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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

I call 666th post!
by Sayuri K.
on Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:32 pm
 
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Temaku T. wrote:I have decent guesses for most people...
but I have nothing for you, Ogata.


was expecting you to rhyme it.

smh Temaku.
by Sayuri K.
on Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:34 pm
 
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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

ajhockeystar wrote:
Kazuchi O. wrote:I'm so skilled....

And beautiful.


inb4 aj proposes
by Sayuri K.
on Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:34 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:sayuri, whoever you are, i fucking hate you


Well, considering you didn't think Ogata+Temaku was a thing either, I wouldn't say it's completely my fault town lost. The only scum team I thought made ANY sense was me+Ogata, but obviously that wasn't a thing. I'm not gonna lynch Ogata if I don't think it's logical for him to be partnered with anyone else.

Thanks for the cheerful comment though. Smile
by Sayuri K.
on Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:32 pm
 
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Temaku T. wrote:How's that head of yours doing, Sayuri? Wink


Very poor condition.

Twas interesting how the ONLY people who didn't suspect me at some point were the mafia...guess I was too scummy, stopping bandwagons, trying to lead the town to its death, and magically influencing people to carry out my evil wishes.

Don't think it mattered if we survived till today or not...Ogata would've been lynched, then me or Gligarman. Bleh. Btw I figured out that Temaku was bussing Kazuchi. Sorta.

I was really, really, really bad scumhunting. Incredibly bad. Aj, make me scum next game? Pretty please? Laughing

by Sayuri K.
on Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:53 pm
 
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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

sigh

That game...that game...that game...I have no words.
by Sayuri K.
on Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:16 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:if ogata is mafia, whichever user you are, im gonna kill you


If Ogata is mafia then my brain will explode.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:03 pm
 
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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

Thank you.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:00 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:i just feel like mafia would be more invested to stay on until last minute.


So if you think Gligarman is mafia...

WHY ARE YOU LYNCHING OGATA?!?!
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:59 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:dude he came on 8 minutes before deadline and when he had the whole day.


Are you mixing Gligarman and Ogata up?
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:58 pm
 
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Well, after Ogata flips town in about 4 minutes, here's what we do tonight:

Everyone use your self protect. If you don't have your self protect, just make sure you don't protect Sakie. The mafia can kill anyone and win, so don't just protect clear people.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:57 pm
 
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Game 13: Protect Wisely!

McKenzie COME ON.

by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:55 pm
 
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I swear, if we lose because Ogata, Temaku, and McKenzie all fail to come on before deadline...
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:13 pm
 
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Sakie and Gligarman are both lynching Ogata despite having no viable scum-partner for him.

Ogata, McKenzie, I need you to come on and lynch Sakie.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:48 pm
 
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Okay, for tonights protects:

If we lynch a towny, we must use a protect. If you still have both protects, self protect is MUCH more valuable, because you're guaranteed to protect a town member. If Ogata is lynched, (which looks very likely because Gligarman and Sakie are scumteaming it up on him and, unless Temaku comes on, he's dead.) and he flips town, DO NOT PROTECT SAKIE.

If we lynch a mafia, only protect yourself if you are in danger of getting killed. (aka you're cleared)
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:40 pm
 
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Oh, sorry.

If we lynch Ogata, and he flips mafia, we lynch me. If he's town, we lynch Sakie.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:37 pm
 
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The Gligarman wrote:I can't delve on this much at the moment, but I'd like to raise awareness to this:

If we lynch Person A and they are mafia, what then?

If we lynch Person A and they are town, what then?

I can't really analyse these questions because I haven't been active enough, but someone could substitute each player and see what happens before making a post on that, I'd be most grateful.


If we lynch Sakie and she is mafia, we lynch you or Temaku tomorrow. If she's town, we lynch Ogata.

If we lynch Gligarman and he's mafia, we lynch Sakie tomorrow. If we lynch Gligarman and he flips town, we lynch Sakie or Ogata tomorrow.

If we lynch me and I flip mafia, we lynch Ogata tomorrow. If we lynch me and I flip town, we lynch Sakie.

If we lynch Temaku and she flips mafia, we lynch Sakie tomorrow. If she flips town, we lynch Sakie, Gligarman, or Ogata tomorrow.

If we lynch McKenzie...we just made the stupidest decision ever.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:17 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:ugggggh you're right.  I don't know then.  I still think Ogata is the most likely scum.


You think I'm not scum, and every other scum team you brought up for Ogata makes no sense...so why do you still suspect him?

You've basically just called yourself scum.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:42 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:also this maybe suicidal but can everyone state what protects they have left? we could possibly cover everyone if this lynch goes wrong then lynch tomorrow idk


If we trust someone to protect someone else and that person turns out to be mafia...we're screwed. We can't give the mafia any information about protects.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:40 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:
Sayuri K. wrote:
Sakie H. wrote:Alright.  Since I lost confidence in the Ogata/Gligarman scumteam, I looked to the only other possible scum in my eyes: Temaku.  After reading through 10 PAGES of posts (;-Wink, I didn't really see Temaku/Gligarman as very viable.  However, I did see jumping on Ogata from time to time and then leaving him alone.  It's not the most likely scumteam I've ever seen, but with everyone playing fairly intelligently and not making many super rash decisions, it's the best theory that I've got.


I thought we established that Temaku would just lynch you if she was scum but not in a scum team with you?

At this point I wouldn't be surprised by a Gligarman Sakie scum team. Despite "suspecting" a Gligarman+Ogata team, she's gone mainly onto Ogata and been very lenient on Gligarman.

Gligarman, Temaku, whichever one of you is town, lynch Sakie.

Lynch Sakie


Temakus lynch on Kezochi came super early in the day and told him to "stop lurking and start helping".  If she was scum with Ogata, she would have noticed later on in the day that since noone else was lynching, she couldn't have saved Kezochi by unlynching.  Your theory would only make sense if Temaku lynched Kezochi near deadline and you only suspect me and Gligarman as a scumteam so you can ask one of them to lynch me.  I know you're most likely town but like McKenzie circa day 3 I don't agree with your logic.


How is Temaku+Ogata more viable? Like I said before, if Temaku is scum teamed with ANYONE besides you, she could've just lynched you and saved Kazuchi. Temaku+Anyone besides you isn't viable, unless you think she give the town a free mafia lynch.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:Alright.  Since I lost confidence in the Ogata/Gligarman scumteam, I looked to the only other possible scum in my eyes: Temaku.  After reading through 10 PAGES of posts (;-Wink, I didn't really see Temaku/Gligarman as very viable.  However, I did see jumping on Ogata from time to time and then leaving him alone.  It's not the most likely scumteam I've ever seen, but with everyone playing fairly intelligently and not making many super rash decisions, it's the best theory that I've got.


I thought we established that Temaku would just lynch you if she was scum but not in a scum team with you?

At this point I wouldn't be surprised by a Gligarman Sakie scum team. Despite "suspecting" a Gligarman+Ogata team, she's gone mainly onto Ogata and been very lenient on Gligarman.

Gligarman, Temaku, whichever one of you is town, lynch Sakie.

Lynch Sakie
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:41 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:lynch Ogata

I'm keeping my lynch on Ogata for the rest of the day.  Sayuri's actions yesterday make her clear in my eyes, and of the 3 unclear besides myself, I don't see a more likely scum than Ogata.  We still have 6 hours, there's plenty of time to discuss if people get on.


Explain how a Gligarman+Ogata team makes any sense at all. Why would Gligarman LEAD A LYNCH on his partner on mylo?
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:15 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:
Sayuri K. wrote:
Sakie H. wrote:just looked back at game 12, and what you're saying is flawed logic.  Yes, Kezoki and Mizuho were on almost every lynch, but most of the time they were the only 2 people or most of the group once Brandon showed up.  They were also mostly leading the lynches, and while I can't speak for Temaku, I've mostly been for other lynches and then switched over by someone else's logic, usually Sayuri's.  I don't think my end of day lynch has ever matched my first lynch of the day, except day 3 (not 100% sure on that).


Again with the bandwagoning = not bad logic?



Im not band'wagoning on lynches.  None of my lynches have been "oh look everyones lynching x player lets lynch them."  I've always provided a reason for every single one of my lynches, save day 3. The Lillian lynch is the only one you can say I bandwagonned on, and you were on that lynch as well.


I still don't see your point. It doesn't matter who is leading and who is following, you two were still on every towny lynch.
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:14 pm
 
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Sakie H. wrote:just looked back at game 12, and what you're saying is flawed logic.  Yes, Kezoki and Mizuho were on almost every lynch, but most of the time they were the only 2 people or most of the group once Brandon showed up.  They were also mostly leading the lynches, and while I can't speak for Temaku, I've mostly been for other lynches and then switched over by someone else's logic, usually Sayuri's.  I don't think my end of day lynch has ever matched my first lynch of the day, except day 3 (not 100% sure on that).


Again with the bandwagoning = not bad logic?
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:59 pm
 
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McKenzie Q. wrote:
Sayuri K. wrote:

Those posts I quoted up there that I found take a huge hit to the possibility of a Ogata+Sakie scum team.

When I made those posts you quoted, I thought there was no way Temaku could be scum. Ogata+Sakie was iffy, and Gligarman+Sakie was iffy, and I really didn't see Gligarman+Ogata as a possibility. However, Georgio+Sakie and Georgio+Ogata could potentially make sense.

I was convinced that it was Georgio. Then he flipped town. Those posts you quoted are outdated. It was before Georgio flipped town, and I noticed that Sakie and Temaku have been on every single lynch on a town member.

Now, answer me this: as a mafia, why would I say something like "if Georgio flips town, I'm confirmed scum," if I know Georgio will flip town, and it's not a mylo or lylo day?


"outdated" so apparently 1 day is outdated now. i havent seen temaku do anything that makes me think shes mafia and apparently shes now on your list because you have ran out of possible suspects to throw out and that town hopefully lynches.


If that one day gives us a massive amount of info, then yes.

I'm not just pulling this out of nowhere. Look at past games. On game 11, all the townies that were lynched had either Butler, Makino, or both on the lynch. Same with game 12. Every lynch involved a combo of the three mafia: Kezoki, Mizunho, and Warden.

Now, it you not find it the least bit strange that Temaku and Sakie have been on every towny lynch?
by Sayuri K.
on Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:29 am
 
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