Game 2: 8Matrix

Mitchell W. wrote:I'm not affiliated with many mafia strategies, but I think that the players who try to figure out who is who most vehemently arn't villagers, but instead looking for power roles to target. Sorry about the scum level; I really want to find the maf out, and know that azuma/shiro/salesman are the only driving players, so at least one is mafia

Mitchell... keep up. Myself and Azuma are both claiming tracker so yeah, at least one of us are mafia (Azuma).

Although Azuma isn't talking any more....

Sorry, been extremely busy lately, will get to this later

Votecount 3.1
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Azuma Z.(2)- Shiro Z., Mitchell W.
Shiro Z.(1)- Azuma Z.
Magikarp Salesman(0)-
Christopher W.(0)-
Mitchell W.(0)-
Not Voting(2)- Magikarp Salesman, Christopher W.
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There are 5 people alive so it takes 3 votes to hammer. Deadline is Wednesday the 5th at 9pm EST.

The village is in lylo.

Plurality applies. If the day ended at this time, Azuma Z. would be lynched.

Azuma I believe you are about to get lynched so you might want to try to say something

Oh damn I just realized it was deadline.

My mafia buddy could certainly have stalled until I joined the game, the is also true, but I presume that he would want to play this game as well I don't see why he would bother waiting

No, you're just speculating a whole lot. My theory is, your buddy waited for a response from you, but eventually after a while mod asked him to submit the kill/bored of waiting.

Read: "I thought he might be a power role" or something similar. I wanted to get a confo villager in the open because then I would claim, have a "confo villager" you would probably counterclaim that and we would have another 50/50, but it was how the game should've panned out in my opinion. But then he died, and it was really awkward

This is wrong for 2 reasons.
a) Mafia have a tendency to kill the most towniest players.
b)How town a player is does not increase the odds of being a pr.

Dude... if I let the 50/50 go ahead and I didn't claim I would have the swing vote. Do you not think I would love that? But to be quite honest I didn't think it through properly - I could've lynched you with said swing vote easily in the 50/50, however I would then be night killed and not be able to reveal whatever results I had. Plus, I guess it is more fun taking you down this way. Even so, as the uncc'd Tracker you could have done whatever you pleased and shifted your blame onto me, so I think that this was the safer choice to claim early in the long run. Whatever happens, though, you are mafia and I hope people will believe it...

You aren't addressing my point. You're mafia, and ccing my claim>not ccing my claim.

At this point I think I'm probably getting lynched. Gg shiro, you outplayed me (I'm tracker btw)

Votecount 3.3
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Azuma Z.(2)- Shiro Z., Mitchell W.
Shiro Z.(1)- Azuma Z.
Magikarp Salesman(0)-
Christopher W.(0)-
Mitchell W.(0)-
Not Voting(2)- Magikarp Salesman, Christopher W.
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There are 5 people alive so it takes 3 votes to hammer.

Azuma Z. was lynched. They flip Mafia Rolecop.

Night 3 Commence!

Send in night actions!

Shiro Z., the Town Tracker, was killed.

Votecount 4.0
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Magikarp Salesman(0)-
Christopher W.(0)-
Mitchell W.(0)-
Not Voting(3)- Magikarp Salesman, Christopher W., Mitchell W.
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There are 3 people alive so it takes 2 votes to hammer. Deadline is Thursday the 13th at 9pm EST.

The village is in lylo.

Day 4 Commence!

vote Magikarp Salesman
Should i vote Christopher instead, what are you Salesman?

Am I right, Christopher?

Mitchell this is a critical point in the game so I suggest u do not jump into conclusions. Also my analysis is coming up soon. U asked what am I... this is not necessary as anyone will claim as a villager but I will say it after the many times I said it before...I am a villager

Taking a look back at everything that has happened before I am getting more and more convinced that Mitchell W is a villager meaning Christopher is mafia.

Vote Christopher W. (I cannot bold on my phone)

Here is one example about why i think Mitchell is a villy.

Mitchell W. wrote:vote Magikarp Salesman
Should i vote Christopher instead, what are you Salesman?

Am I right, Christopher?

Any mafia will never lynch first at this point in time in any mafia game but will wait until one person has lynched the other and then bandwagon for the win. Instead Mitchell here has voted first which is what a pretty silly villy would do (no offence). Like i said this is only ONE example but i only did one because i dont know how to quote more than once.

ok i did take a better look but there is a few things i am confused about.

1.) Azuma Z. who has been flipped as a mafia did accuse Christopher of OMGUS and lynched him as a result. Surely one mafia cannot try to point out mistakes that their partner has made out in public. What supports this even further is that no one else really accused him for that but waited for him to say something.

2.) In 1.) Mitchell W. is kind of being accused as mafia but Mitchell did spot the fact Azuma wasnt town orientated. What almost convinced me that Mitchell was a villy is that it was not a bandwagon because he was found out but it was actually a guilty accusation.

however Christopher did say that mafia can lynch each other so that people will think that they r villys that are scumhunting. Also Azuma could have told Mitchell to do this after he died so that no one will suspect mitchell as mafia in the next day.

So any thoughts? also i recommend not to lynch and just discuss until we come up with a thought-out lynch instead of lynching without deeply thinking.

oh and i forgot Unvote Christpoher W.

Votecount 4.1
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Magikarp Salesman(1)- Mitchell W.
Christopher W.(0)-
Mitchell W.(0)-
Not Voting(2)- Christopher W., Magikarp Salesman
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There are 3 people alive so it takes 2 votes to hammer. Deadline is Thursday the 13th at 9pm EST.

The village is in lylo.

Plurality applies. If the day ended at this time, Magikarp Salesman would be lynched.

Lynch Magikarp Salesman

"Oh please, let's talk this out!"

Nope. No talk. Just pain.

Votecount 4.2
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Magikarp Salesman(2)- Mitchell W., Christopher W. HAMMER
Christopher W.(0)-
Mitchell W.(0)-
Not Voting(1)- Magikarp Salesman
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There are 3 people alive so it takes 2 votes to hammer. Deadline is Thursday the 13th at 9pm EST.

The village is in lylo.

Magikarp Salesman, the Vanilla Townie, was lynched.
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Mitchells W., the Vanilla Townies, was endgamed.

Christopher W., the Mafia Goon, and Azuma Z., the Mafia Rolecop, win!

Will post the points distribution soon, feel free to post!

Also, unless there is anyone against it, I'll just post the player reveals, as I don't think anyone is really interested in the player guessing. Speak up if you're against this!

Janet K.- Vanilla Townie- 0 points
Getting lynched: -3

Gai G.- Vanilla Townie- 2 points
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1
Getting nightkilled: +1
Being the first nightkill of the game: +1
Being nightkilled as a Vanilla Townie: +1

Kinya R.- Vanilla Townie- 0 points
Getting lynched: -3
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1

Corey T.- Town Doctor- 0 points
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1x2
Getting nightkilled: +1

Azuma Z.- Mafia Rolecop- 7 points
Getting lynched: -2
Each night period you live to see: +1x2
Each lynch you participate in that is not a player of your own faction: +1x2
Win Bonus: Mafia: +3 per surviving team member

Shiro Z.- Town Tracker- 0 points (the first)
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1

Shiro Z.- Town Tracker- 5 points (the second)
Being a cause of a town death (voting for a mislynch or incorrect vigilante shot): -2
Getting nightkilled: +1
Being chosen as MVP by the mod: +2
Each scum death you participated in: +4

Magikarp Salesman- Vanilla Townie- 0 points (the first)

Magikarp Salesman- Vanilla Townie- 0 points (the second)
Getting lynched: -3
Being a cause of a town death (voting for a mislynch or incorrect vigilante shot): -2
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1
Each scum death you participated in: +4

Christopher W.- Mafia Goon- 9 points
Each night period you live to see: +1x3
Each lynch you participate in that is not a player of your own faction: +1x3
Win Bonus: Mafia: +3 per surviving team member

Mitchell W.- Vanilla Townie- 0 points (the first)
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1

Mitchell W.- Vanilla Townie- 1 point (the second)
Being a cause of a town death (voting for a mislynch or incorrect vigilante shot): -2
Being alive for a town mislynch, but not being part of it: -1
Each scum death you participated in: +4

I chose Shiro Z. as the MVP because they made a lot of convincing and long posts against Azuma Z., they were well thought-out and executed. I kinda wanted to give it to you Azuma because of you wanting to get bussed by Christopher(even though it lost you points), but ultimately he was inactive and didn't follow the plan. Sorry man :/

I'll post the player reveals later tonight!

Take on the game:
My plan at n3 was to hopefully hit the tracker, then claim with a guilty on him, making my claim look very genuine when ccd.

Obvs I didn't get the results I wanted, Mitchell w was a vt.

Then I made my mistake: I claimed tracker nevertheless. Tracker didn't want to claim, so town had a 40% chance of hitting scum without the claim.

Then I was lazy to 1 v 1 shiro z , etc. then I lost.

That was when I told Chris to bus me. Reasoning was:

Mitchell w. was almost sure magikarp was scum, and him not taking part in my lynch would only make him scummier. Chris could quickhammer for scum win
Chris was inactive, so didn't work

However, Mitchell still jumped the gun on magikarp salesman, for Chris to conveniently hammer.

good game guys

Dang I forgot that someone could hammer.

Janet K.- Vanilla Townie
Two scum votes got you lynched. Not your fault really! Nothing else to say really...

Janet K. was...
M@levolent

Gai G.- Vanilla Townie
Killed because you seemed like a Tracker to the scum. Hey, at least you got extra points for that!

Gai G. was...
Hero of Ruin

Kinya R.- Vanilla Townie
Pretty scum motivated bandwagon against you... Not too much your fault either, maybe could have prevented it with some reasoning behind your vote? Who knows.

Kinya R. was...
Wolv&Bats

Corey T.- Town Doctor
Killed because you were inspected. Not much else to say really...

Corey T. was...
KrageT

Azuma Z.- Mafia Rolecop
Had a good plan, wasn't executed very well due to your partner's activity. Could have defended better on Day 3, but it worked out for you guys!

Azuma Z. was...
cxinlee

Shiro Z.- Town Tracker (the first)
I felt bad after subbing you out because I saw you online soon after :(Hope you play next time though!

Shiro Z. #1 was...
crh

Shiro Z.- Town Tracker (the second)
The MVP of this game. Strong points brought up against Azuma, you were a driving force to his lynch. Great job!

Shiro Z. #2 was...
Celly Berry

Magikarp Salesman- Vanilla Townie (the first)
You lost an opportunity at the best alias in the game?!?!? I haven't seen you online in a while through

Magikarp Salesman #1 was...
Macto

Magikarp Salesman- Vanilla Townie (the second)
A good portion of your scuminess came from your reaction to the bandwagon on you on Day 1, but otherwise you made some good points. Too bad Mitchell thought you were scum!

Magikarp Salesman #2 was...
FrontieReddo161

Christopher W.- Mafia Goon
Coasted through the game a fair bit, I guess lurking helped you. There was a good portion of time you could have hammered on Day 4, you're lucky Mitchell didn't change his mind!

Christopher W. was...
000xxx

Mitchell W.- Vanilla Townie
Good play throughout the game, just at the end you were convinced Magikarp Salesman was scum. Great job otherwise!

Mitchell W. was...
MINECRAFTIA1

The scum quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/nnr99nTgPDh

And that's all folks! Next time I'll probably host a non-ranked non-anonymous OC game (outside chat allowed) and 1-2 ranked anonymous NOC games (no outside contact, like the ones we just did). Feel free to comment!

Gg...

Yeah anyway who wants some Magikarps?