Game 26: F11

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Lynching implies a scum-read, which I don't have any. As I checked you also didn't lynch anyone right? It's probably a similar reason. Also, what other accusations? Thought I covered it all.

I thought you scumread Morrison?

Not on Day 1, no. Firstly, I totally ignored that line Day 1. Secondly, the argument depends on Keanu flipping scum, which I could not have predicted.

Wilbur R. wrote:wait no leona i think you just quoted the wrong post, i don't see how rita's post has anything to do with day 1

Leona L. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:I have already stated why I don't think Morrison nor Tierra are the mafia so I am just gonna talk about Wilbur and Leona.

So what I like about Leona during this game is how most of her reasoning is solid and true, for instance the big post that she dedicated for the nightkill analysis and also the readlist she did, all the reasoning she gave I couldn't really find any flaws with it. (Although I still think the guy who killed OMS didnt notice that tierra's UL shifted plurality onto keanu which made her a fairly solid townread lol). Even though she hasn't been scumhunting as much as i wanted her to, in terms of the content in her posts it's been pretty good.

However there are a few reasons why I believe she might be mafia. First of all idk if she's stalling or not but I don't think it's fair to say that she is stalling in case she actually has a busy schedule. However what I dont like is why she made a whole post dedicated to the nightkill on day 3 when it wasnt the most important topic of discussion when she could have perhaps combined it with replying to the post where i talked about why Leona could be mafia or any other post that was useful in terms of finding who the scum is. I guess thats what you would call stalling coz it meant that we had to wait 2 more days for you to have started scumhunting on day 3 and also 3 more days until i got the reply i wanted.

Also here's something i noticed from day 1:

Leona L. wrote:

McGinty P. wrote:24 hours later, one person speaks. aj, get your subs ready... or just remind everyone. Please, we need some activity to scumhunt.

I appreciate your efforts to encourage discussion, but all your posts have been this without actually contributing to the actual scum hunting. If you want to scum hunt, then you should lead it. Also I'm not sure how much information we can gain from day 1 since we are still in RVS stage.

I do agree with the Hypo strategy since there is a possibility of a Mafia Roleblocker.

This seems like a pretty good quality post...until you put it into perspective with when it was posted. McGinty was trying to spur activity that wasnt shitpost and only ellen actually posted something useful at the time, however Leona here is telling McGinty that he should be scumhunting instead of urging people to post. But at the time there wasnt anything that he could have analysed which makes this post feel like an unnecessary aggressive attempt to seem townie. What confuses me tho is how she then added that on RVS stage you cant actually get decent information, so then why did she criticise the fact that McGinty wasnt scumhunting? It makes the first part of the post even more of a shoehorned attempt of seeming townie.

btw you havent really said any thoughts about morrison yet, but i am guessing that will be coming in your post.

Having some experience with PSANON, activity is a huge issue (with forum mafia in general). Asking for more activity honestly doesn't do anything, unless you pressure by lynching. At that moment, it seems to me that McGinty acted like a "White Knight". Also, personally, I don't think any effective scum-hunting begins on Day 1. Sure, we got mafia out, but Day 2 provided much more detailed scum-hunting. This is why I said this.

So then if you believe activity would rise if we pressure lynched then why didnt you do so? (As far as i can remember i dont think you lynched at all day 1). Also pls reply to other accusation too.

Leona L. wrote:

Rita O. wrote:Also our conversation gradually got more casual lol. But in the end when I think about the circumstances in terms of times and stuff, it makes the most sense to suggest that it was a self-conscious act. Like even tho I am trying to take into account everything you said, reading after your most recent post without even noticing the tomorrow bit at the end AND somehow reading the posts but not making the connection. And it seems you would have most likely checked it afternoon so you wouldnt have been very tired. So idk but all this circumstantial things piling up makes it more far-fetched

If this was directed to me, I can guarantee that I did not make up I was busy. Winter Holiday is very busy for me, especially considering I sleep very late which makes me very tired throughout the day. I said I would post by Morning EST because that would be around the time I would have arrived after travelling and can sit down with a computer. However, I had to go to a surprise party which meant I couldn't type and when I came back I just fell asleep. Think of it as what you will, but I did not lie about my activity. As I said, I want to be very detailed about my post, which means probably at least 2-3 hours of just typing straight up. It's hard to find that time.

Nah it wasnt directed at you dw. I understand that you had a busy schedule, it was just frustrating.

Tbf Leona brought to light stuff that I didnt notice before about Morrison which is interesting (well only the first point really struck me as "dayum true") but I dont feel like its fair of we lynch him without allowing him to defend himself coz then a repeat of day 2 might happen. Also as time passed i always felt that morrison's intentions were genuine even tho it may feel odd. Perhaps my instinct is wrong tho.

Lynching implies a scum-read, which I don't have any. As I checked you also didn't lynch anyone right? It's probably a similar reason. Also, what other accusations? Thought I covered it all.

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Assuming Tierra dies, I say Morrison or you. More likely Morrison though if he keeps his activity.

Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Assuming Tierra dies, I say Morrison or you. More likely Morrison though if he keeps his activity.

what if Tierra does not die?
How would you rank people from towniest to scummiest right now?

Wilbur R. wrote:

Leona L. wrote:

Wilbur R. wrote:Leona quick question
If you are lynched and you flip town, who do you think should be lynched on the next day?

Assuming Tierra dies, I say Morrison or you. More likely Morrison though if he keeps his activity.

what if Tierra does not die?
How would you rank people from towniest to scummiest right now?

she was the...:

which means...:

Keanu R. wrote:Confirming

ajhockeystar wrote:Scum QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/XmvkZe62icY9

Rita O. wrote:Yay we won, nice to know that my instincts are still on point xD. I had a gut feeling it was leona from start of d2 (i think i already mentioned this but wanna mention again lol) and tbh when i wanted to save wilbur at the end of day 2 i kinda wanted to lynch leona instead of ellen but i knew wilbur wouldnt agree at the time but oh well, i guess ellen wont be angry at us xD.

About the statistical analysis of post times I just used a stem and leaf graph to put down the times where wilbur came online to post "usually being the first post of a particular time frame" and then i calculated the mean and standard deviation which led me to whatever conclusion i got lol. Although its weird to say that you lied about the holiday thing because the data showed that you started going on the thread more in the mid-afternoon than evening but oh well. I am guessing you're timezone is EST tho, makes the most sense.

Rita O. wrote:Also leona can you tell us your reason for killing OMS? lmao