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Momoko D. wrote:I also told AJ that the werewolves wouldn't have nightkilled me if Eliza flipped town, but when she changed to Mafia the werewolves probably reconsidered and killed me instead. D:

Read our QT, that's actually what happened LOL

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Emily R. wrote:

Momoko D. wrote:No, I am disappointed that I pointed out that either Kyle or Victor was almost certain to be a scum and no one but me picked up on that.

Also I am sad that you lead the town and no one questioned it :c

I questioned it ;_;

But it is not weird that people don't usually question town leaders, unless it's another equally active person

I totally questioned it, didn't you see me push the world of Kiyo + Victor?

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Thanks for the carry Victor~ (^.^)v

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Victor W. wrote:Stop trying to pin things on me, I simply made you actually take a stand on things instead of being wishy-washy on literally everything. You hadn't actually taken a strong opinion (or lynched anyone, I believe) up until now.

Also, you know that Kiyo lynched Zach because of his early paranoia, right? He literally said that. I do agree with your part about The Hunter, though.

...what is "traffic-cop-y"?

Emily can't be a mafia unless she did some extreme bussing. If she's scum, she's ww, and teamed with you or Shingo (or Kyle, but i'm fairly certain he's town).
The point you brought up regarding Shingo and Kiyo actually is very similar to my point about you and Emily - and you parroting my reasoning like that makes me think you're Emily's ww partner over Shingo.
...yet the fact that you were so neutral on the mafia lynches, erm well on lynches in general until you were pushed seems like safe scum play, as in mafia play for this case.

Well, i'm fairly certain you're scum at this point, but I really dont know which.

Acting like a traffic cop, dictating what topics are discussed throughout the game, trying to make sure that people actually contribute, pushing on people for stuff, etc.

As for Emily's "extreme" bus-ing, it's not like she voted on Zach, likewise, Eliza was going to die that day no matter what, so may as well put the extra lynch in, though not exactly as last minute as Hunter's late lynch on Zach.

For me taking a stance on Kiyo, how can I not just pin it on you? I've said multiple times that there is a chance that Kiyo is town, by way of his playstyle, but playstyle doesn't mean shit when you don't back up your lynches/defenses on people. Granted, others may pick up on scumtells/reactions based on the lynches that he started, yes. But it's not indicative of his alignment, as he can push onto anyone that isn't his partner, in the case of him being WW, and see what comes of it. Basically, 3 people reacted badly, 2 of those people turned out to be mafia, and one turned out to be town. He started the lynch on the two mafia, and avoided lynching the town in Hunter to try and lynch Emily. Sure that's a pretty town-looking lynch record, but there's still the 3rd faction that you might have to consider.

Also, Kyle, you're pretty much the confirmed non-confirmed town at this point, why don't you see Kiyo as WW

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Victor W. wrote:Actually Moe... do me a favor.
I want you to state who the three scum are from your point of view.
Then, I want you to state why.

Okay, since you keep pressing me to go one way or the other on Kiyo, I'm going to say Kiyo is WW (because its highly unlikely that he's mafia at this point, blah blah blah). The biggest reason I think Kiyo is scum, is his reads, although he's got a pretty good vote record, getting both Zach & Eliza, and not voting on Hunter. He's not been giving much of anything in his posts, he's just said things along the lines of "this is the lynch" and "we're not lynching this guy", rarely giving concrete reasons to why he thinks "this is the lynch", and why "we shouldn't lynch this guy". Sure, Eliza saying she had reads, then failing to deliver is a good enough reason to start the lynch (I already gave him that), but I'm pretty sure the Zach lynch was still random (to start). Likewise, his Hunter "defense", if you can call it that, was just "Hey don't lynch him he's crying town right now", without pointing out what parts of his posts screamed town to him.
tl;dr - I think Kiyo is a WW

That leaves the ww partner + the final mafia straggler.

In the world that Kiyo is WW (which Victor has so kindly forced me on), his partners would most likely be Victor/Shingo (Kyle's posts seem too "emotionally town", and Emily... well, why would you go so hard trying to bus your partner at this stage of the game).
Victor, he's been pushing on me to read Kiyo one way or the other, definitively. While that's not bad, he's just continually pressing the issue, despite me giving my undecided views on the matter, I've more or less agreed that he can't be mafia, and he's been on my ass trying to get me to say that he is or isn't WW for the entire day now. Regardless, Victor can be in any world of WW to me, except the world where Emily is WW, because of what I said previously in regards to Emily + Kiyo. He's been a pretty vocal member of society these past few days (ingame), and trying to rouse the conversation, but it often comes up as "traffic-cop-y" which in my book, depending on how you do it can be scummy.
Shingo... there's literally no connection that Kiyo made with Shingo, and Shingo only made the one read on him earlier and that was that he seemed town, but could also be WW too, lol. Could be that they made it a point to not interact with each other, but now that I think about it, it's a pretty unlikely pairing.

That leaves the final Mafia...

Could be Emily, really. I can see Kiyo trying to get 3/3 Mafia down as WW, therefore winning the game right there. She's still yet to convince me, or anyone I think, that she's town despite the lynch falling on her today.

The problem now is, What's the world where Emily is WW? Well, Kiyo has to be town, but who's her partner? The only one I can see Emily paired with is Shingo (and Kyle, but... you know...), and that's a pretty shaky connection (though they do actually have a connection unlike Kiyo + Shingo). That would also make the final mafia someone like Kyle or Victor lol.

Regardless, this is the world I've been pushed into...
lynch Kiyo

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Victor W. wrote:

Kyle L. wrote:I meant to say softing*

I don't think I was softing either of you two as town, I pretty much explicitly stated that I think you're the other two town left.

Moe P. wrote:

Victor W. wrote:Don't dodge the question, i'd like a yes or no answer. If no, explain why.

I said in my previous post that I'd like to see more substantial reads from him, and that I did agree with your "attitude" assessment of him.

So do you think he's town or not?

If you want me to make a decision based solely on how he's played this game, irregardless of his reads, I'd say yes he's town. But, if I were to base it on anything else, I would say he's not towny enough for me.

As for Emily's partners, if she were to flip WW, would have to be Shingo or Kyle. She can't be partnered with Victor or Kiyo at this point because neither of them should want her lynched right now. Which leads me to believe that her partner is Shingo... since I don't really see Kyle as scum, based solely on his last few posts. (They don't sound like scum that's irritated at how this game is doing compared to the other game, rather they sound like a town irritated at how each game got to their current situation).

Conversely, it could just be Victor + Kiyo trying to end the game. Kiyo got lucky with his first random lynch, then sniffed out another mafia based off of Eliza saying she had reads, but in actuality didnt have any at all.

Kiyo would be my lynch if Emily can convince me to not lynch her, I don't see any other WW teams other than Emily + Shingo, and Kiyo + Victor (hell, even Shingo + Kiyo is a thing probably... but i don't want to think about that right now). And Emily/Kiyo seem to be the two that would get the most backing for a lynch. Emily would vote for Kiyo, and vice versa. Kyle would probably vote on Emily, unless Emily can convince him otherwise. Victor's already on Emily, and "believes" Kiyo to be town so that's that. And I'm the same as what I think Kyle would do...

So.. Emily, convince us please.

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Also, where on earth is Emily? I would have thought she'd be putting out more content considering she'd be lynched at the end of the day...

And if you're saying that Emily is either paired with Shingo or myself, what does Shingo have to say about that? For me, the only connection between Emily and I are the fact that she sorta town read me in that one post you quoted (Victor), and the fact that I made one post about her making one post of substance and not posting more. That's a pretty thin connection, granted I've connected other people together for less.

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Victor W. wrote:Don't dodge the question, i'd like a yes or no answer. If no, explain why.

I said in my previous post that I'd like to see more substantial reads from him, and that I did agree with your "attitude" assessment of him.

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Victor W. wrote:I dunno, I get a towny vibe from Kyle's play and it doesn't really make sense for him to be scum in my eyes because he doesn't really have a connection to any players that could be scum (maybe Emily, i guess, but it's a weak connection).
So Moe, do you agree with my assessment of Kiyo or not?

I can't refute the fact that Kiyo's "guns blazing" style doesn't seem like something scum would do. I just want to see more substantial reads coming from him, other than my first post after the game began, in reference to the Zach lynch.

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Victor W. wrote:Ok, we can establish that Kyle and Kiyo are not mafia, yes?
I think Kyle is town/not WW not only for his play but also because he suggested HYPO - no werewolf is going to want to suggest that, even though HYPO has a high chance of failing if the town does not commit.

As to whether or not they are mafia - Yes, it is very unlikely that either of them are mafia because in the case either of them are mafia, they'd have bus'd both of their partners lol

Kyle being clear of WW for suggesting HYPO d1 is hardly a reason. Yes, it makes him seem more town, I even said as much d1, but Kyle hasn't done much as of late. Where are your reads at Kyle

Emily R. wrote:Kiyo, I would prefer if you elaborate on your lynches. Also, didn't Victor just said NO ONE LYNCH???????????? Rushing to lynch anybody doesn't help right now. ._. Anyways, i would like to know why Victor thinks Kiyo is clean (Kyle i understand but an explanation would still be nice).

Again, why is Kyle clean lol

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What takes Kiyo/Kyle/yourself off of the WW list?

Yourself aside, what about the possibilities of Kiyo being ww, or Kyle for that matter?

Yes, Kiyo has practically led the lynches on 2 mafia so far. But there's still the chance he's WW.

Kyle as well, he was on both Zach & Eliza, though he was also on Hunter lol.

Regardless, please do tell us why you think both Kyle & Kiyo are off your WW list.

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Victor W. wrote:Ah, gotcha.
So are Kyle and I your top scum or were you just saying that we could still be scumteamed with other people?

I have no top scum right now, its just that the pairs i mentioned have connections to each other, in some way or another. If anything, I'm just highlighting for others if they have a scum read on any one in the pairs, to look at the other person I mentioned and consider if they would fit well on a scumteam together.

I am leaning towards either Shingo, Hunter, or possibly Emily. The first 2 have promised reads, and I'm still waiting for them. And Emily, she just "took a guess" at Eliza day 1. Turns out she was right, but never really backed up her reads too much. It's sort of the same with Kiyo, if I really think about it: Random lynch on Zach to start, then a lynch because Eliza never followed up on her "reads". Granted, the reactions of both were scummy. It's still possible that Kiyo could be a WW buddy with someone.

All in all, I'm down with lynching Shingo until further notice.

lynch Shingo

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Oh, i could have sworn you lynched Eliza... oops

And I'm saying if you are partnered with someone else, and you are distancing yourself from your partner, then it would be hard to figure out that you are together.

People may read each of a pair of scum independently as scum, but not necessarily make the connection that they're scum together without any proof, is what I'm saying.

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Victor W. wrote:@Moe: Kyle and I have lynched together once, calm yourself. Why haven't you mentioned Kyle and I other than in the situation where we are scumteamed? Is it impossible for us to be teamed with anyone else?

I'm pretty sure you've both lynched Zach & Eliza.

And yes, there are other possible pairs using you two, but my previous post was just about the connections I saw from the interactions between you guys. It's just that if they're in different pairs, which is pretty likely, then they're distancing themselves from each other, which makes it harder to form pairs, for obvious reasons.

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Well, that reveal made it easier for me to find ww teams...

I was going to say that Kiyo + Otoshi could have been a good WW team, except Otoshi can't be ww so... yeah.

There's the obvious Kyle + Victor ww team, however unlikely that may be. They've been buddy buddy since day 1 and have practically lynched as one person for the whole game.

That leaves a bunch of stragglers, namely Emily, Hunter, Shingo.

Possible that there's a Kiyo + Hunter ww team, Kiyo has been pretty much leading the lynches thus far, and on mafia too. There's not much connection other than the cross-inspection during the hypo claims yesterday, especially since they both don't talk much.

And finally that leaves Emily + Shingo, again, there isn't much of a relation because it's only Emily's 'reaction' lynch onto Shingo day 1, then rescinding it and not pressing further.

All in all, those are just the people with connections to each other. There isn't much to go on aside from the fact that we're not lynching Otoshi for a while. I do want to hear everyone's reads, especially Shingo's that he promised before deadline. As well, Emily + Hunter + Kiyo could talk more so we can get some decent reads on you three.

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@ Otoshi - I just meant that your suggestion to lynch an inactive yesterday seemed like an attempt to try and get the lynch off of Zach.

@ Victor - I rarely lynch, and piling on a 4th lynch (I think), at the time, would be unnecessary. In the end I never voted for Zach and just let you all lynch him.

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Shingo E. wrote:

Moe P. wrote:So Eliza, you got them reads?

and as far as the "zach would flip town" thing, I don't think that's indicative of anything.

I'd also like to know why Kiyo thinks Otoshi isn't the best lynch. Not saying I think he is, I would probably lynch Shingo, Hunter, or Emily right now (maybe Kiyo and Eliza too). I'd just like to hear them speak more.

I just feel like I can't really add anything. I've been paying attention and looking for a chance to say something, but I'd just end up fillering most of the time, and there's no point in that.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure the "Zach would flip town" thing was more a case of "Knowing our luck..." than a case of "This is definitely what will happen!".

Yeah, I do agree. I'm down to lynch a lurker/inactive today, though. This entire game has sort of died too.

Emily made the one post with substance, and has yet to provide more.

Eliza just warned us of the small chance that someone bussed Zach, other than that nothing. Everyone's still waiting for the reads that she had in her pocket as well.

Hunter thinks that Otoshi is scum because of his attempt to dissuade the lynch on Zach and try to lynch an inactive (pretty sure i said this already lol). I don't know if Hunter didn't read my post, or if he's deliberately trying to say something similar to what someone else said to try and pocket them but that's just speculation. I don't know what to think of Hunter right now.

Kiyo seems to be that guy that starts the lynch. His lynch on Zach (and the BW to follow), however random or calculated it may have been, basically blew Zach out of the water. The current lynch on Eliza, I think, is more of a "I'm lynching you to get your attention" because he wants Eliza's reads that she said she had in her pocket. I like that he's at least trying to get stuff done, so there's that.

Kyle hasn't been too active as of late, I can't really say much about him lol

Momoko seems very town in my eyes. She's analyzing a bunch of things that everyone's doing, like votes, inspects (I think), looking at possible teams. I just hope she posts her reads along with the compiled list of inspects now that everyone has claimed.

Otoshi is just filler city

Shingo seems like the guy that just lurks and doesn't comment unless he's got input, which can be either alignment lol. I can't really say he's town, but i can't say he's scum either, unless you count the team of Zach, Shingo, Otoshi lol

Victor is akin to Kyle on day 1 for being an active presence. He's been asking pointed questions, trying to navigate through the game, much like Momoko.

All in all, some possible teams I see are Kyle + Victor, Otoshi + Kiyo, and... yeah. Some like-minded people are also Momoko & Victor and I guess Me and Hunter, if that helps you in any way lol.

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So Eliza, you got them reads?

and as far as the "zach would flip town" thing, I don't think that's indicative of anything.

I'd also like to know why Kiyo thinks Otoshi isn't the best lynch. Not saying I think he is, I would probably lynch Shingo, Hunter, or Emily right now (maybe Kiyo and Eliza too). I'd just like to hear them speak more.

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Okay guys, Eliza isn't a werewolf.

As for who I think we should lynch, probably Shingo or The Hunter; Shingo for the strange early dissuasion on the bw of Zach, and The Hunter for the late vote onto Zach, despite having no posts of substance prior. Stacking on a vote that doesn't sway the outcome of the lynch is something I'd like to know the reason behind.

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Kyle L. wrote:

Victor W. wrote:

Zachary O. wrote:No seriously, I've been lynched for the most STUPID reasons. I heard "He was too paranoid" I heard "He was too defensize" I even heard "Zach, get ready to get lynched when day starts. I mean, I'd lynch Victor, but he's my bae now" (Stupidest one imo).

you're not understanding that the reasons we lynched you were stupid, but we kept them on you because you overreacted so much.
Anyways, are you seer? deadline is coming soon and we need to know so we can unlynch you if you are.

Victor bb, if he was seer, he would have claimed by now. I hope. Zach, if you're seer, we're stupid for lynching you but you're stupider for not claiming

Even if he was seer, he shouldn't have to claim D1. You literally have no information and you'll likely get killed in the night, so pretty much Zach is in a lose-lose situation, in my eyes. He can't claim seer if he's seer, and he's just going to end up dying today. lol

I do agree on the reads thing though, any reads he has will be useful. If he flips scum, we'll have to look read between the lines, but if he flips town we'll have some things to go off at the start of tomorrow at least.

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Otoshi F. wrote:

Moe P. wrote:I'm for lynching Zach or Otoshi today. Zach's defensiveness is warranted yes, but I think he's overreacting. Otoshi is fillering like mad, as well as trying to get the lynch off of Zach.

On the other hand, it seems like everyone's just commenting on that very fact and watching to see if Zach continues to squirm.

If we do end up lynching Zach, his alignment will actually give us decent information, though.

quote it, right now, where I defend Zachary, I'm interested to see where I did it

Otoshi F. wrote:Yep I've checked all my posts and the closest thing to defending Zachary that I've said is that we should lynch an inactive

unlynch Mr.Briney Lynch Moe P.

Until he can prove me wrong

Yeah, that's actually the post I was referring to, it seemed like you were subtly trying to get the lynch off of Zach and onto an inactive. There was no "hard defense", and i see why everyone's jumping on me for my choice of words lol.

Victor W. wrote:@Moe
Where is Otoshi trying to get the lynch off of Zach?
Also, do you have any views on others, or are you nullreading everyone else and scumreading those two?
Finally, what information will his alignment give us?

1) Again, it was the subtle thing of suggesting to lynch an inactive instead.
2) I can only try and read who's talked so far, but I'm not necessarily scumreading those two. It's just that I'm trying to create possible scum circles based on early interactions for now. For example, two people have tried to dissuade people off of the Zach turbo, Shingo & Otoshi - possible they're not aligned at all, but its something to talk about if any other connections arise. Then there's Kiyo, Briney, and Hunter who haven't contributed at all - therefore null. The moe girl squad of Eliza, Momoka, and Emily - There's nothing connecting them other than them being kawaii. Finally Kyle and Victor, two people 'running the show' - probably not together but who knows.

That said, I like Kyle & Victor for asking questions and trying to confirm reads on people.
The moe girl squad is too kawaii to lynch at this moment, for me.
Then the 'inactive' people - who are still null; i'd lynch any of them today
That leaves Zach, Shingo & Otoshi; two of which I would lynch, I forget why exactly I didn't want to lynch Shingo.

3)If Zach flips scum, then we can push onto any one that defended/tried to dissuade the lynch. If Zach flips town, then we look at the people that voted on him more carefully. Vote logic isn't foolproof, but it usually helps.

Kyle L. wrote:Yeah, Eliza, I know you think I'm hot and all but can't you see I'm taken? Jeez. People these days have no morals.

I just skimmed through everything so I don't know if I missed it but can I get an example of an "Otoshi filler post"?

Otoshi F. wrote:Victor nobody is the mime, but Zachary said who would want to get lynched day 1 and I said the mime, it was a joke though

Oh yeah, about fillering, I do it a lot in forum Mafia. however I do it because I come online to check posts and don't see anything to comment on, so I just post so nobody is like,
OH MA GAWD OTOSHI (I think that's my name) CAME ONLINE QND DIDNT PSOT OBVIOUS SCUM
LYNCH OTOSHI LYNCH OTOSHI WHQT A LURKER

One post was him saying it was a 50% chance to lynch scum in response to my first post. One was suggesting to lynch an inactive with no indication of which inactive he'd want to lynch. Another was saying "Yeah I like the hypo idea, sounds interesting" (paraphrasing of course). The rest, aside from his reaction to my latest post, was all random out of game stuff.

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I'm for lynching Zach or Otoshi today. Zach's defensiveness is warranted yes, but I think he's overreacting. Otoshi is fillering like mad, as well as trying to get the lynch off of Zach.

On the other hand, it seems like everyone's just commenting on that very fact and watching to see if Zach continues to squirm.

If we do end up lynching Zach, his alignment will actually give us decent information, though.

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Initial posts are often filler, and unavoidable. They do provide for good conversation starters, even if people want to bring up day 1 filler on day 4+.

That said, the quicklynch onto Zach from Kiyo & Victor, in my opinion, is just a way to see who, if anyone, would jump on the bandwagon, or see who, if anyone, would defend him (regardless of avatar). Good way to see possible teams, or if Kiyo & Victor are a scum team they could try and locate the 2nd scum team (Assuming they hit randomly).

I like Kyle for the Hypo idea, seems like a good idea. And navigating through inspect claims is always fun.

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What is this rand lynch city?

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i am here