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Game 31: Separated Scum

Lol, I'm the only town to get points my game. :p
by Hiroki M.
on Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:58 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Nicolette deserves better. ;~;
by Hiroki M.
on Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:58 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Tbh, deserved for the plays most of town made.
by Hiroki M.
on Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:57 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

On N3, I was thinking of Tequea (or howtospell) and O.O. as possibe scumreads. Never suspected Yuzo. Titus made himself look hella scummy with his poor defense and Marilyn, while a townread, was #MrsTunnel. I may have goofed up in lylo but idk if I would have let O.O. get as far as he did. Died before I could go back and re-read him and didn't bother after that since AJ told me he was scum.

The three biggest things that hurt my soul was when Marilyn immediately calls O.O. town, saying he can't be mafia cause he went back and made 3 big posts in a row after the Yuzo lynch. Then Titus drops his scumread on O.O. for lynching Yuzo when O.O. was trying to get Marilyn in the end and wanted to switch. Didn't even about if he had inspected Yuzo or not. And then Marilyn calls Titus scummy for his late minute Yuzo lynch and not O.O. who started it. Titus wanted to save himself from lynch, something you should understand. Why would you not scumread O.O. more for doing the same thing? #MrsTunnel.

Either way, GG O.O. way to clutch.

Also, yeah, Lila, what did I do wrong? o-o

Side note, Town MVP was by far Nicolette. But since O.O. managed to pull out a win, he deserves it more.
by Hiroki M.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:46 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

... No words can describe how annoyed I am at Lila's incompetence.

#BahPost

#ThoughtYouWereQT
by Hiroki M.
on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:20 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

we UL Lila as possible vig. I am keeping lynch on Linda for now. We find a new lynch, but if there is a vig CC and Lila is scum claiming vig, then real vig shoot her tonight, don't CC.
by Hiroki M.
on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:50 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Vig do not CC
by Hiroki M.
on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:49 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Linda>Lila>Titus/Teaque>Yuzu>Marilyn>O.O>Nicolette.

Updated list to include Marilyn. Even though I have a situational scumread on her with Titus, I still feel like on her own she is far more towny than scummy, so I put her in the town side >true neutral Yuzu.

Also, I'm hoping to see more thoughts on the possible Linda x Lila read while we wait for him to reply. ("He" As I am pretty sure Linda is actually still a male).
by Hiroki M.
on Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:26 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Hi. Just to respond to Marilyn. Says I am pissing them off for not being active, meanwhile I have been online since I made my first post to work on this. It may have been a few (10) hours, but I've been up all night thinking this post over. Here you go~ JK I was gone way longer than I should have been and even did come back Saturday only to catch up and not post. Your anger was justified.

Titus- Thinking like town, but I agree with what I saw in Nicolette's initial read of him. When I read his initial post
Titus wrote:Well here's what I think. I usually like to scumhunt by putting myself in the mafia's shoes. So here goes: I doubt mafia really wants to lynch anyone day 1. Let's put it this way - it hurts more for them to lose a member than for town to lose a townie (unless vig). So I speculate that they might not lynch at all, or lynch someone that doesn't have plurality. Having said that, I will

She did exactly what you said and lynched someone who didn't have plur. And on such a stupid reason, no less. This felt like it was exactly the type of thing that you would scumread. You explained she didn't trip a scumtell
Titus wrote:Mafias are reluctant to lynch because their lynch are riskier. If anything, Claudina's scummy behavior was "lynching for no reason despite saying it herself that lynches day 1 are bullshit". She never tripped any of my said scumtell. If she for example, said, I find Titus to be scummy because of these reasons YET do not lynch, now THAT's scummy. She did the opposite: lynching without saying why I am scummy. If you read my posts carefully, that is the total opposite of my scumtell.

Can you please show me where in your posts I need to read to see what your scumtell is? Cause unless I missed it, I never saw anything that indicated that this was a scumtell. To me, it felt like a fabricated reason to not lynch Claudina when she so clearly looked scummy (but flipped town). Hell, she looked so scummy the vig even shot her thinking she was. So, I don't see how you thought she wasn't scummy. Then, right after Nicolette brings this point up: Nic
Nicolette wrote:4+5) i feel like marilyn justified herself well enough on unlynching teaque, but that's just me. the fact still stands that you weren't really pushing the marilyn lynch either; you just let your vote stay without commenting much on it and let the plur on amelia go through.

You make a point of re-lynching on Marilyn D2. If you really still scumread her, it would have made more sense to lynch at the start of the day. You endeded D1 with a scumread on her, N1 happened and you cone into D2 without scumreading her until Nicolette reminds you, then you put a lynch on her (Lila has plur at this point, meaning as scum, it would be safe for you to lynch a partner (marilyn) without putting plur on her. How would you know she was scum? Well, you said yourself:
Titus wrote:Another scumtell is a sudden shift of reads. If mafia lynched someone, they might inspect that person, which would reveal whether they are actually mafia or town. Thus, if someone scumreads a person and just mysteriously backs off, it could be worth looking into. This is why a read-list is super important.
. My theory is, you, as scum, read Marilyn D1 and lynched her at a time when Amelia had plur. You inspected her N1 and found her as your partner and didn't bother to lynch her D2 until Nicolette brought up that you didn't and so you used a BS reason to put a lynch back on her (with Lila having plur).

Tl:DR- Possible partners Titus (scumread) with Marilyn (scumread)

Marilyn- This is honestly less so a huge scumread on you as it is reasons it would support my theory that you would be scum with Titus. This read is mostly because of the Titus conclusion I drew, as the only thing I found scummy about you was the fact that made your UL on Teaque (who did not have plur) for no reason (You said he didnt post, but he did. You missed his post, though and thought he was still inactive) and you didn't re-lynch anyone. You explained it as waiting to see what wagons pop up, but you could have done that without ULing and allowing plur to sit wherever.

Without this Titus theory, though, I would townread you. It's mostly just a gut thing, but you have seemed mostly townie to me throughout D2 posts. And your anger at my lack of post feels like a townie thing to do.

This scumpair is possible, but unlikely. Titus could still be scum without Marilyn, so I keep my scumread on him. Neutral read on Marilyn. .

Instead, I have a much higher scumread on one Mr. Linda G. (Thought you looked like a male. On further inspection, you are a female but w/e).

Linda-
Titus wrote:Another scumtell is a sudden shift of reads. If mafia lynched someone, they might inspect that person, which would reveal whether they are actually mafia or town. Thus, if someone scumreads a person and just mysteriously backs off, it could be worth looking into. This is why a read-list is super important.

Meanwhile, linda is the only lynch left on Lila by D1 end. D2 starts and Lila and O.O both make a slip about not knowing mafia set-up.
Linda wrote:1) "What happened to your crusade against Lila C.?"
it was lila z not lila c. now that i have rechecked the player list, i realize i mistook the current lila as someone much prettier, and so i'm confident in my position as the prettiest avatar in game.
2) "Seriously?"
yes. no more questions about the crusade at this time please
3) "But she also slipped, not knowing the mafia don't know each other, isn't that why you're lynching O O.?"
It is, but that happened while I was typing this up, and lila c actually had some good posts yesterday, as compared to O O. who didn't do much of anything, and is now trying to show that he does know things, by correcting her. Literally, his entire D1 was confirm, rand lynch, agree + change lynch. Coming out strong D2 isn't helping O O.'s case, whereas Lila's early D2 posts are an actual continuation of a D1 topic.

Linda wrote:Lila - Been doing good things by keeping the chat alive, and isn't as cute as I am.

His who reason to lynch Lila was a "crusade" based on looks and then D2 comes by and he suddenly ends that crusade to lynch O.O for his slip, while Lila made a bigger one. This fits so much better as a sudden shift of reads. He says that Lila made good posts D1 and that O.O didn't and tells her to keep it up, but as several people pointed out, Lila's D1 posts were pretty useless and haven't gotten better. Meanwhile, Linda's not made an argument since Lila got plur. As O.O pointed out, he's been on Saturday and current last visit is listed as: Last visit : Today at 6:41 am. And so, I have a Scumread on Linda.

Scumread on Lila- Not going to sugarcoat it, I mostly just agree with the current reasons for scumreads on her. A bad slip, lack of good posts, and again, it suits my theory that she and Linda are potential partners. Unlike Marilyn, though, she has no town feelings for me outside of this theory. Sorry to say it, since she's QT af.

For now, Neutral (leaning town) read on O.O. I find nothing overly scummy about him and his posts seem more towny to me than scum. I do, however, need to go back and re-read his stuff again to draw a much harder conclusion.

Nicolette is townread and my strongest one at that. Has made amazing posts since her return and many thought-provoking arguments that helped me to place my scumreads on Linda and Titus.

Neutral Yuzo Obvious reasons.

Neutral (leaning scum) Teaque. Solid posts but seems inconsistent to me. I want to take the time to analyze his posts more tomorrow, but I am rushing this out atm so that I can go to bed. Possible that his lynch on Lila is that he didn't inspect her last night and so is unaware that she is scum with Linda. Linda could know Lila, but Lila doesn't know partners and Teaque could just not know Linda/Lila and making blind reads on them. As a justification to why he could be scum with them.

For now, I view mafia as Linda>Lila>Titus/Teaque>Yuzu>O.O>Nicolette. I am fine with the Lila lynch, and suggest Linda/Teaque as possible vig shots tonight based on Lila's flip (if she is lynched as of this moment).
Lynch Linda A scumread and I don't want to put too much on Lila before she has a chance to defend herself, scummy or not.

Another thought I had. Mafia have the ability to inspect, so it's possible that if they inspect a town player, they will try to make that townie look scummy and lynch them as a misslynch. It gives them a safe lynch and avoids partners. They have options outside of not pluring players, so be aware of that.


by Hiroki M.
on Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:03 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Long post incoming. Had lots of interesting thoughts based on interactions.
by Hiroki M.
on Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:17 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Won't be super active until Saturday when I return from vacation (as you've seen since my last post). Anyway, yes, vig should not claim unless hammer is about to fall on them. The purpose of picking 2 targets for vig to kill each night is that in case we name the vig as our wanted shot that night, they would have a backup without drawing suspicion that they are our vig. One other thing. If we get to the point where we still have 2-3 scum and very few townies (approaching late game) and no successful scum deaths, vig should kinda assume scum has too much town control and shoot whoever tf you want.
by Hiroki M.
on Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:41 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Hey, Lila, that's a QT af avatar there. What you say we get some drinks after this game, bb? I'll lynch scum for you RQ and then we're free.

Anyway, I am assuming the "traitors" are the scum we are looking for.

1 Traitor Roleblocker Cop, 1 Traitor 1-Shot Vigilante Cop, 1 Traitor Cop

We have a vig, and that's going to be the only source of NKs unless scum uses up their kill. It would be interesting if we made up a list of 2 players for our vig to shoot each night and let them pick who to kill. For now, too little talking to properly plan that- which is to say, no reads atm so no scumreads.

So, this is just cause of your shitty RSV lynch. Lynch Marilyn M. Sad. You're kinda cute, too. But Lila is cuter. o3o
by Hiroki M.
on Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:26 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

GOD DAMMIT
by Hiroki M.
on Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:19 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

There seems to be a severe lack of QTs in this thread. Allow me to help ya'll. (I hope).
by Hiroki M.
on Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:19 pm
 
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