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Game 11: Vengeful Mafia Mafia
Agatha A. wrote:hmpf, even I knew it was butler, and I only started reading a few days ago! I didn't even read back!
Also, I tried to save you osashi, but it didn't work :c
it's my fault dw
- on Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:56 am
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Well played Mafia!Surprised how game 12's activity surpassed game 11 even though you guys started out better than us.
@Makino, I don't think our avatars are that creepy imo
- on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:33 am
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Game 12: Vengeful Mafia Mafia
ajhockeystar wrote:Votecount 5.3
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Warden H.(4)- Natchi F., Agatha A., Mizuho N., Kezoki Q. HAMMER
Brendan T.(0)-
Osashi D.(0)-
Kezoki Q.(0)-
Agatha A.(0)-
Mizuho N.(0)-
Wakana O.(0)-
Natchi F.(0)-
Not Voting(6)- Wakana O., Osashi D., Agatha A., Warden H., Kezoki Q., Mizuho N., Brendan T.
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There are 7 alive so it takes 4 to hammer. Plurality applies.
The village is in lylo.
Deadline is Monday the 15th at 9pm EST.
Warden H. the Vanilla Townie was lynched! This means...
Brendan T., Kezoki Q.,, and Mizuho N., the Mafia Goons win!
Points distribution will be up tomorrow most likely (or today if I have time), and postgame will be done when the other game is done. Scum QT will be put up with the postgame, please remind me to include it if I forget Also player guessing will be put up right when the other game ends, and before the postgame. GG!
Good game mafia. I think you all played very well although Kezoki and Brendan were scummy to me in the beginning. Following this game, I also think Mizuho lost a bit of townie feeling at the end of the game. Fun Fact: I actually guessed all 3 mafias correctly after I died, ask AJ
Still very good effort from the mafia indeed. I felt I have made some misplays but I do not regret my choices. If I kept my lynch on Kezoki, may be things could have be a bit different.
- on Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:47 pm
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Final report of PSAnon Game 12 - Vengeful Mafia Mafia. This is Osashi, third death of the game, signing off.Good luck town.
Bahhhhhh
- on Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:39 am
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Anyways too much ranting. Good night.- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:04 pm
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Also I don't know if i should lynch kezoki and secure my position.... AhhhbhhsjkshgkskhdjsmsmslskdhMizuho come on imo
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:04 pm
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Where is the "hole" in my list?- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:02 pm
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Kezoki Q. wrote:Yes, and coming online once a week to post your reads without explaining your absence isn't scummy at all. I don't have to defend myself, while me natchi and mizuho were arguing over who to lynch you said absolutely nothing.
This is the post i'm talking about btw.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:00 pm
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Kezoki Q. wrote:Osashi D. wrote:
Kezoki Q as Leaning Scum: I must admit that some of my posts regarding Kezoki early on is bias. First of all, I really wanted to keep playing in this game so I kind panicked that he lynched me. However, it is not totally due to personal feelings as I already said that he may be scum during Day 2 which was not influenced by panicking. His posts early on were scummy to me. He quickly changed his mind when lynching and had a mindset of inactive = scummy. This can be seen as lynch-happy because he was reckless to make decisions, especially when he says things like "i don't care if this is scummy af but I have my reasons". The fact that he responded to my first read list with sarcasm gives of a mafia feel to me. Also when I questioned he lynch, he would say things like "Do you have a better idea?" which to me gives off a feeling that he is lynch-happy. He even admitted that he lynched me early because he thought he wouldn't have enough time to post, which to me, implies that he is afraid of me lynching him first. Kezoki also mentions the inactives often during the end of this day, maybe he is just trying to sway attention?
I'll reply to this part and we can decide what to do then. Lynch-Happy is not a bad thing. Lynch-Happy = agressive, and to be honest I am always aggressive, whether as town or mafia. That's just how I play. You can't just say hey this guys wants to lynch people so he's obviously scum, the objective of this game is to find out who the mafia is, people crack under pressure, and the best way to pressure them is to lynch them.
I did not respond to your first list with sarcasm, I legit found a hole in it, and explained my point. And yes, I stand on my decision to call out the inactives. Guilty until proven innocent IMO, and the more you stay away from the game during important moments, the guiltier you are.
Okay, maybe one last post. I have already mentioned why i think being aggressive in this format isn't too good. Also you clearly used sarcasm, please don't say you didn't. My fate is in your hands anyway, and if you truly believe that my efforts i proved today was not enough to prove that i am not the best lynch target then there is nothing i can do.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:59 pm
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Anyways, I am out for tonight.Hopefully you guys trust me, or at least gained some information from me
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:51 pm
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Oh i should mention that if we do lynch a mafia, we should pay attention to the kill afterwards. Mafia is likely to target someone not scummy or most useful to town, so if some people you expect to die didn't die, then he/she may be mafia.- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:40 pm
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Phew.. that took a long time but hope it was worth it!- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:38 pm
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Starting my read list with the inactives one first because their posts are less and I can analyzed them faster:Wakana O. as Town: Despite not having a lot of posts, her posts are not what a mafia would say. First of all, it lacks motive. In her earlier posts, she mentioned Toran D. If she was mafia, I don't think there was any reason to post that. The general tone of the posts are town-like. For example, she mentioned that if you are evading and fillering, you are more likely to get lynched. and "I don't know why you guys lynched Jenina". These statements are very town-like to me, however, it could be argued that she is trying to look town and thinking long-term. However, her activity has dropped so I doubt she is thinking long-term.
Warden H as Town: Warden H is similar to Wakana imo. His posts are very town-like in my opinion. I like his attitude of questioning Mizuho's scumlist which seems like something a townie would do. There is also no signs of any mafia motive found.
Brendan T as SCUM: This might be a bit weird to think that we have enough information to determine that an inactive as scum. However, looking back at his posts I found something suspicious. "Just from skimming I found Kenzo the scummiest", how could he do that if Kenzo didn't talk at all? Also the fact that he ignored Kenzo death is also pretty suspicious, since it shows that either he didn't pay attention to the host posts which arguably is the most important things to look for when you are skimming through or just making stuff up to look townie. With these reasons I think he is scum.
Nicolai I as NULL: Literally no information about him. Wait until he comes online and talk I guess.
Natchi F as Neutral: I have mixed feelings when I read Natchi posts. I think he didn't start any new ideas much, but rather commented on what others said or think. His reasoning for lynching also isn't the strongest - the lynch of Jenina was mainly based on his feelings. Also, I think the comments he made are based mainly on what ifs rather than what has said. He seems to disagree more than agree is what I'm trying too say here. However, his effort of replying seems really town-like, therefore, I have mixed opinions about him.
Agatha A as Leaning Scum: Looking back, there were so many people against her in the early game that it makes me think that it is impossible for her to be mafia. However, it is possible that the mafia are the inactive people. Another reason I think Agatha may potentially be scum is the fact that she said useless things in the beginning and even mentioned that she wasn't interested in the game but her next post begged for her to live the next day. Her read list isn't that strong either to be honest. It mentioned arguments that doesn't really determine if someone is mafia/town or arguments that have been posted before. She also seems to be in the middle too much, such as, I don't know.. hmm I think this but may be that. This makes me think that she is leaning mafia.
Kezoki Q as Leaning Scum: I must admit that some of my posts regarding Kezoki early on is bias. First of all, I really wanted to keep playing in this game so I kind panicked that he lynched me. However, it is not totally due to personal feelings as I already said that he may be scum during Day 2 which was not influenced by panicking. His posts early on were scummy to me. He quickly changed his mind when lynching and had a mindset of inactive = scummy. This can be seen as lynch-happy because he was reckless to make decisions, especially when he says things like "i don't care if this is scummy af but I have my reasons". The fact that he responded to my first read list with sarcasm gives of a mafia feel to me. Also when I questioned he lynch, he would say things like "Do you have a better idea?" which to me gives off a feeling that he is lynch-happy. He even admitted that he lynched me early because he thought he wouldn't have enough time to post, which to me, implies that he is afraid of me lynching him first. Kezoki also mentions the inactives often during the end of this day, maybe he is just trying to sway attention?
Mizuho N. as Town: I am always scared to list the most active person as town. First of all, she could easily be mafia however her tones and posts don't scream mafia to me as much as some other town leader did. She also do not have a clear scum motive behind her posts. She has been the glue that kept town together, so I don't see a reason she is scum.
Therefore, the scum would be Kezoki, Agatha and Brendan.
Natchi and Nicolai are also honorable mentions as candidates however they do not stand out to me as much.
Some things to point out for town before I go:
1) I think we should keep united. I think an effective way to bring this game back after mislynching is to discuss, a lot. Rather than lynching early, I believe we should bring up an issue and see how each people react and thinks about it.
2) Find relationships. One thing we have not did much is discuss potential scum team. We mentioned inactives and who maybe scum, but never really talk about how this person has interacted with others.
3) Good luck and never give up! I know town can bring this back. Even if i get lynched, you have information that you verify that it is truly from a town-perspective. Note however, that my read list is my personal opinion and may be totally wrong.
(Also I suggest that if we cannot come up with a solution, we should lynch Brendan)
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:36 pm
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Alright, Let's do this.- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:44 pm
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Be there in 5 mins.- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:35 pm
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Pausing this conservation to day we beat game 11- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:10 pm
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Mizuho N. wrote:Osashi D. wrote:Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?
I'm sorry but I didn't understand what you meant at all despite it being directed to mizuho..
Anyways I'll be back in a bit with my finals post for the day and potentially the game.
Didnt you say you were gonna post an updated readlist? Is that what your final post?
My read list will come soon. Right now i am on phone and looking at isos will be a pain
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:09 pm
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Agatha A. wrote:well duh, of course it's important to decide right now, though out of all active people right now, and this might seem a bit stupid, I am trusting osashi and natchi most. don't ask me why, I don't know, natchi is kinda logical but osashi isn't very logical
So you believe me but i'm not logical.. ?
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:04 pm
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Agatha A. wrote:ah right, very nice of you mizuho, that's like, so nice, I just fell of my chair because of how nice that was -.-' not willing to change your lynch =/= jerk, that's just being decisive. Also very nice of you that you trust me so much even though I think it's pretty clear why I didn't respond at first, wouldn't you like to finish me off yourself maybe?
I'm sorry but I didn't understand what you meant at all despite it being directed to mizuho..
Anyways I'll be back in a bit with my finals post for the day and potentially the game.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:58 pm
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- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:26 am
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Kezoki Q. wrote:Osashi D. wrote:What do you wanna hear?
I just wanna hear your final thoughts about the current game. Responding to what people posted would be nice.
I've already said what I have to say, I'd rather hear someone other than you, me and mizuho talk, especially since we need to decide on a lynch. Me, Osashi, or Agatha? Please give reasons so we can decide on the right thing to do.
That is true. Opinions from other here would be very nice.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:52 am
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Kezoki Q. wrote:Osashi D. wrote:Putting this out here for Kezoki:
If you are up for an Agatha lynch, go ahead. I will also lynch her as she is another mafia target in my eyes. I will even ensure you that this is not a trick by Unlynch Kezoki.
If you think I am the scummiest one here, then it's also up to you.
On one hand this is just another scummy post, you're postponing your own lynch in order to lynch a (possible) townie. And if I do agree to this you'll just have another reason to say hey look Kezoki is lynch-happy.
On the other hand, yes I do feel Agatha is scummy, and would not be against doing this.
I'd like to hear what the rest of the town thinks, someone will be lynched today, would you rather it be Osashi or Agatha (seeing as I'm convinced at least one of them is scum)
Glad to see that you are asking town for opinions when lynching. I don't think if you lynch Agatha I can say that you are lynch happy. Firstly, I am the one influencing you to lynch here, so if anything goes wrong, I am the first to be lynched, not you. Secondly, if I force you to lynch and say it's your fault because you are lynch happy, it is a super invalid reason and is worthy of a lynch. You could say I am postponing a lynch here, but (as bad as this may sound) I am know I am town but I don't know Agatha, so to me, there is no reason to postpone the lynch.
Also, can you name some reasons why I am scummier/worthy of a lynch than Agatha?
So many errors ;_;
"there is no reason to postpone the lynch" should be "it is logical for me to postpone the lynch"
"and is worthy of a lynch" means that if I was to say that Kezoki lynched Agatha because he is lynch-happy then I am worthy of a lynch because the point is invalid.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:50 am
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I'm gonna do an updated read list too, so hang tight!- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:41 am
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And by final, I mean your final points for today.- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:40 am
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What do you wanna hear?I just wanna hear your final thoughts about the current game. Responding to what people posted would be nice.
- on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:35 am
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