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Lacy H. wrote:
Lacy H. wrote:
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Lacy H. wrote:I thought it was btwn me and Yas, with it more than likely being Yas. Good job Yas!

me too except not until after I submitted the MVP form... I totally ignored how much Yas changed the game XD

Then who did you expect to get the MVP? You? Last I checked you led a mislynch on MA instead of Jenaro.

Last time I checked you a) didn't push on the reporter, instead pushing on someone else
b) I did
c) we're the same person
d) it affected the Jenaro lynch for the next day
and MOST IMPORTANTLY e) it doesn't matter. Why do you care so much?

I'm sorry for fighting, but that just really annoyed me. Not not getting MVP, but being told that I was bad even though I played well :/

Lol how do you think I feel? XD I am getting told that I am terrible by someone who made me get suspected everytime he spoke!

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Yas getting da bitches

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Yas W-we w-w-won!!!

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Really? I thought Nico was the only one that could fit with Jenaro as a scumteam xD. But yeah, i am pretty proud of myself for getting both scum first try when i guessed the scumteam to AJ.

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Mirror Ash wrote:You people are trash tbh. I told you it wasn't me.

Stfu dude, the only reason people thought we were scum is when you talked! Stop being so toxic dude

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I would have probably lynched Jenaro day 3 if I wasnt so caught up in the spanish trip and realised that deadline wasnt what I thought it was. Oh well, I guess it made the game more interesting with the suspense.....right?

I dont actually know who would deserve MVP, i dont feel someone was OP, i felt everyone was good.

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You people are trash tbh. I told you it wasn't me.

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Mirror Ash wrote:LMFAO when I forget about DL and my idiot partner gets us lynched. Have fun, noobs.

Wtf ok? I am sorry dude but you are the noob here, everything that people said about how I am scum was because of you and your stupid aggressive actions.

I can still see town winning this one, good luck guys

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Lacy H. wrote:Mirror Ash, can you not? You are just mad that I got the last mafia, you, lynched. I mean its so obvious you are scum you should really stop. Why dont you tell us who the last mafia is? I mean it is gg by black flag rules, considering your death will leave the game with one mafia.

As for my really bad teammate, git gud. Seriously, how do you fail to see that he is scum? Also it's like an hour past the deadline... Your lynch wont work. Mirror Ash is gonna die.

I don't think you're understanding. It's deadline already so.

I
AM
NOT
SCUM.

Can you even read, Lacy? Seriously, I don't understand how you aren't processing this.

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Lacy H. wrote:Sorry Mirror Ash. I tried to keep you alive. But I have multiple personality disorder. And The voices made me lynch you even though i didnt want to have you lynched. Maybe if we are lucky AJ will count the lynch i did rn. The Hippie... tbh i think maf wouldnt go out that hard to protect their partner though, cuz that would give them away. They'd try to do something more low key

Your partner is a fucking dumbass, let's be honest. Get Jenaro or Hippie tomorrow if you know what's good for you.

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LMFAO when I forget about DL and my idiot partner gets us lynched. Have fun, noobs.

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Yas W. wrote:I'm really sorry, I didn't expect my weekend to be this busy. I don't have time to a read-list (again, sorry) but I'll respond to Mirror Ash's questions. I should be online near deadline, though.

1) Lacy: From experience, mafia does not recall past actions (especially actions that are done by the mafia and scummy). They usually want don't want to remind town tactics in the past. I know this is not a strong point, but I believe mafia usually just go with the flow. For example, Lacy could totally ignore Zane and just said "Yas is lurking and blaming it on not being able to post" and achieve the same effect, yet she mentioned Zane, which I think is townie-like. Hopefully you kinda get what I mean. (Again, it's not the main reason why I think Lacy is town, but just to add to my opinion)

2) Nico: Nico isn't necessarily scummy for not using his lynch, but I pointed out that he ended up not lynching anyone Day 1 but lynched quite early Day 2. I find that a bit weird. Also, Nico seems to be actively replying and participating in conversation but he does not really pressure anyone. Again, it's the experience thing, but mafia usually "appears" to be helpful but not being the leader in trying to getting someone lynched. Of course, this is not always the case, which is why I think Nico is neutral/leaning town.

3) VCA is useful because I think patterns in lynching and unlynching could be use to identify scum. I didn't get around to doing it though, and I don't think it would be any help today.

Hopefully Jenaro comes on before deadline.

Yeah sorry, i'll be more active in 2 days coz i'll be back from spain.

1) idk dude, it just makes more sense to say that she was trying to dig up info to try to keep suspicion away from her and onto someone else. But of course it's only an add-on reason so it's not something to go off from

3) but hydra is a thing which kinda screws it over

Yeah i think Jenaro needs to speak in order for the thread to accelerate. I mean i've responded to everything and i dont think i have anything else I need to defend myself from. Currently, Jenaro needs to reply to like everyrhing, Yas needs to post his scum team analysis and everyone else needs to be active

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Mirror Ash wrote:I dont know about you guys but I actually think this is the best readlist so far because of how thorough it is. I mean it's not like I agree with everything but I can actually understand his points of view through his explanations. THe only thing i would critisize is his grammar because there were a few cringe moments but anyway a few questions.

Why does Lacy mentioning Zane's strat make her townie? It can easily be argued the other way.
How come Nico is scummy for not using his lynch? Surely not using his lynch would mean he's not hastily lynching someone until he has good info? And is that the only reason why you suspected Nico?
Why would a vote count analysis be useful?

The thing about Jenaro is his mysterious activity because it just doesnt add up. In pre-game he was posting like mad but now he isn't. I mean you can easily argue that this is harder and requires more thought than shitposting but his capability to produce decent readlists and content proves otherwise. I mean I guess he actually tries to be useful when he posts but eh...i am not really sure on Jenaro tbh.

About The Hippie, you can also say that Yas flipping town and keeping a lynch on me would only mean that he knew by hindsight that Yas is gonna be town. I mean think about it, if he did that to make him seem more town then people can deduce that he would have had to know that Yas is gonna flip town in order for that plan to work. Therefore, to eliminate that option of people suspecting him, he changed his vote. HOWEVER, using my logic, it just means that if he did or did not change his vote, it can be regarded as scummy. So it's a matter of working out which seems more reasonable and I think that The Hippie wouldnt go through all that depth just to not be suspected if we are talking about how keeping his lynch on me is scummy so moving on Yas seems more town. Plus he made it clear that I am scum so he has a solid reason to defend himself if someone brought that up to him.

TLDR for that paragraph coz it's quite long: although I still think The Hippie is kinda scummy for lynching Yas (as explained in my previous posts), it's not as strong as it used to be.

I think scum partners would be a better discussed topic when mafia is down to 2 members because it's much easier to pinpoint scum because they are almost forced to buddy with each other.

Read the bold, again sorry for delay, wifi in spain doesnt even work in hotels xD

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Yas W. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Well I am sorry I havent posted all of yesterday and some of today, I am in Spain for a school trip so for the next 6 days my activity wont be as high so hopefully my partner can cover. Unfortunately everytime I am not posting, my partner gets me in a massive hole that I try to dig myself out of because of how unnecessarily aggressive he is.

Anyway I skimmed over everything and I've noticed that the Jenaro lynch escalated extremely quickly without solid evidence happening. I mean surely if 3 lynches are on him then he must have done something super scummy like what Yas did, but i dont see what he has done that deserves 3 lynches on him right off the bat. Like I still feel The Hippie is much scummier and saying that "you almost lynched me instead of scum" is totally irrelevant because, believe it or not, there are 3 scum in the game. Anyway I am gonna reply to whatever made up reason The Hippie came up with in the next post coz I havent read it yet.

To quote the Hippie here, "It's called pressuring" and "You can never have too much pressure". Although I sorta disagree with the latter statement, I think it is useful in a situation where we only need to lynch one mafia because a) they will either have to defend hard - which their partner might come to help or b) do something to convince us that they are not worthy of the lynch. Both ways give town valuable information, especially if we pressure someone that is scummy to many of the town. Also, I know I was scummy, but I wasn't super scummy, I mean, most of the accusations yesterday was about my activity, which I doubt can make anyone "super scummy".

Mirror Ash wrote:@other mirror ash

I am not gonna quote coz there is a massive quote chain but I take issue with a few things. Firstly what you are describing is that Jenaro was stealthing because he timed his lynch right after deadline (which is also why you are being lynched too). But this doesnt "scream" scum at all because it isnt a solid scumtell. Stealthing imo is just a bad idea anyway because it really doesnt help scum even tho in theory it does. Also it isnt solid coz there is no clear evidence that he was actually stealthing and you have to back it up with other evidence which atm isnt happening.

However there are a few things that I do agree with. Jenaro how come this has happened twice to you now? Once is alright but twice means that something's up and in brings more evidence that you actually have been stealthing. Also it was quite immediate too. So really, if there was more evidence against you, a lynch on you would actually be reasonable.

One more thing, Yas has sorta done nothing after he posted that readlist except lynch Jenaro with minimal reasoning. He didn't even answer the questions i asked him and he didnt do anything of the stuff he said he would do later. This actually looks like he was bluffing just to save himself. Yas, we know you sre capable of being active and it is now the weekend.....absolutely no excuse.

1) Any reasons you specifically mentioned me when activity of many other in the game have been falling too? 2) Where are your questions? I must have missed it or something. 3) I will definitely do a scum team analysis by the end of today. 4) What exactly did I "bluff"? 5) To clarify for anyone, I didn't lynch Jenaro simply because he lynch The Reporter right at deadline. Refer to my read list why I think he is scummy. He has since then explained himself tho, so I might reconsider my lynches after my scum team analysis.

About the pressuring thing, it's currently achieving nothing. I mean just look at his posts, he is basically repeating himself. There is no new info coming out. The main reason he is getting lynched is because of the lynch on deadline and he has explained fully why he has done that. It's not super scummy either. It would only be super scummy if there was other evidence of him being scum as i have said before. If any more pressure is needed then there should be another way.

I guess you are just more into my head since when you are active, you post like a million posts a second. I am not saying that you should keep it at that but to drop it off is a little strange imo especially since you did say you were gonna do other stuff later. But honestly dude, the moment i call you scum, you post xD i should just always call you scum. About the bluff thing, I was saying that you said you were gonna do the scum team analysis yet you havent done it quite a while after you said it. Therefore it looks like you were trying to overwhelm us into thinking that you are committing all your time for town and then try and get away with it. But if you are gonna do it today, then ignore this.

I'll quote the questions next post

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@other mirror ash

I am not gonna quote coz there is a massive quote chain but I take issue with a few things. Firstly what you are describing is that Jenaro was stealthing because he timed his lynch right after deadline (which is also why you are being lynched too). But this doesnt "scream" scum at all because it isnt a solid scumtell. Stealthing imo is just a bad idea anyway because it really doesnt help scum even tho in theory it does. Also it isnt solid coz there is no clear evidence that he was actually stealthing and you have to back it up with other evidence which atm isnt happening.

However there are a few things that I do agree with. Jenaro how come this has happened twice to you now? Once is alright but twice means that something's up and in brings more evidence that you actually have been stealthing. Also it was quite immediate too. So really, if there was more evidence against you, a lynch on you would actually be reasonable.

One more thing, Yas has sorta done nothing after he posted that readlist except lynch Jenaro with minimal reasoning. He didn't even answer the questions i asked him and he didnt do anything of the stuff he said he would do later. This actually looks like he was bluffing just to save himself. Yas, we know you sre capable of being active and it is now the weekend.....absolutely no excuse.

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The Hippie wrote:Stealthing doesn't help scum out exclusively, because you're correct in that stealths can indicate clear scum. But the numbers were pretty conclusive (if I were lynched yesterday, it'd be 5v3 today, right? AKA MYLO) so it was a risk that could have worked out well.

He stealthed badly, but he had the intention of stealthing, and that's what matters. He admitted later on that he was trying to stealth, just phrased in a way that he seemed to not understand the implications of doing so, which is either dumbtelling or just a slip of ignorance allowing us to find mafia.

5v3 is not mylo because mafia cant kill lol, it can still go to 4v3 and town can still win. And in my eyes it wouldnt have made a difference who got lynched coz you are both scum in my opinion. You are sorta making us assume you're town. But either way, it wouldnt have been a very good risk. To allow me to explain this, I would like you to enter a hypothetical situation where you are town and I am scum with TR. If I had succeeded in getting you lynched then I would probably be lynched the next day due to what I did. This means it's 5v2 and town has 2 chances to mislynch. Now as we have demonstrated in reality, we decisively managed to lynch TR with good evidence. So no doubt about it town will win in this situation, or at least make it very unlikely for mafia to win.
So in conclusion mafia, who have a QT and are able to discuss everyrhing (aka have 6 brains), wouldnt ever do something as stupid and careless as that.

Also I dont think he said he did stealth at all, he did say that he was convinced by Nico's post about The Hippie being scummier and decided to switch lynches.

Oh btw, there isnt mylo in this theme coz when it does get 4v3 it is LYLO coz NL results in someone randomly killed. Just for your information.

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Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.

I feel you got this wrong. I tried to lynch TR for being scummy right at deadlineafter she never posted any new information. You're the one who tried to switch right before the time you though DL was going to be.

A full 33 minutes versus, yknow, 13 seconds...yes absolutely.

Not only that but I said EXACTLY WHY I DID IT. Nico made a good point, and i thought it was enough reason to switch my vote. You're the one that just tried to change yknow, the second before deadline.

You do know I didn't change my vote, right? I went from not lynching anyone to lynching TR, who already had plur.

You just lynched him, no reasoning involved, and then said "Yes! Right at deadline! that better count ;;" To me that SCREAMS scum...you're hopping on TR's wagon to try and be like "oh yeah im not mafia i helped you lynch the reporter" etc etc

Did you read the posts I had? I explained in one the TR and Yas were scummy to me, but TR was less so in my reads list. After Yas posted his reads, I made another post explaining why I felt TR was scummy and why she had become less scummy to me. After that, as she randlynched 2 other users, I basically told her I would lynch her and to post any readslists she may have to help town (on the off chance she was town). At deadline (I was a little late) I tried to lynch her. It wasn't as immediate as you try to make it out to be.

Really? Cuz going back to the post, it was at 9:00 exactly. And then you posted right after saying "yes right at deadline"

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Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.

I feel you got this wrong. I tried to lynch TR for being scummy right at deadlineafter she never posted any new information. You're the one who tried to switch right before the time you though DL was going to be.

A full 33 minutes versus, yknow, 13 seconds...yes absolutely.

Not only that but I said EXACTLY WHY I DID IT. Nico made a good point, and i thought it was enough reason to switch my vote. You're the one that just tried to change yknow, the second before deadline.

You do know I didn't change my vote, right? I went from not lynching anyone to lynching TR, who already had plur.

You just lynched him, no reasoning involved, and then said "Yes! Right at deadline! that better count ;;" To me that SCREAMS scum...you're hopping on TR's wagon to try and be like "oh yeah im not mafia i helped you lynch the reporter" etc etc

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Mirror Ash wrote:
Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.

I feel you got this wrong. I tried to lynch TR for being scummy right at deadlineafter she never posted any new information. You're the one who tried to switch right before the time you though DL was going to be.

A full 33 minutes versus, yknow, 13 seconds...yes absolutely.

Not only that but I said EXACTLY WHY I DID IT. Nico made a good point, and i thought it was enough reason to switch my vote. You're the one that just tried to change yknow, the second before deadline.

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Jenaro K. wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.

I feel you got this wrong. I tried to lynch TR for being scummy right at deadlineafter she never posted any new information. You're the one who tried to switch right before the time you though DL was going to be.

A full 33 minutes versus, yknow, 13 seconds...yes absolutely.

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The Hippie wrote:Sorry, I was p inactive yesterday. Life happened, which was super rude, huh?

So please could someone reiterate the case on Jenaro? I've just read through ~6 pages in one go because I fell behind quite significantly and there have been no reasons for his lynch stated on those pages that I have noticed. It's just weird for three of you to drag up a case from (irl) days ago all at the same time. Doesn't help that two scum, that being Ash and maybe Yas, are both on this wagon. So instead of being rude and snarky, Ash, try explaining your case so as to build up momentum if you actually think they're scum, thanks.

Lynch Mirror Ash because he's still scum for all of the reasons I've stated over the rest of the course of this game. Furthermore, his last minute attempt to tie the lynch is incredibly suspicious. Think about it for a bit: for Ash to have got confused, he would have had to have caught up on the thread over half an hour before he actually posted, because he didn't see Jenaro's posts about deadline. This means that he was waiting until closer to deadline before he posted his lynch vote. In other words, he tried to stealth it, and only mafia have any prerogative to stealth vote. Therefore, Ash is mafia.

Before I get into this, lynching Jenaro for trying to switch lynches is a stupid idea. I mean for a start it's a stupid move that mafia wouldnt make. Forum mafia is a game which lasts for many days rather than server mafia which lasts an hour if its a big game. Therefore mafia is forced to think macro and think about how they can sustain themselves in the long run. It would be much more beneficial for mafia to bus in the situation The Reporter was in because of how dire and close to deadline it was. That way they would get the best case scenario of distancing themselves as a scum partner. However if you try and switch the lynch then not only have you put immense suspicion on yourself, you havent let the person you saved off the hook. This is nightless so you cant "buy time" with this theme as mafia.

I dont get how stealth votes help scum out if you are switching away from the mafia partner. If anything, stealth votes should be onto a scum partner to make it look like they are distancing away from him when in actual fact he isnt making it worse for his partner. I think you got the idea of stealthing wrong. Also i dont understand how he stealthed when he posted that lynch a while after the deadline (i think, i'll double check). Anyway, I would like you to tell me what I have done that is scummy because as far as I know, everything is cleared up.

I still think The Hippie is the most scummy from what I have explained day 2 but I know for a fact that I am gonna unlynch jenaro because i simply dont agree with it.

UL Jenaro

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Well I am sorry I havent posted all of yesterday and some of today, I am in Spain for a school trip so for the next 6 days my activity wont be as high so hopefully my partner can cover. Unfortunately everytime I am not posting, my partner gets me in a massive hole that I try to dig myself out of because of how unnecessarily aggressive he is.

Anyway I skimmed over everything and I've noticed that the Jenaro lynch escalated extremely quickly without solid evidence happening. I mean surely if 3 lynches are on him then he must have done something super scummy like what Yas did, but i dont see what he has done that deserves 3 lynches on him right off the bat. Like I still feel The Hippie is much scummier and saying that "you almost lynched me instead of scum" is totally irrelevant because, believe it or not, there are 3 scum in the game. Anyway I am gonna reply to whatever made up reason The Hippie came up with in the next post coz I havent read it yet.

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Or, yknow, I couldn't get online until 8:45EST and spent 45 minutes reading through and figuring out what the fuck to do and how to respond. I love that you're calling me out for missing a lynch so close to deadline, but not Jenaro, who tried to switch RIGHT AT DEADLINE.

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The Hippie wrote:
Mirror Ash wrote:
The Hippie wrote:idk why we are all lynching jenaro, still havent heard why kayleigh didnt lynch the reporter while now she goes full jenaro lynch.

Maybe you should read to see why we're lynching Jenaro K.

considering that you almost lynched me instead of mafia - your words mean nothing to me

Considering I had a perfectly valid reason for it, you should still pay attention to L O G I C.