Search found 109 matches for Kezoki Q.

What plans? The initial lynch target was you agatha, so all 3 of us were softing you, but Natchi just lynched warden and we were waiting for Brendan to come online to hammer but you helped, so thank you xD

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/me high fives Warden for being scummy af on lylo

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Nope I asked aj about it this morning. We Won. GG.

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/me high fives Ms. Mizuho N.

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Lynch Warden kisses all around

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Natchi F. wrote:
Kezoki Q. wrote:Actually yes, like Warden said LYLO will draw out the mafia and make them more likely to participate. This is why Warden and Mizuho seem more like town right now, and Brendan and Agatha seem more like mafia.

I honestly don't understand the logic behind this. Why the hell would town not begin posting more at LyLo, given it's their last chance? Also, why didn't you include me in this list?
(Here, we've got some further evidence for Kezoki+Warden).

As much as I disagree with your reads today, (Saying Wakana is the only Clear person while I am certain he is scum), I still believe that you are town, this is why I didn't include you.

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Actually yes, like Warden said LYLO will draw out the mafia and make them more likely to participate. This is why Warden and Mizuho seem more like town right now, and Brendan and Agatha seem more like mafia.

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Warden H. wrote: I really feel Mizuno is town now. At first her posts are very easy to imitate as scum, but after thinking about her posts I find it hard to see it coming from mafia.

Weren't you saying the exact opposite yesterday?

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I just checked back, it was agatha who did that. (the last part)

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Natchi, you never pointed out why I was scum, you seem to be using PoE to get your scum team, which I think is a bad idea at LYLO. Plus, Wakana does bring up a point, you completely switched your views on Brendan. I still believe you are town, but you are being led to change your opinions really fast.
As for myself, I have already explained multiple times why I did not lynch agatha, and it turned out really well for town and she became active. And seeing your comments Natchi, this seems like the only reason you're accusing me; you bring it up in every scumteam combination. If we were mafia partners, do you really think I'd lynch her twice and switch just before the deadline twice (once because you asked me to)? It was just pure coincidence.
Unrelated, someone did ask what bussing meant earlier, legit question, or trying to divert attention and seem like a new guy?

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Mizuho N. wrote:I did say I was gonna return the favour but I just realised I already commented/analysed most of your posts lol. But this one I haven't done and I really wanted to talk about this when I wanted to explain why Natchi + Brendan + Nicolai could be viable.

Mizuho N. wrote:
I believe we need to parse the array so we can append what they have done good too so then we can assign names to a Town variable or Scum variable. So for example although she has done some scummy stuff, she doesnt look like a scummy person to me because she also has done towny stuff.

Also i would appreciate if you bolded the programming key terms, coz we are cool kids ya know?

pshh, you didn't even try on those. It may be pragma-tic to stop wasting our time and energy on these. Also, what's the point of bolding the terms? If I do so, it ruins the fun! Else, if I make strange grammatical errors or use hyphens, you get to look at them after being giving clues. While this is fun, I say it would be best to terminate this conversation.

This post looks rather....normal....right? Well it did seem like that to me at first but after thinking about it I noticed something strange. Pay attention to the mood of each sentence. "pshh, you didn't even try on those." seems like a friendly sort of rivalry thing so it would seem like it sets a friendly mood right? but then the next sentence goes like "It may be pragma-tic to stop wasting our time and energy on these" which is much more of a serious and strict mood. These moods weave in and out throughout the post. Now you might be wondering, what does that have to do with him being scum? Especially with Nicolai and Brendan? Well if there are confused/contradicting moods then it is inferred that Natchi has a mental disorder..... Or the most likely reason is that he is worried. But why would he be worried? Well Brendan and Nicolai at the time were the most suspected for being scum... So he could have been worried about them being lynched...

It might be that I am overthinking this slightly (I mean seriously I sorta just brought psychology into this lol) and misinterpreted the moods. But the post felt really strange after reading it several times. Also if you are wondering how on earth I could tell the moods. Its coz I have this thing where I can sorta tell the mood of someone by what they type. They normally are accurate but sometimes I do get it wrong so I dont know.[/quote]

Slightly? Seriously? This is completely unnecessary, and you're reading waaay too much into it.

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Brendan T. wrote:Just going to quickly post my updated readlist with no neutrals because neutral reads don't help very much right now and I have to go soon.

Kezoki - town
Wakana - town
Natchi - town
Warden - scum
Mizuho - scum
Agatha - scum

Ordered from least to most scummy:
Natchi
Kezoki
Wakana
Mizuho
Warden
Agatha

I still find Agatha to be the scummiest. I haven't been able to make much sense of her scumreads, and it seems like she's being purposely vague.

Interesting, the first person to mention both Mizuho and Warden as scum. I think this is pretty far fetched but still a possibility.

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Warden , Wakana... you can't afford to be away on LYLO. Please contribute some more, so we can have at least one full day to discuss the lynch.

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Natchi F. wrote:So this post did delete halfway through, causing me to cry in a prone position for approximately 7 hours.
Um... anyways. On to Kezoki! Here comes the bulk of the posts.
*cracks knuckles*

Kezoki Q. wrote:Like I said Natchi, I'd rather have one less inactive townie than just sit and wait for them to answer. They just ruin the fun of the game.

He explains his reasoning for lynching the inactives; valid reasoning here, in my opinion. However, it could also be a scum's convenient excuse.

Kezoki Q. wrote:Yes, and coming online once a week to post your reads without explaining your absence isn't scummy at all. I don't have to defend myself, while me natchi and mizuho were arguing over who to lynch you said absolutely nothing.

Kezoki gets fairly defensive here, although I understand why. There was a bit of miscommunication that cause this, but this is one of the few (perhaps even the only) time that Kezoki loses his cool, interestingly enough.

Kezoki Q. wrote:I never said Inactive = scummy. I said inactive = not helping the progress of the game, therefore inactive = useless. You mean to tell me losing Jenina was a huge loss for town? No. In fact I'll go ahead and say it was still a win, since it narrowed down the field to help find mafia, and got people like you to start talking. So me lynching her was not a bad idea at all.

Kezoki further justifies his lynch on Jenina, correctly stating that Jenina was completely and utterly useless (/me still rages) and that getting her lynched may have actually helped town, as it narrowed down the pool of who could be scum. It was a mislynch that did bring us closer to LyLo, though, so it's interesting that he didn't really mention the negatives of the lynch (perhaps because others already did).

I do not believe there were any negatives to lynching Jenina, since all she did was irritate us with that post :p

Kezoki Q. wrote:I didn't say your reads were nonsense, you just called me scummy for being active and lynching people, that's what I thought was weird.

Kezoki further elaborates on why he was defensive and why he thought the reads made no sense.

Kezoki Q. wrote:Let me just justify my lynch with some new arguments. Agatha comes on the game twice, the first time she says this
Agatha A. wrote:hmm... forgot my name

which is, of course, useless filler. The second time she comes on, a week later, she says she forgot about the game, asks for a summary, and disappears once more.
Agatha A. wrote:I'm so sorry! I forgot about the game... I knew I was forgetting something but I couldn't remember what... can someone give me a summary of what happened?

The fact that Agatha did this could show us that Agatha wants us to think that she is town and wants to be co-operative, but clearly she isnt as she has been a while.

Here he explains his lynch on Agatha; due to the fact that she was also being useless and not helpful, while trying to appear like she was attempting to help.

Kezoki Q. wrote:Unlynch Agatha Lynch Kenzo I know, I know I'm switching lynches way too much but I believe the explanation is clear here: Kenzo has been lurking too much, and i decided to give agatha one more chance to prove she can be active. (I am a generous god)

Kezoki switches his vote at this point to give Agatha a chance to talk and continues with his trend of lynching an inactive; sadly, this strategy didn't work yet again (and it never worked, sadly >_>).

Kezoki Q. wrote:Alright Agatha, you said to give you a day and you can participate, anything to note? Is anyone scummy? Is anyone seeming like town? Anything at all to get the conversation going? These questions are for everyone else as well, we have already lost 2 people just because they were inactive, any reads on whoever could help right now. I'll start :
-I find Mizuho and Warden to be town-sided, because they are actively progressing towards a good scumhunting method. As seen in the PoE posts, if Mizuho was scum he wouldn't spend his time trying to explain why PoE is a bad strategy, he would have just nodded and agreed and watched the townies fall :p Same for Warden, any idea right now is a welcome idea, though I personally wouldn't use PoE.
-Osashi : Scummy. She did post a read-list, but it was pretty much useless since literally everyone was either town, or leaning town in her opinion. IMO, she's trying to get on everyone's good side, which is a typical mafia thing to do.
-Wakana: Competely Neutral. She (He?) seems to alternate between posting some good, useful posts and then posting a useless, filler-y one.
-Natchi: Town. I don't get why I've seen many posts saying that natchi is scummy, I haven't seen him (her?) doing anything sketchy. As far as I'm concerned he pointed out the scummiest post on day 1, and lynched accordingly, and even tho Jenina flipped town, that was more of a town move than a scummy move.
-Agatha: Scum until she proves otherwise. Managed to escape being lynched twice now because we wanted to give her a chance. It's do or die time, either be active and share some of your ideas, or you'll be lynched.
-Nicolai - Brendan: Please be active. I'm begging
So according to me the scum team would be : Osashi - Agatha - Nicolai/Brendan
Therefore
Lynch Osashi
Thank you for your time
Also note to the mod : Update Alive/Dead list

I commented previously that it was fairly OMGUSsy, and I think it still is. He comments that Warden, Mizuho, and I are all town, and provides a neutral read on Wakana due to her ranging from filler to useful posts. Scumread on Agatha because she hadn't been very useful at this point, although she definitely started contributing later.

My Lynch on Osashi was for 3 reasons. Me thinking she was trying to get on everyone's good side, me being the lynch target if no one lynched, and having midterms during the week and not being sure about being able to come online.

Kezoki Q. wrote:
Osashi D. wrote:
Kezoki Q. wrote:Yay! Brendan! 1 more to go I think so we can get a full game!
Am gonna state a few things:
1-@Brendan : Did Kenzo even talk at all before he was lynched? How did you find him scummy if he didn't?
2-@Mizuho : Reading someone as neutral =/= reading someone as scum, she only added me and Natchi as neutral so her list wouldn't be all town. My point still stands on Osashi.
3-@Agatha : Bussing is going against your own scum partner.
4-@Mizuho Again: Might wanna correct that last post, I think you made an error since you mentioned yourself twice.
5-@Natchi : I think I cleared things up with the agatha thing when we agreed that I had mentioned her coming online at the very beginning of the game, she thought I was being scummy because she misinterpreted me as saying she came online when she never did. I understand that you find me as being scummy. How so?
6-@Osashi, who just posted: Agatha asked for a 1 day grace period if you will, so I gave her that, and she became pretty active, whereas you on the other hand became way less active after your first read list. "Note: I think kezoki changed his mindset from inactive = useless to scummy = useless" what does that mean?

I was questioning why your shifted your attention on me rather than Agatha because in the earlier days, you seem to always be lynching the one that haven't talk at all.

Well, basically we got 0 info by lynching kenzo and jenina, and I already posted my current read-list with you being the scummiest imo. Already explained the Agatha part, and you can also read what Mizuho said.

Explains his lynch on Osashi, saying that lynching inactives won't really work at this point and that he's just realized that. He then says that we'll be able to get more info from lynching someone else, and he believes Osashi is scummy (is this motivated by the fact that she lynched him? We may never know.)

Kezoki Q. wrote:
Osashi D. wrote:
Kezoki Q. wrote:
Osashi D. wrote:
Kezoki Q. wrote:Yay! Brendan! 1 more to go I think so we can get a full game!
Am gonna state a few things:
1-@Brendan : Did Kenzo even talk at all before he was lynched? How did you find him scummy if he didn't?
2-@Mizuho : Reading someone as neutral =/= reading someone as scum, she only added me and Natchi as neutral so her list wouldn't be all town. My point still stands on Osashi.
3-@Agatha : Bussing is going against your own scum partner.
4-@Mizuho Again: Might wanna correct that last post, I think you made an error since you mentioned yourself twice.
5-@Natchi : I think I cleared things up with the agatha thing when we agreed that I had mentioned her coming online at the very beginning of the game, she thought I was being scummy because she misinterpreted me as saying she came online when she never did. I understand that you find me as being scummy. How so?
6-@Osashi, who just posted: Agatha asked for a 1 day grace period if you will, so I gave her that, and she became pretty active, whereas you on the other hand became way less active after your first read list. "Note: I think kezoki changed his mindset from inactive = useless to scummy = useless" what does that mean?

I was questioning why your shifted your attention on me rather than Agatha because in the earlier days, you seem to always be lynching the one that haven't talk at all.

Well, basically we got 0 info by lynching kenzo and jenina, and I already posted my current read-list with you being the scummiest imo. Already explained the Agatha part, and you can also read what Mizuho said.

Can I ask why you are so quick to lynch?

I mean Day 2 you lynch agatha right off the bat and day 3 you also lynched me pretty early.

Actually my lynch on you was for personal reasons, I thought I'd have limited times to check the game this week, due to midterms, and I thought I should lynch the person I find scummiest in case I don't get on again. The agatha lynch was fast because I was sure we were going to lynch her until she came on later.

Further explains his lynches at this point.

Kezoki Q. wrote:
Osashi D. wrote:

Kezoki Q as Leaning Scum: I must admit that some of my posts regarding Kezoki early on is bias. First of all, I really wanted to keep playing in this game so I kind panicked that he lynched me. However, it is not totally due to personal feelings as I already said that he may be scum during Day 2 which was not influenced by panicking. His posts early on were scummy to me. He quickly changed his mind when lynching and had a mindset of inactive = scummy. This can be seen as lynch-happy because he was reckless to make decisions, especially when he says things like "i don't care if this is scummy af but I have my reasons". The fact that he responded to my first read list with sarcasm gives of a mafia feel to me. Also when I questioned he lynch, he would say things like "Do you have a better idea?" which to me gives off a feeling that he is lynch-happy. He even admitted that he lynched me early because he thought he wouldn't have enough time to post, which to me, implies that he is afraid of me lynching him first. Kezoki also mentions the inactives often during the end of this day, maybe he is just trying to sway attention?

I'll reply to this part and we can decide what to do then. Lynch-Happy is not a bad thing. Lynch-Happy = agressive, and to be honest I am always aggressive, whether as town or mafia. That's just how I play. You can't just say hey this guys wants to lynch people so he's obviously scum, the objective of this game is to find out who the mafia is, people crack under pressure, and the best way to pressure them is to lynch them.
I did not respond to your first list with sarcasm, I legit found a hole in it, and explained my point. And yes, I stand on my decision to call out the inactives. Guilty until proven innocent IMO, and the more you stay away from the game during important moments, the guiltier you are.

Explains that lynch-happy does not necessarily mean aggressive, and says something similar to Agatha "I am always aggressive": basically referring to his playstyle out of psanon, which we can't know whatsoever. He also encourages activity in an underhanded way in this post.

Kezoki Q. wrote:
Agatha A. wrote:Knowing I am probably next, it doesn't really matter if I look a bit more scummy anymore. Though I do want to ask you all one thing, can you PLEASE just stop calling me scummy because I had forgotten about the game? PLEASE, it's really annoying to be called scummy for starting to try to help after being forgetful about the game for a bit and then people coming with such excuses for why they think I'm scummy. Come with something legit, please. Come with something about what I said, not about what I DIDN'T say. And the thing with not being interested, while I could of course lie, after getting my role pm I was kind of disappointed because I wouldn't get to make plans to kill everyone in the game, though meanwhile this game has gotten interesting for me. With that said.
lynch kezoki q.

So you decided to lynch me out of nowhere, without explaining why?
Osashi please stay for a bit, we should really make a decision.

Asks for Osashi to wait so that they can lynch someone; sadly, this does not end up working out.

Kezoki Q. wrote:Well basically now I can no longer remove my Osashi lynch because I would be lynched then... I'm not even sure who is scum anymore, but I can't afford to change my lynch :/

The point he brings up here is actually the fault of all of us; we all also did force him into this situation, not just Agatha, and as a result did get Osashi lynched.

Kezoki Q. wrote:I don't think so.
And guys we're doing this all wrong, we know our timezones are different yet no one posts for the whole 3 days, we wait until it's a few hours before deadline and start throwing accusations, knowing full well we won't be able to discuss it properly. We filled 4 pages in a few hours.

Yeah, this is a serious problem. We all need to be active and post as much as possible (yes, I know i'm failing at this, but i'll try harder, alright?)

Kezoki Q. wrote:Change of plans I will be able to post for the next couple of hours, I'd really like to hear from Nicolai now that he's been subbed. And I'd like to say that brendan somehow found kenzo to be scummy when kenzo hadn't posted a single thing (I think). He also claimed to have read the whole thing and then had some awkward posts indicating he had no idea who was lynched. This is why I'm for the Brendan lynch, but I've been accused of being too lynch-happy so I'll wait until I hear from Mizuho and Warden, who I trust the most, from Nicolai who hasn't had a single post and obviously from Brendan to explain this particular point.

Kezoki was one of the most aggressive towards Brendan, not sure why. I think I already explained why those posts of Brendan's weren't scummy before, not gonna comment on them again.

Kezoki Q. wrote:New Read List since I haven't done one in a while:
Brendan - Scum: "Just from skimming Im finding Kenzo as the scummiest. More opinions to come." This was said knowing that kenzo never said anything.

Wakana - Scum: No posts in a while. And even then most of the posts were either filler, or saying something that was already said by someone else. "So somebody want to sum it up for me please" this was posted 10 min before the deadline, knowing full well no one could sum up 4 whole pages in less than 10 min, I'd say he just said this to make it seem like he tried to participate in the lynch.

Natchi - Town: Few posts, but meaningful, he's guiding the town in the right direction, I'd trust him to lead the next lynch.

Mizuho - Town: Towniest player since the beginning of the game, has made some accusations in the last few days, but has also defended people, which makes me believe he is town just because he's taking his time to see both sides of any argument. Calm and fair.

Warden - Town: Seems to be the only person to think Mizuho (or Mizuno, call her whatever I don't care xD) is scummy, but he does bring up some interesting points, only problem with him is that he hasn't posted at all when we were pressured to lynch, but it could be justified. Hoping from some more posts from you, since they've been helpful so far. I especially want to know why you think Wakana is town, when he is one of my prime suspects.

Agatha - Neutral: My only neutral read as I don't even know what to think about her (yes, her). After I gave her a chance, she convinced me with a pretty good read list and some good posts that she was town, that was until just before the last deadline, where she got me confused by accusing people left and right, posting some stuff I didn't understand, and jumping on Mizuho (I think), seeing as there are some scummier players, I'm deeming her as neutral.

Nicolai - Scum: 2 users have now been using the account, not one single post...

TLDR : Scum Team : Brendan - Wakana - Nicolai

I've already covered Brendan. For Wakana, he notes her inactivity and her fillery posts for her last couple (although the most recent ones weren't very fillery, but a bit defensive). States that Mizuho is towny due to neutrality, something i'd agree with. The read on Warden is interesting; he sticks with his idea that Warden has been consistently contributing well to the town, and also townreads him. Neutral read on Agatha because she's been pro-town after a scummy start, I think.

Kezoki Q. wrote:I don't think warden and Mizuho are together, since Warden keeps getting his name wrong xD.

Filler here, also something I don't think is very valid. I think they aren't on a scumteam solely because of how against each other they were. Then again, I could be wrong.

This was a joke. Sheesh. You get to do lame programming jokes and I don't get to say some stuff once in a while? :p

Kezoki Q. wrote:So I gathered some stuff to help us out, the scum teams according to every user. This should be pretty helpful once we lynch a mafia:
Warden: Mizuho - Nicolai - Brendan
Mizuho: Brendan - Warden - Nicolai
Brendan: Agatha - Natchi - Nicolai
Kezoki: Brendan - Wakana - Nicolai
Natchi: Brendan - Nicolai - Wakana
Agatha: Nicolai - Kezoki - Mizuho
Wakana: ???
Nicolai: ???

Totals:
-6 People think that Nicolai is scum. That is everyone who already posted
-4 People think Brendan is scum. That is everyone but himself and Agatha
-2 People think Mizuho is scum (Agatha + Warden)
-2 people think Wakana is scum (Kezoki + Natchi)
-1 person thinks Warden is scum (Mizuho)
-1 person thinks Kezoki is scum (Agatha)
-1 person thinks Agatha is scum (Brendan)
-1 person thinks Natchi is scum (Brendan)

Basically, everyone is suspected by atleast someone, I want to urge Wakana and Nicolai to post, especially Nicolai.

I don't think this is a good method to use as a lynch; if we do this, we're going to lynch town almost every time.

And we did, every single time...

Kezoki Q. wrote:Well we seriously lost this game because of the amount of inactivity gdi. Natchi Nicolai would have been lynched anyway, there's no such thing as a hammer in this game. Lynches only occur at deadline

This seems overly... not sure what the word I want to say is. Dramatic? Defeated? This just comes across as scummy to me.

You can't deny the fact that had the 3 people that were lynched for being inactive participated, we wouldn't be in this situation. LYLO means we have to do what we couldn't do on any day, lynch the mafia. Dramatic and defeated? Maybe, but they are the reason we are down to 4-3

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Agatha A. wrote:Tyvm natchi, you made me realise something. Though first: Dammit people why do you always have to misinterpretate my posts...
I will explain this further when I get on my computer.

As to what I realized, mizuho stays neutral. Neutral. Might seem towny but think about it, if you're mafia and can't place yourself into the view of a towny, what would be the best thing to do? Not lurking, not watching things from a mafia perspective, It's watching things from a neutral perspective. That's easier to act out.

Agatha A. wrote:Oh right, forgot about this, mizuho seems a bit too perfect. A mafia is more likely to act extremely towny than an actual towny on forums mafia, they will think out what they say a lot more, thus being perfect towny way more. Doesn't mean mizuho is scum, but it is important to keep in mind.

This is kinda confusing. What exactly is your position on Mizuho? You're saying a mafia will contribute more to the town than a townie in forum mafia? :/

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I'll just add that I'm still leaning on Brendan - Wakana as a scum team, but I have seriously no idea who the third one is. Mizuho has been a town leader, Warden is posting great stuff, if Natchi turns out to be mafia I'd give him a medal just for dedication. And ever since Agatha became active she has seemed really pro-town too.