morrison Z. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:About the hidden thing, it turns out AJ didnt make it a rule but i thought it was coz AJ used to keep removing the hidden status. The hidden thing per se wasnt the scummy bit, it was the fact that in your previous post you said that you will post about the actual mafia "tomorrow". This to me showed that you had to go to bed or maybe you were busy so you cant log in for the rest of the day. I checked after that day and on the members list it showed the time and date of you last being here so it wasnt hidden yet. But i checked now and i saw that it has been hidden. This means you've logged on between then and now and put your status to hidden instead of posting which begs the question, why? Thats why its scummy.

I don't think "sheeping" is a widly used term tbh because it wasnt really just me who commented about that. In day 1 both tierra and ellen got annoyed at you for BW and said that they weren't a sheep. So they probably believed it meant another word for BW. That being said, even if its day 1, i disagree that you layer the lynch straight after the first person lynched without them explaining and making themselves useful especially when it was just because he's trolling. Which is why your lynch can still, with good reason, be classed as a bandwagon to get plurality on to morrison and ensure Keanu doesnt get lynched.

About the final point, its a very weak one which is why i said that it can barely convict you of anything. But I took into consideration the reasons why the nightkill happened and i thought about doc protection, OMS being doc and the fact OMS was the first lynch on keanu. I didnt think OMS being doc made sense and I explained that in a previous post. I didnt think OMS being the least protected was the reason because there were better targets that werent likely protected either. So OMS being the first lynch on Keanu made some sense only if the mafia decided the kill on AJs post. Since you replied when RVS ended it could be said that you didnt pay attention in the RVS stage and also because OMS's post was long you could have missed the lynch bit entirely while skimming coz you disregarded it as shitpost. Again this is a very weak point against you so dont dwell on it too much.

I mostly used process of elimination to get to the decision that Wilbur is the best lynch because McGinty and Tierra are unlikely mafia. Ellen and morrison are unlikely to make the kill against OMS because they made it clear that they have acknowledged OMs's post because they replied to it. So it leaves Wilbur and Leona and Wilbur felt scummier in my eyes. Wilbur if you can convince me that you are less scummier than Leona and provide some cutting edge analysis then I will unlynch you.

Speaking of Leona, I wonder why she or ellen arent speaking. I know i said ellen probably isnt mafia but it doesnt mean she isnt scummy...

I did go to sleep after posting that i'd make a post tomorrow, then never did because i'm lazy.
aj removed my hidden status and i put it back on. Thought I said this already but I may have forgotten, it's just something we do regardless of what my role is.
The way I use sheeping is to mean that you're following a lynch for the exact same reasons that had already been put forward. It's basically the same as bandwagoning.
At the point I lynched Morrison, he was easily the best lynch for filler (Keanu didn't filler until after my post, by which time I had already stopped checking psanon I think). I think that because you think i'm scum, you're using confirmation bias in a lot of your points (by that I mean that they're very opinionated and there isnt really anything factually true in them). Your logic of not having acknowledged that a post has been made = not having read the post is flawed, and that's really the only thing you've used to eliminate Morrison and Ellen. I don't think that's valid at all. I'm not going to attempt to convince you that Leona is scum because I think she's town.
Also stop asking me to not dwell on your points while you're still lynching me. I think your case is weak, and i'm pointing out why.

For the part that I have bolded, I'd like to point out that Keanu had a total of two posts, and both of them were before you lynched me, so unless u weren't reading the chat, you were aware of his filler/ non willingness to contribute.

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Wilbur R. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:
Tbf i still do it even tho rita isnt my real name either lol. I did explain why i dont think OMS is doc so maybe thats why I am not accepting it as a theory that makes sense.

Maybe she changed her mind and decided to do it all in one post? Its bedtime soon tho

Alright, no idea then. Maybe different people react differently to being mentioned?
I can't really think of any better reason to kill OMS so that's why i'm going with the reasoning Leona provided.
Unfortunately that was not the case : x

Leona L. wrote:Starting with Morrison:

Day 1 Morrison was mainly filler, up until one post where he said this line "Not naming names, but I would appreciate it if you guys didn't blindly bandwagon because thats always the reason behind a townie getting lynched day 1"

That was probably directed to Wilbur, because he "sheep'd" it whereas McGinty actually explained his reasons on Keanu lynch. While reading this, I was wondering why Morrison didn't lynch Keanu to be safer, per se. It's not like Keanu did much anyways. (That, and also the fact that Morrison was "plurshifting" to save himself day 2). Perhaps that's a reason to support them as a scum team.

Good point actually, Morrison not lynching Keanu is kind of weird. That being said, it's possible that he thought that there would be enough time for someone to unlynch? Either that or he resigned himself to dying lol.

Leona L. wrote:
There was one post of him that said Wilbur's post after the nightkill seems pre-typed as scum, but I find it a little ironic that Morrison's first post Day 2 was also pre-typed.

With that said, I will still say that his reaction to getting lynched by Ellen was not defensive. Although most often players tend to be defensive as deadline approaches.

His read-list was alright, provided brief but okay reasoning. However, I can't help but to think it was very neutral i.e. there were no, say, a "scum read." Also interesting was what Morrison meant by "But I actually just realized something but its not safe to say so I'll keep it to myself until the time is right." regarding Wilbur.

He thought I was doctor.

Leona L. wrote:
Another thing that felt off to me was "Tbh I didn't think Wilbur could be scum until I read the explanation. I don't agree with all of it but I actually didn't notice the part I bolded." which was a response to Rita's"It's the fact that when you lynched morrison all you said is "I'll sheep it" which clearly means you BWd  out of nowhere to put the plurality onto morrison but it didnt work because tierra unlynched morrison.". He must have noticed right, since he said don't blindly bandwagon? Or am I misunderstanding here.

I'd have to go look at it again, not sure. What page was this on?

Leona L. wrote:
I find his reasoning to lynch Wilbur a little weak, which is supported by my point above. That is understandable though, cause Morrison had to choose between Wilbur or Ellen. Personally, I'm not sure whether he would lynch Ellen had Rita not initiate it.

It was pretty weak. Why do you think he went after me instead of Ellen though? I feel like going after Ellen is much easier than going after me, so him lynching me when he has a better option (imo) doesn't make sense there.

Leona L. wrote:
This is what I can find about Morrison, so I'll just provide a conclusion: Morrison is active and provide good content, but there are some inconsistencies that could prove he's mafia. He also seems to be a little hasty without too strong of a reason to backup his arguments. To me, Morrison is Leaning Scum.

What inconsistencies did you spot? I only saw the issue about not noticing my bw in your post.

will check back now.

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Rita O. wrote:Also our conversation gradually got more casual lol. But in the end when I think about the circumstances in terms of times and stuff, it makes the most sense to suggest that it was a self-conscious act. Like even tho I am trying to take into account everything you said, reading after your most recent post without even noticing the tomorrow bit at the end AND somehow reading the posts but not making the connection. And it seems you would have most likely checked it afternoon so you wouldnt have been very tired. So idk but all this circumstantial things piling up makes it more far-fetched

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Rita O. wrote:I have already stated why I don't think Morrison nor Tierra are the mafia so I am just gonna talk about Wilbur and Leona.

So what I like about Leona during this game is how most of her reasoning is solid and true, for instance the big post that she dedicated for the nightkill analysis and also the readlist she did, all the reasoning she gave I couldn't really find any flaws with it. (Although I still think the guy who killed OMS didnt notice that tierra's UL shifted plurality onto keanu which made her a fairly solid townread lol). Even though she hasn't been scumhunting as much as i wanted her to, in terms of the content in her posts it's been pretty good.

However there are a few reasons why I believe she might be mafia. First of all idk if she's stalling or not but I don't think it's fair to say that she is stalling in case she actually has a busy schedule. However what I dont like is why she made a whole post dedicated to the nightkill on day 3 when it wasnt the most important topic of discussion when she could have perhaps combined it with replying to the post where i talked about why Leona could be mafia or any other post that was useful in terms of finding who the scum is. I guess thats what you would call stalling coz it meant that we had to wait 2 more days for you to have started scumhunting on day 3 and also 3 more days until i got the reply i wanted.

Also here's something i noticed from day 1:

Leona L. wrote:

McGinty P. wrote:24 hours later, one person speaks. aj, get your subs ready... or just remind everyone. Please, we need some activity to scumhunt.

I appreciate your efforts to encourage discussion, but all your posts have been this without actually contributing to the actual scum hunting. If you want to scum hunt, then you should lead it. Also I'm not sure how much information we can gain from day 1 since we are still in RVS stage.

I do agree with the Hypo strategy since there is a possibility of a Mafia Roleblocker.

This seems like a pretty good quality post...until you put it into perspective with when it was posted. McGinty was trying to spur activity that wasnt shitpost and only ellen actually posted something useful at the time, however Leona here is telling McGinty that he should be scumhunting instead of urging people to post. But at the time there wasnt anything that he could have analysed which makes this post feel like an unnecessary aggressive attempt to seem townie. What confuses me tho is how she then added that on RVS stage you cant actually get decent information, so then why did she criticise the fact that McGinty wasnt scumhunting? It makes the first part of the post even more of a shoehorned attempt of seeming townie.

btw you havent really said any thoughts about morrison yet, but i am guessing that will be coming in your post.

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