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im now 20 pts ahead of drookez gg tg rof
by Rhyanna F.
on Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:13 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

rodman #1 getting more points than half of town is funny
gg to all, well deserved mvp for penelope
by Rhyanna F.
on Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:10 pm
 
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i dont know what that means but youre welcome
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:37 pm
 
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yeah i had fun this game
penelope played excellently and I didn't really consider her as mafia at all in the later phases of the game
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:33 pm
 
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Game 28: Guess Who?

I thought wilma was scum, although this was mainly due to me townreading molly. I was very surprised that the people on each side of the wilma/molly lynch were town, but I suppose mistakes happen (re: wilma not realizing it was lylo)
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:33 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

honestly though props to rodman for stepping his activity up in spades on lylo, and props to kylan for clutching the win. I thought we had 0% chance of winning but somehow you both delivered
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:30 pm
 
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Yeah thinking about it sanpei changing up his readslist looks bad for penelope too
i thought that her saying that you got killed for being the town leader was very strange but didn't pay much heed to it
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:30 pm
 
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honestly I was going to be very upset because the failed deadline might have screwed us over, and I thought we were completely done before Kylan came out of nowhere and clutched it
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:12 pm
 
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My thoughts on Kylan's inactivity at the start of the day:
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My thoughts on Kylan lynching Penelope:
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by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:04 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

same
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:00 pm
 
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Game 29: Guess Who?

Mafia, i hate you for not killing me first and letting me finish with a positive number of points even if town lost

good luck townies, glad i don't have to worry about this game anymore!
by Rhyanna F.
on Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:57 pm
 
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oh ok
I think that's a fair point but im still pretty set on Rodman being town
also thinking about it Carl could have just been attempting to set up an out for himself by scumleaning both Kylan and Rodman, given that I doubt anyone was going to lynch either of us two today and by saying that he hadn't really decided between the two he has an easy way to lynch either one right before deadline
granted, carl is probably being lynched because i don't see rodman lynching himself...
by Rhyanna F.
on Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:
im not feeling sorry for myself, i think my points of view are correct right now, but im clearly viewed as scummy by the majority of the game, that's just a fact. if you guys change your opinion on me fairdos, but its not the end of the world to lynch me considering im sure lynching me would totally clear things up for you guys.

i did say horatio was scummier yes. i did move onto the pj wagon because of the lack of movement on it yeah, and personally thats sort of what im saying about it right now. i just really didnt elaborate my thoughts about everything with jacuzzi to be honest (the post ian scumlean like i said).

still in favour of a kylan over a rodman this second, but ill pop on later and respond to some stuff/make my mind up.

Right so i'm still not understanding why you chose to move to PJ over Horatio, given that logically if you scumread Horatio more you should have been lynching him. From what I can tell, the only reason you gave was that you didn't see the Horatio wagon moving forward any more.
If you could repost your reasoning behind kylan/rodman potentially being scum that would be good, esp if you are town and we do lynch you today

Penelope C. wrote:RIP the whole “~16 hours” thing I guess.

@Rhyanna: Looking back at Anita’s posts, I don’t see that much defeatism. If anything, she only started contributing and defending herself when she realized that she was about to be lynched. Even then, we used a similar “That’s what Anita did” logic when discussing Jacuzzi, who wasn’t scum. I do agree that it’s a significant change from Carl’s normal playstyle, but given that we were discussing his aggression before hand I feel like he would change it regardless of alignment.

@Rodman: Basically what Rhyanna said. Also, as far as the way people play on PS goes, this is a great place to try a new playing style without getting lynched for acting differently. The difference between Rodman’s and Carl’s defeatism is that I can see scum!Rodman using it with confidence that Carl will still be lynched. Also regarding this:

The Rodman wrote:I can also see how I can be the "sit back in the shadows guy", but I assure you when I am mafia I make an effort to be active and "townie”.


I said this to Anita day 1, but that’s what mafia should be doing anyway and this is the same kind of wifom she used in her defense. I know I mentioned above that saying “That’s what Anita did” isn’t valid reasoning, but this seems more like a case of “I’m sorry if I do anything scummy, but you should excuse it because I’m always like that as town.”

As the deadline is in ~3 hours I don’t know if Kylan be online soon/long enough for a great deal of discussion. Judging from “last time online” he still hasn’t seen any of today. I wouldn’t be opposed to a lynch on him, but I do want to wait a bit longer to see if there’s any chance of him coming on and giving his thoughts. I should be able to be on up to the dl. At the moment I’m debating between Carl and Rodman with a lean towards the latter. The main thing that holds me back is that the kill on Sanpei seems like a painfully blatant frame on Rodman. (“Pre-emptive” edit: Went back to look at Sanpei’s reads before he died to check again on who a changed readlist would threaten. None of Sanpei’s scumreads from the last concrete list are alive, but Rodman was mentioned as being neutral with a potential scum lean.)

Second "pre-emptive" edit: I went to post this and saw that Kylan had posted while I was preparing this. What I wanted to see was if he would simply continue to tunnel Carl, and at the moment I'm not sure if that's what he's done. He mentioned other players, but it's the same "yeah they exist" and going back to Carl. On the subject of that:

what ~16 hours thing?

I was talking more about the "yeah I did that, i'm sorry" kinda stuff that we've seen from Carl too. I suppose that you are right about PJ possessing similar characteristics to Anita, but I don't think WIFOM and this defeatism/apologeticisim/whatever you call it are the same kind of thing.

I agree that rodman's defeatism/whatever that was looks bad and im also not a fan of the wifom

Also not a fan of Kylan still only tunneling Carl, should he flip town im almost certain Kylan is scum
logically though it doesn't make sense for Kylan to screw himself that way so I doubt he's scum right now
by Rhyanna F.
on Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:25 pm
 
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The Rodman wrote:Honestly I feel like I am a very useless player. Even on PS I backpack off my fellow townies, and as far as reads go, I have never been the type to have actual reasons. I have primarily based the majority of my lynches off of gut feeling and reading the way people talk. I can also see how I can be the "sit back in the shadows guy", but I assure you when I am mafia I make an effort to be active and "townie". So it is very hard to townread me or scumread me because when I am close to being townread, my lack of reason makes me look scummy. So far everyone of my town reads, and 1 scum read have died (Manning). Honestly I still feel Carl as I have mentioned before, but I am fearful that my town read (Rhyanna) could be really good scum.


The Rodman wrote:Also, if some of you feel I am useless, you may as well lynch me to have better players in LyLo

can you people not do this defeatist stuff it isnt fun and just makes you look bad

rodman one thing that would really help is if you could explain who you think is town, who you think is scum, why, and then order everyone. You've provided your thoughts before, but a lot of us (or at least I) have wanted to understand why you think what you think. Doing this would also be super helpful because we have no idea where your head is at right now.
by Rhyanna F.
on Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:12 am
 
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the defeatism only makes him look worse in my eyes esp since it's very similar to what Anita did + it's a massive change from how hes normally presented himself
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:20 pm
 
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ok there are six guests online. SIX! At least one of those has to be someone from this game, so if you don't post i'm assuming you're lurking and i'm probably going to lynch you.
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:04 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:its in a day rhyanna, says thursday on the lynch count. i've made shitty plays tbh. im sorry i never brought the clearing up of pj lynch up rhyanna, i personally had a feeling due to the ian death that PJ was therefore likely scum. I didn't really make that clear as of the time of the lynch, and my sincerest apologies for not really getting that out there. with the horatio/pj thing, i personally lynched pj like you said as i felt the horatio lynch wasn't moving. i had established a pretty clear read on both horatio and PJ at that point, and i don't get why people think that's somewhat suspicious of me to choose to lynch him because of it. I simply just moved over because I felt he was a better lynch for d3.

my scumreads right now are kylan + rodman, kylan over rodman however. i sorta brought up why kylan was acting off in my above rant, i just personally feel that he hasnt been able to be held accountable for much of the game and therefore hasn't really shown much because of the lack of presence. his only posts really are only minimal as of late (quoting then pointing something out from my blocks of text), and it honestly feels from my perspective as a townie an aimed targetting of me to simply just get an easy lynch (however i really don't understand why scum wouldnt keep me til next lynch if they want an easy townie to pick off [unless they want to lead a lynch on me and look 'townie' for leading analysis and killing a townie]). rodman my view hasnt changed a bit from my previous posts. honestly, if you guys think a me lynch is best, go for it. im defos making the game a lot more complicated with my shitty posts. however, i'd totally advise a kylan lynch at this stage from me.
lynch kylan r.

oh
still, would like more people to post

don't feel sorry for yourself that just makes you look bad
didn't you say you thought horatio was scummier but moved onto the pj wagon bc you felt the horatio wagon wasn't going anywhere? that's not what you seem to be saying now

i think you do bring up a good point on kylan and would like to hear about him wrt other people that aren't you.
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:42 pm
 
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never mind deadline is in 3 hours and 50 minutes
that being said i'd really like if people could get on, i dislike being the only person here
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:14 pm
 
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Carl G. wrote:
Leaning Scum:
Anita B. - here's an exaggerated description of Anita's posts - filler filler shitty post with lack of reasoning filler filler. it's a bit much but I hope you all get the point at least, as Anita just hasn't been very contributive and very conducive towards helping town through the game. Shit posts like "Then why aren't you scum :^)" just isn't helping anyone, and generally her commentary isn't in agreement with what my point of view currently is. Think she's a pretty certain scum lean at the moment. Not going to lynch yet though, still need to think I feel

Worth mentioning that Carl's only scumread was Anita, although he never really followed up on it.

Anita B. wrote:
I have a town read on Carl G, Rhyanna F., Professor Jacuzzi and Ian S.. Carl G I've had a town read on this entire game, and that's the exact reason I didn't ask him to "come back" like Jacuzzi and Horatio got triggered by. His first post gives him a townish presence, whilst his secondary post is just overall useful towards reads and their reasoning imo. Rhyanna F. has been constantly scumhunting, trying to incite discussion and overall helping town on their way. Jacuzzi whilst he's active has been useful, and created the first "good" post explaining why I'm scum. Ian S. has just been overall helpful this entire game after learning it existed, which is good.

I'm neutral on Sanpei S., because yes he's been jumping and helping discussion, he's very flippant with his lynches and Imo it seems like he doesn't care who dies. I could just be bad though

Rodman is neutral bc I got nothing on him. Manning is also neutral bc he comes back, but doesn't do too much with his comeback post, simply stating reads but not much reasoning for it. However, he doesn't hammer me, which as scum, would've been the easiest thing to do. (Following that logic, I feel like scum has to be someone inactive or already on my lynch)

Horatio A. is p scummy because it feels more like he's just spitting back out reasoning others have used and hasn't done anything much else otherwise. However, I may have missed something.

Accidentally deleted the part where she goes after Penelope but it feels like it's a similar situation with Rodman, where she goes after someone and then switches her target when no other lynches follow. I think Anita was just throwing out a ton of lynches to see what would stick (which means i'm fairly certain Penelope is town too).
it's relevant that both Ian and Carl are moved to the townpile despite not posting anything of use between her last post (where they werent in the townpile) and this one.
She also doesn't mention Kylan. This means one of two things: 1) She forgot about Kylan like the rest of us, or 2) Kylan's her scumpartner and she didn't mention him to avoid there being any connections between the two of them, knowing that we wouldn't be paying much attention since Kylan was basically gone at that point

Carl G. wrote:
right responses that i wanted to get done there, anyway im honestly unsure about my lynch. considering deadline is soon, im personally feeling like im gonna go with the consensus and lynch PJ. I feel as if my current read on him and the evidence against him are all pretty strong, and i feel as if it would be good to clear somethings up, as well as totally aid us in d4.

lynch prof jacuzzi

Carl never actually says what the PJ lynch clears up, so this makes him look pretty bad. It seems like just general reasoning to try and cover his own tracks.

Carl G. wrote:shame to lose sanpei today, guess i'll just have to
lynch horatio a.

in response to me saying about lynching horatio and then lynching pj, i just personally felt like i should lynch him. i still had a neutral to scum read on him in some cases, and a horatio lynch was going nowhere in the last 5-10 hours considering PJ was at L-2 before my lynch. just personally felt like i may as well considering it would help me make my mind up more in terms of my reads. i'll drop some more stuff later tonight with a bit more analysis about the past day i guess.

He never posts as to what the PJ lynch helps him make his mind up in wrt to his reads, and it still feels like this reasoning is fake/forced/whatever.

Carl does bring up a good point about Kylan RE: tunneling Carl and only doing that, but ultimately i'm still set on Carl as a lynch for now.
I think that when I was reading back, Carl looked townie at the start of the game and got scummier as it went on. I believe that he's also been busy recently, which means that he's more likely to make mistakes when posting, and I think that's what has caused the scumminess (whether it's because hes scumslipping or because he's unintentionally looking scummy by not thinking through his posts and posting scummy things as a result)

I think deadline is really soon and nobody else seems to be here so it would be nice if people could show up, i'm really not a fan of being the only person voting today given how close we are to LYLO

I'm also fairly certain both Penelope and Rodman are town, so should we lynch one of Carl/Kylan and they flip town, I think that the other is a safe bet to lynch tomorrow (and should 99% be the scum in the game)
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:14 pm
 
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Would be nice to learn who you think is scum, Carl, as you didn't really say who you thought it was in your most recent post.
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:50 pm
 
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I'm going to re-read everything because im fairly unsure as to who I want to lynch today, but at the moment it's carl. Some of the reasons for this are:

Not lynching Anita at the end of the day - granted this can be entirely attributed to him forgetting to do so, making it a weak point, but he stated he wanted to hear from Anita again after she had made a defense, whereas she had already made one recently (right before manning lynched her), which COULD have been an opportunity to try and shift lynches at the last minute.

Lynching Professor Jacuzzi instead of Horatio - I'm comparing Carl to Manning again, but both had a higher scumread on Horatio yet acted differently with their lynch. If i'm remembering correctly, Carl believed that Horatio was more likely scum than PJ but jumped on the PJ wagon because he believed the lynch wasn't going to change. In contrast, Manning stuck to the Horatio wagon and didn't budge, although neither really pushed for Horatio very much. What doesn't make sense is that as town, Carl has no reason to lynch PJ if he scumreads Horatio more, and he probably should have pushed to get Horatio lynched (although Manning didn't really do that either).

Some of the things Kylan has brought up - I don't agree with all of them, but some of them (e.g. the slight defense of me against Sanpei)

Some slight Process of Elimination (this one is rather weak but if other people have something to say about it it would be good to hear):
Assuming scum play optimally -
Penelope immediately bringing up that me not being nightkilled is a frame and then stating that it doesn't change her view on me as town doesn't make sense to do as mafia (counterpoint: It's possible that she could be mafia that hasn't nightkilled me because i'm currently strongly townreading her, and she's trying to move people's mind off of my theory that i'm being kept alive because my reads are off).
Kylan naming two people as locktown and not killing either one as mafia makes no sense, since more than likely one of those two people will be present in LYLO and will thus effectively decide his fate rather than the whole situation being a toss-up, which would be better for mafia (counterpoint: Kylan is playing suboptimally to have a better chance of being townread by this "locktown" in LYLO).
I already brought up why I think Rodman is town (counterpoint: he hasn't been useful at all and could just be lurking scum + Anita successfully tried to distance herself from him)

Lynch Carl
gonna look back now.
by Rhyanna F.
on Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:49 pm
 
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Kylan>Penelope>Rodman>Carl is my current town>scum
me not getting nightkilled makes me think rodman COULD be a viable scum but i'm not certain that that's the case since I don't think Anita was smart enough to do a weak bus on day 1
by Rhyanna F.
on Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:34 am
 
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I'm convinced that i'm being kept alive because my reads are completely wrong.
I was planning on defending Horatio before AJ messed up the deadlines, and the point I was going to make is that it made zero sense for Horatio to not nightkill me, given that I was going after him should PJ fail to be scum.
Due to the first point, along with things I mentioned yesterday + what Kylan said, i'm leaning towards scum being Carl. I'm thinking it COULD be Penelope as well, but I don't really have any evidence for that (I could look back and see if I find anything later).
I'm pretty upset at AJ although he's only human and mistakes can happen, because it's very likely that him messing up deadline likely changes the pace of this whole game.
by Rhyanna F.
on Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:33 am
 
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oh horatio is at l-1
nobody lynch him

aj can we have an extension
by Rhyanna F.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:05 am
 
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what motivation does horatio have to kill sanpei over me is my question
i was going to be going after horatio after pj flipped so killing sanpei doesn't make sense from his pov
maybe he's mindgaming us all though
by Rhyanna F.
on Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:30 am
 
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