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well while I did put in dr yung, I know he shouldn't be mvp, though really who had the most impact on the game, literally speaking, is Egan. yeah you read that right, Egan. He killed 2 mafia who were both seen as very towny, if anyone had impact on the game, it was him. He gave the town a chance, one that wasn't taken, but still he had a lot of impact.

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oh I just remembered, how come I never agree with who is named mvp? like, I always get the point but I don't agree with it. No offense katrina.

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well really I had egan figured out before anyone else and I did have some unvoiced suspicions about melanie, so at least I figured out something before I died, it just took a long time for town to realize that maybe I died because of egan not wanting someone after him the whole time.

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I was going to go on this huge rant but... I kind of lost the password so it would be very delayed anyways. Anyways, this game seriously made me laugh so hard, who would have thought things would turn out like this? tbh I actually thought katarina would win when the wrong person got hammered the day after melanie got nightkilled, you know what I expected? I expected mollie to die, katarina to finally go after egan, town to blindly follow katarina... I even expected that katarina had left egan alive on purpose. I wasn't even surprised at who flipped scum and who didn't.

Basically, I saw everything coming and while you could say "advantage of hindsight", I either legit saw everything coming or my brain is playing tricks on me. Simple as that.

Now I could go ranting about egan being obvious, katarina being obvious and all those kinds of things, but really, how can I blame others for losing when all I had to do was lie low so egan would kill katarina rather than me? Then when mollie got a sub the next day egan would have gotten lynched leaving only melanie as scum, and I was already starting to wonder at why we all found her to be so townie when really she was being quite useless. "beating around the bush" as sullivan would say, or like dr yung "even when we're drunk we'd still understand that" (yeah, referring to my own stating the obvious thingies). Perhaps I'd even be able to convince everyone it was Melanie, but at least we'd have a better chance. In the end, it can be traced back to be my fault. So that's why I am not going to blame the town for anything, though I was really hoping to have more than 1 town leader actually being town, with all due respect mollie, you weren't exactly a town leader, you were more of a town tunneler. (people are going to get so pissed at me for calling myself a town leader when they figure out who I am, actually they're just going to get pissed at this post in general. oh well.)

tl;dr: go read it you lazy ass, it's a nice old contradictionary post from the king of obvious

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I got online today and I was ready to find the werewolf and get him/her lynched and then... I died. I truly wish I were still alive, because this conversation is just amazing xD even though I'm dead, I'm still laughing so hard at this game. Good luck.

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I AM GOING TO STATE THE PERSON WHO DID THE READ AND THEN THE READ AFTER THAT, DON'T THINK I AM MAKING A READLIST, THESE ARE ALL READS PEOPLE MADE ON DR YUNG.

Melanie B.: she said she thought dr yung was leaning town, nothing special here.

Ralph I.: never actually made a readlist, in fact so far all he's been doing is talk about who the seer is and argue with us for pointing out that he probably shouldn't be saying that aloud.

Katrina K.: "pretty helpful for the most part. I think he's town." nothing special here, it was the general opinion

Ryou N.: really hasn't done a whole lot other than complaining about how this game is like ps mafia.

Egan G.: "town read. some people may see his aggression as scum but I don't." <--- I didn't check if it's the exact wording but the meaning is the same. This one strikes me as odd, why did he have to say people may see the aggression as scum when nobody even pointed out the aggression before him?

Captain Aiden: 0 opinions on other people. 0. careful scum? confused townie?

Dominick C.: at some point he mentioned he could see Dr yung as being scum, so far this is the only person I've seen saying something like that. I think he's either smarter than I've given him credit for, or he wasn't a team with dr yung. He also doesn't share the same "don't lynch egan" opinion with dr yung.

Ephraim M.: I obviously shouldn't be interpretating my own words, I know what I meant, but in this case I doubt my opinion on the matter is of importance. As I recall I never actually stated a clear opinion on dr yung, though I probably agreed with most people in thinking he wasn't acting particularly scummy, I should have known better, especially since I had an idea of who he might be.

Mollie H: Just as it might "behoove" us to wait until finding the second werewolf before having the seer claim, it "behooves" us for you to start talking, saying things that aren't just repeating what we, or rather dr yung, has already settled. Yes she has made a a whopping 4 posts, 3 fillers and 1 that might as well have been a filler as all she did was repeat what dr yung had already established.

Dr. Akihabara: From the post after dr yung's death it is apparent that akihabara trusted dr yung, though if I am right about who yung is, that is really no surprise. He gets people to trust him like that. On the other hand he did say Egan as a scum lean, it's a small thing, a connections of which we don't know if it's correct or not.

there you go guys, now you can stop being too lazy to type out some text, and play this game for a change, rather than sitting on your lazy asses without thinking. it's better when you're thinking.

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so one of the first things I find that might be a connection is egan townreading dr yung, even though he is a bit aggressive, it's nothing special as a lot of people townread him though.

The next thing of interest that I find is that first he says the thing where I say obvious things a lot is actually fine with how players in this game are according to him, then a few posts later though, he says I say obvious things too much, and that even when people have been drinking too much the points I make are still obvious, what changed his opinion on that? what could this mean? I want everyone to give an opinion on this, if it's a coincidence, if he was trying to get me lynched or maybe if you think we're a scumteam.

He didn't see egan as scummy, he said he thought egan was legit trying to help town.

He mentioned ryou as a possible lynch target, though his main focus was on sullivan.

after this, he got nightkilled.

so basically there isn't a whole lot other than lynch targets in his posts, I will look to the readlists from other people now. I'll have that as my next post, how people read them and if/why I think it's odd.

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good, we don't either anyways we should really start doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING. right now, it seems like everyone is just waiting for someone to take the lead, if everyone waits we won't get anything. I think everyone is waiting for someone to post about what they found out in looking to dr yung's posts, so that's what I'll do.

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I can understand katrina's reason, I do think egan behaves scummier, but if you take a look at katrina's post, dominick makes more sense as a possible werewolf, or as she mentioned too, aiden would be another option.

Now can you explain why you lynched dominick, akihabara? I've asked already but so far you haven't said anything.

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care to explain the reason you think he's scum? it's quite useful to know reasons for a lynch

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Ralph, the relevance of the nightkill for the werewolves was in that you gave them ideas for targets, you were talking about who could possibly be the seer, and that's a bad idea.

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katrina, in response to your thing about nobody getting angry at egan acting creepy, I am actually getting quite pissed off at him for it, I'm just trying so hard not to, that I preferred not to talk about it to try and ignore it, seeing as his posts had nothing useful really it was a bit easier.

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*sigh* here we go again... can everybody just read what I'm saying for once? only what I'm saying. Because people seem to assume I think there are noobs in this game, I never said anything like that. I just said why your reference to novice players is a bad one.

At this point we shouldn't even try to hypo anymore, because to have any sort of useful hypo we'd have to discuss it a lot more and by the time we've done that it's day 3, it's just not worth it, not everybody will do it even if we decide to do it starting day 2 either.

katrina, when I said I had realized those things just whenever it was I said, I meant that I thought of them while making a post, and decided I might as well say it, can't do a whole lot of harm to make sure everyone understands those things now can it? apparently it can because here we are, with everybody seemingly thinking I am either stupid or scum. So much for trying this the way everyone else plays the game.

brad vs lakoko? riiiiiiiight... because one of us is saying the other person is scum, while the other person is regarded as townie by everyone else? in that case I should be regarded as townie by everyone but katrina, as I don't think katrina is scum, she's just awfully annoying, to the point that it's starting to hurt town. Seriously katrina, how hard is it not to add lolicon in every post? because every time you do so half the town gets pissed off, won't think properly and does stupid things as a result.

no the lolicon thing isn't a reason to lynch katrina, but if this goes on and starts hurting town, and katrina realizes it, then it becomes a reason to lynch her. until then, she's just annoying and making nobody take her seriously, even though she does say some good things.

For Egan's readlist, I must agree with katrina, the reads seem a bit off to me too, I don't know what it is, but it just seems a bit fabricated, as if he's following some strict format where he has to have someone as a "for sure town" read and so he decided that would be mel, as if he has to have some null reads even though he could easily decide if he interprets me as town or scum, so he put me as null. And for some things he simply doesn't explain why he has a read on someone.
I can't quite place what I feel is off about Egan's list, so I tried to explain the best I can.

katrina's readlist, I'll just say something first, I am not salty. I am not new to anon games. I am not that obvious if I ever am scum. The reads all have logic as a basis though.

guys, seriously STOP TALKING ABOUT THINKS ONLY WEREWOLVES NEED TO THINK ABOUT. JUST STOP IT. very nice to know you have thoughts about what someone might be planning with their claims, but keep those thoughts to yourself will you? it's only helping the werewolves, and it's completely useless to the town.

Lynch Egan

he's generally not being very helpful and acting odd, his readslist, while it is a list of someone's opinion, still makes him seem scummy to me.

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I would respond to those other things that happened but uhh... those posts would be too long for most people to read anyways, because they're lazy. And this is not something I came up with, go look in katrina's long post, you'll see she says the posts are too long.

I like how you mentioned me seeming like I think I'm on some higher level, I don't have any more information than you probably do, but that doesn't mean I can't be better at the game than someone who doesn't understand hypo now does it? I also love how everyone keeps referring to mafia novices, and keeps saying they have a lot better grasp on the game than they do in reality, let me tell you something, I had a hard time yesterday irl explaining how aitc works to people who had played mafia once or twice, even though I said the assassin could shoot, the first assassin didn't shoot. Got a better idea of the grasp people have on the game at their first few games?

tl;dr: I'm not responding to the rest that happened for now. maybe some other time. Yes I do believe I'm a better player than someone who doesn't understand how hypo works, no I don't have any more information than a town can gather on their own. Players new to mafia don't have as good of a grasp of the game as you guys all assume.

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the thing about people acting stupid, I don't mean a general thing that everyone is acting stupid, I mean things like saying you agree hypo is bad and then doing hypo, I mean dominick assuming the werewolves would kill off the people claiming seer first if only half of the town were doing hypo, it's things like that, which make me state things that are apparently so obvious to you guys, well guess what? I didn't realize most of those points at first, so I was just trying to make sure everybody realized those things.

for the sake of all you lazy people tl;dr: a few people have done some stupid things and those obvious things aren't that obvious at first, I'm just making sure everyone understands.

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I am done. I am so done. I am not stating the obvious, and I'm doing it in such long posts so even those who are very slow can understand what I'm trying to tell them, if you've got a problem with that I'll do it simpler, though I doubt it will have any effects, tell me, how would you have responded if I'd simply said "hey mafia go help the town, you're a part of the town in many ways anyways", you guys would have asked an explanation, so I have to go out of my way to do the roundabout thing, so I skipped a few steps and what do I get for putting in more effort? you guys think it's fishy how I try to make these things simple and understandable for everybody. so I am going to listen to your advice, and not give any explanations anymore. unless of course that's not what you guys mean? I have several ways of playing this game, if this way where I try to help town with logic others understand doesn't work, I'll go back to my own logic, where I will be right about everything but nobody will understand why, meaning it's pretty pointless to town. make your choice. yes you could see this as another roundabout way to go about things, but I haven't had any response as I am making this post, so for now this is still how I'm doing things.

good job on giving the werewolves a target, you really are a pro at this game aren't you? I tell you all to not give away things that only the werewolves should be thinking about, and what do you do? you give them an argument why they should kill someone! really, do NOT mention who would be a good target for the night, let the werewolves figure that out for themselves will you? it means we've got a better chance at keeping the good people with us.

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as I said before, but apparently got lost in the rest of what I said, hypo can only give us good things IF we are sure the seer could convince us he's not just doing a hypo when he finds a werewolf. If we don't hypo though, the seer could still try to hint at his inspects through reads, so we get some semi-confirmations. Of course the seer can only see who the werewolves are so town in that case would be not werewolf.


I also think that in the case there's more mafia than town and not enough werewolves left to make us lose in the case of a misslynch, the focus should shift to the mafia. only in that case though, if there's equal mafia and town, say 2 mafia 2 town and there's 2 werewolves, lynching mafia or town would be horrible, and make it a guaranteed victory for werewolves, in that case we just have to hope for the best with the nightkill, and lynch a werewolf the next day, as the werewolves decide who to kill, and only if a mafia dies we would have a chance in that case. An example of how complicated things can get.

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Dr. Akihabara wrote:I think anyone saying 4-5 people claim while others sit back is because not everyone does hypo. People fuck up, they're too lazy, they don't care enough, they forget, etc.

Also all these things we're saying, they can and probably will, be used against us. All these ideas, the WWs might be able to find out our wifom.

Whoever made that large wall post, you've got some great ideas. Dominick I think?

Also if we hypo, we get everyone to do it, and we don't half ass it. We make sure that it's 100%.

riiiiiiiiight... dominick and great ideas, you mean like everybody doing the hypo except the smart seer? seems legit. I made a huge wall of text, because I'm getting pissed off at how stupid people are acting.

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it's quite simple really, werewolf kills someone at night, we hope it's a mafia, we lynch, hope it's a werewolf, though if we lynch a mafia, and then the next night a town dies, and it goes on like that, we won't have majority over werewolves, and we'll lose, simple. of course lynching a mafia is still better than lynching a town, but it's still bad. it has the effects of a misslynch in a normal game, no positive kill in the day and at night another member of the people voting against the nightkillers will die, it's better to lynch a mafia than lynching a town, but if we're certain someone is mafia rather than werewolf, we've got to ignore it and go for the werewolves instead. Of course this is all situational, I'll work this out a little better later.

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let's not suggest what the seer might be doing to the werewolves okay? it's kind of a problem if they figure out what kind of wifom he might be doing and then kill him because we were stupid enough to think it would be a good idea to discuss it.

for hypo, it seems like you don't really understand what hypo IS. it is a thing where EVERYONE claims the investigative role, EVERYONE. so not 3 or 4 people like you seem to think and then the rest just chill as the werewolves kill those 4 off. that would be pretty stupid, and it wouldn't follow the point of using hypo.

if we use it or not depends on a small thing, do we think the real seer could convince us if he does happen to find a werewolf? because if that is possible, hypo can only give us good things, we just have to think about the risk of a werewolf possibly trading his life for the seer's. MAFIA DO NOT EVER CC THE SEER EXCEPT FOR HYPO, IF YOU DO YOU ARE BEING STUPID, THE SEER CAN'T FIND YOU ANYWAYS, YOU WOULD JUST BE DECREASING YOUR OWN CHANCES OF WINNING. now that I've said that, I think the seer could certainly convince me if he would say he ACTUALLY is the seer when he finds a werewolf. THE SEER GETS WEREWOLF/NOT WEREWOLF AS INSPECT, DON'T SCREW IT UP BY SAYING SOMEONE IS MAFIA

hypo can only gain us something in this situation, I believe.

dominick, can you PLEASE explain what your idea of hypo is. you are REALLY confusing.

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akihabara, I care because I'm bad at ignoring it when she says "-bluches- lolicon" at every single post, so far 2 or 3 posts haven't included that message at the end.

I didn't say you're scum because you're being an annoying shitposter, and seeing as only part of your posts is shitposting I can't exactly lynch you for it, though it's tempting.

now for other matters, only werewolves have a nightkill, the mafia don't. did any of you guys even read the theme or did you just assume the mafia would be normal?

hypo, is a bad idea. as yung has explained. so don't go saying you agree with him that it's a good idea and do it, he said it's bad. it's not worth it, so don't do it.

strategies for finding werewolves and mafia, well obviously it's just whoever is acting as if they're scum, and as for werewolves the usual nightkill frames/protections are sometimes useful, who got killed and who were they trying to get lynched? once the werewolves or the mafia die, we'll lose about half of the good advice, seeing as mafia wants to find werewolves, werewolves want to find mafia. if there is nothing for werewolves and mafia to find they'll be less helpful, if people suddenly act different once one party is eliminated, that's a scummy thing. Werewolves have mafia as their priority though they won't mind killing villagers, the mafia however need us to make sure the werewolves die, as they don't have a nightkill, if all villagers die, the mafia practically lose. So it's sort of a truce between mafia and villagers, at least I hope the mafia are smart enough to understand that too. Main priority is werewolves. If the mafia are smart, they will basically be town until werewolves are eliminated.

A call out to the mafia and town, together we are the town until the werewolves are eliminated, yes it is a BAD thing for town if mafia is killed before the werewolves are eliminated, it's a misslynch, it means we lose 1 vote, and seeing as the mafia and town both have nothing but their votes to use against werewolves, that is a big problem. To the mafia, try not to lynch villagers, to the villagers, try not to lynch mafia. If the mafia and town are any good, they won't be scummy anyways, but it's still something to remember.

unlynch dr yung I've got no reason to want him dead.

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dammit katrina I thought we'd stopped the shitposting and roleplaying >.> seriously, it's getting annoying

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you know what? let's just get this started. lynch Dr Yung

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I have also done a research, I have done one on this game's confirmation posts, I have concluded they're needlessly creepy and have managed to go on for 4 pages, it's filled with people joking about weird subjects + arrogant game 17 guy, ah well that's what happens when being stuck in the worse game of the 2.

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so you decided this would be the way much scum and way too complicated names game? confirmed.