Game 24: Near-Vanilla

natasha wrote:However, now her inactive sub hasn't really said anything, so I'm not sure what to say about her.

what? the game went on for like half a real day before night. And Ive had one person respond to me. I dont know what you want from me. I have nothing to provide, seeing as Im subbing in for someone inactive. If you want info, ask JK/doc who theyve used their actions on. that may give us some insight.

Nanette B. wrote:

natasha wrote:However, now her inactive sub hasn't really said anything, so I'm not sure what to say about her.

what? the game went on for like half a real day before night. And Ive had one person respond to me. I dont know what you want from me. I have nothing to provide, seeing as Im subbing in for someone inactive. If you want info, ask JK/doc who theyve used their actions on. that may give us some insight.

I'm sorry, I thought you subbed in earlier for some reason. At least give some reads, please.


I'm having horrible trouble with pop-up ads on the forum site. They are terrible, won't go away, and force me to restart my computer almost every time they happen ;; I may not be on as much as a result, but I'll try to post as much as I can.

I would love to if anyone else talked more.

same

Annie and Ramona I need your opinions on whether or not to NL Now. Like, literally now.

And Charmaine, defend yourself.

Okay.

I am making two assumptions here: (the most logical)

1) Annie (the doc) protected me.
2) Mafia, if they made a kill, will aim to kill the doc.

I highly doubt they have been idling for 2 days straight. This means, that I am quite positive that my protects/blocks are working. Thus, unless they idle (which is the big question for today), I have a confirmed scum. I will reveal my targets when Annie confirms her protects and everyone have spoken. Do not hastily lynch.

Whether or not to NL, it is pmylo. However, if a kills goes through, no doubt Annie will die, since she is clear. Thus, I think it is better to lynch today. I do not see why it would make sense to NL.

Another point is that just because I block someone and a kill goes through doesn't mean they are not scum. It just means they didn't send the kill. This is why I would rather lynch, since we have evidence from Day 2 and the past few days.

Also, please do not make game 13's mistake by assuming INACTIVITY = SCUM. When considering who you think should be lynched, DO NOT BASE IT ON ACTIVITY PURELY.

yeah I did protect you, but it's not guaranteed they'd try and attack me because of the WIFOM involved. Because there's not really any solid info we can get I don't think it's a good idea to nl.

As for Nanette and Natasha, you can still make reads without people being very active, especially for the one who just subbed because you can read through what happened, at the very least some of it.

i just really wanna know why you guys feel im more scummy than nat, mini, or nan.

you guys are just saying im scummy when providing 0 real evidence behind it besides the fact that you guys have screwed up like 3 lynches in a row instead of listening to me.

[quote=Natasha L.]Charmaine looks like scum to me, however. She did not even talk about how her huge scum read, whom she'd been turboing the entire game, flipped town. Ever since, she's posted random scum teams and not really contributed throughout the entire game. That lynch was idiotic.

Lynch Charmaine[/quote]

Oh, it wasn't clear enough? I'm sorry, my justified lynch on you was explained in this post and the post before that.

Lynch Charmaine I trust you Ramona... I guess lynching might be better.

Theres basically 0 reason not to attempt to kill the doc. The only way that wouldn't be a good target is if JK tried to block the doc, and thats a risky play on all parts. So whatever blocks youve made are going to be reasonable assumptions for lynches. And most of the reads people make are null imo, and Ill rely on those after we lose peope who generate real data.

Votecount 6.1
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Charmaine U.(1)- Natasha L.
Nanette B.(0)-
Mimi F.(0)-
Annie F.(0)-
Natasha L.(0)-
Ramona G.(0)-
Not Voting(5)- Nanette B., Annie F., Mimi F., Charmaine U., Ramona G.
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There are 6 alive so it takes 4 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Friday the 22nd at 9pm EST.

If the deadline was now, Charmaine U. would be lynched.

Natasha L. wrote:

Natasha L. wrote:Charmaine looks like scum to me, however. She did not even talk about how her huge scum read, whom she'd been turboing the entire game, flipped town. Ever since, she's posted random scum teams and not really contributed throughout the entire game. That lynch was idiotic.

Lynch Charmaine

Oh, it wasn't clear enough? I'm sorry, my justified lynch on you was explained in this post and the post before that.

Lynch Charmaine I trust you Ramona... I guess lynching might be better.

so basically you have been tunnelling me for 1 mislynch when others have mislynched like 10 people and you havent even said anything about the other 2 people in the game. seems like you just wanna lynch me

Sorry I haven't posted too often recently, been in a funk irl and it has been affecting my motivation. Don't have a strong opinion on today's lynch right now, can't think of any good scumteams that make much sense. Hopefully things are clearer by the end of the day. It seems like Ramona has the mafia read like a book right now, so they might not even get another kill off, which means once we lynch one mafia we're pretty much guaranteed a win.

I highly doubt the mafia would kill someone apart from the doctor.

Anyways, I believe it is time to announce my actions:

N1 - Gurkinn
N2 - Mimi (NO DEATHS)
N3 - Mimi (Not sure have to confirm)
N4 - Annie (Risky, but I would rather have everyone alive, NO DEATHS)
N5 - Mimi (NO DEATHS)

Well, Mimi is obviously quite scummy from this. My rationale for going on Mimi was

1) If she was active, she probably would have been targeted over targets like Haruno.

2) If scum sends a kill, the "townier" one probably sent a kill.

3) Mimi had been on almost everyone lynched in the game.

There's that. Honestly, I don't know if the mafia idled.

Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

I mean, I've townread Mimi ever since my first read post on day 2(?) so I'm kind of surprised by this...

Mimi, please post your thoughts. Unlynch Charmaine for now, I'd like to here Mimi post more thoughts on the jailkeeper targets

Votecount 6.2
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Charmaine U.(0)-
Nanette B.(0)-
Mimi F.(0)-
Annie F.(0)-
Natasha L.(0)-
Ramona G.(0)-
Not Voting(6)- Nanette B., Annie F., Mimi F., Charmaine U., Ramona G., Natasha L.
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There are 6 alive so it takes 4 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Friday the 22nd at 9pm EST.

If the deadline was now, Charmaine U. would be lynched.

Natasha L. wrote:Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

idled? thats the least likely thing, here are more likely options

1) mimi is mafia and sent the kill
2) mafia tried to kill mimi but jailkeeper saved her
3) mafia tried to kill mimi but doc saved her

annie can help us out with 3 but im just saying theres 1% chance that mafia idled

Charmaine U. wrote:

Natasha L. wrote:Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

idled? thats the least likely thing, here are more likely options

1) mimi is mafia and sent the kill
2) mafia tried to kill mimi but jailkeeper saved her
3) mafia tried to kill mimi but doc saved her

annie can help us out with 3 but im just saying theres 1% chance that mafia idled

1) That is arguably the most likely option since...

2) I just cannot see why mafia would choose to kill Mimi over Annie. If they killed Mimi, not only they confirm a ton of useful information that Mimi posted as legitimate but also they eased the scumhunting on lylo.

3) Annie the doc already said that she protected me.

Ramona G. wrote:

Charmaine U. wrote:

Natasha L. wrote:Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

idled? thats the least likely thing, here are more likely options

1) mimi is mafia and sent the kill
2) mafia tried to kill mimi but jailkeeper saved her
3) mafia tried to kill mimi but doc saved her

annie can help us out with 3 but im just saying theres 1% chance that mafia idled

1) That is arguably the most likely option since...

2) I just cannot see why mafia would choose to kill Mimi over Annie. If they killed Mimi, not only they confirm a ton of useful information that Mimi posted as legitimate but also they eased the scumhunting on lylo.

3) Annie the doc already said that she protected me.

mafia could try to kill the most town player out of the villies since killing you or annie is a 50/50 though idk

waiting for nan or mimi to post something

well it does sort of make sense if it's mimi, as she lynched towa, which then made her and icarus look scummy. but seeing as icarus was scummier than her and was town, she'd be safe. At this point my protects don't change anything whatsoever, and I checked.

It's possible they didn't think you'd protect mimi multiple times but it's also possible that she's actually the mafia. At this point I wouldn't be surprised, and it would be kind of ironic because Towa said that me and mimi couldn't be on the same side, of course then she thought I was the mafia, not mimi. I do wanna know what mimi has to say about this though.

Charmaine U. wrote:

Natasha L. wrote:Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

idled? thats the least likely thing, here are more likely options

1) mimi is mafia and sent the kill
2) mafia tried to kill mimi but jailkeeper saved her
3) mafia tried to kill mimi but doc saved her

annie can help us out with 3 but im just saying theres 1% chance that mafia idled

yes, it's the least likely thing, which is why I doubted it.

Ramona was suggesting it. Talk to her.

Can you like make sense lol ?_?

Charmaine U. wrote:

Ramona G. wrote:

Charmaine U. wrote:

Natasha L. wrote:Ramona, I seriously doubt that mafia idled every night you targetted Mimi, Ramona.

idled? thats the least likely thing, here are more likely options

1) mimi is mafia and sent the kill
2) mafia tried to kill mimi but jailkeeper saved her
3) mafia tried to kill mimi but doc saved her

annie can help us out with 3 but im just saying theres 1% chance that mafia idled

1) That is arguably the most likely option since...

2) I just cannot see why mafia would choose to kill Mimi over Annie. If they killed Mimi, not only they confirm a ton of useful information that Mimi posted as legitimate but also they eased the scumhunting on lylo.

3) Annie the doc already said that she protected me.

mafia could try to kill the most town player out of the villies since killing you or annie is a 50/50 though idk

waiting for nan or mimi to post something

Charmaine is also really buddying with Mimi here. "Maybe the mafia tried to kill someone instead of Annie because..." Charmaine x Mimi scumteam? It would make sense at this point.

Also I think there's some sort of misunderstanding here with the probability that Mimi is scum. Here, I'll explain what happened to Charmaine and Ramona:

Ramona revealed her targets, saying that she targetted Mimi a lot of the nights that there were no kills. She thought that the mafia might have idled those nights, but realized also that it was extremely unlikely that the Mafia would idle on specifically those nights, especially Night 2. Charmaine, for some reason, thought Ramona was saying that the Mafia likely idled, and pointed out that it didn't. Hopefully this should settle the confusion.

if mimi doesn't make a statement by tomorrow afternoon, I will lynch her or Charmaine

I think the Night 2 dilemma is more so "Did my jailkeep protect or block Mimi?" rather than the whole idling thing.

As for last night, mafia had no reason not to kill the doctor. So the dilemma there is whether the mafia idled or did Mimi tried to do the kill.

Also, please be careful of mafia stealth lynching.