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Game 31: Separated Scum

Ed S.- 0 points
Being a cause of a town death (voting for a mislynch or incorrect vigilante shot): -2 x 7

>x7
by Marilyn M.
on Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:07 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

this game, for most of town, was quite pointless
by Marilyn M.
on Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:04 pm
 
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No you are a girl
by Marilyn M.
on Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:21 am
 
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Oh yeah, according to bulbapedia I only like things smaller than 2 ft

SCREW YOU ALL YOU ARE ALL TO TALL FOR ME
by Marilyn M.
on Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:58 am
 
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(I didn't think his plurshift was scummy, so I don't think that was me)

But that post right there, if one of me/tq/Titus/Yuzo were killed n2, it would have turned so differently. <3 hiroki
by Marilyn M.
on Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:57 am
 
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I DIDNT MEAN YOU DID NONE TITUS PLEASE DONT BE SALTY <3333333
I just meant you hadn't don't it on day 4
by Marilyn M.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:23 pm
 
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Serious hats off to O.O

I could be an asshole and say I called it day 2, but, it was a bad read as it was ehh
by Marilyn M.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:22 pm
 
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wow
I'm literally SO CONFUSED. whoever is scum deserves a serious pat on the back. I have so many thoughts, mainly wtf, that are whirling through my head and Idk what to do
I'm just going to go with what my gut is telling me to do
lynch O.O
by Marilyn M.
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:14 am
 
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Shit no
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:01 pm
 
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I'm not letting you get the final post so I'm posting
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:00 pm
 
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Well, deadline is in an hour and AJ said he wasn't extending so, I'm keeping my lynch because nobody has said anything to convince me otherwise. Au revoir
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:03 pm
 
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I agree that an extend would be good. It just makes the game boring if Titus is lynched because only me and O.O came online

O.O, if you were forced to lynch within 30 seconds of reading this, who would you place your vote on?
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:43 am
 
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Filler? Really? I get that I fillered as much as you and I accused you of it, but I don't think it's a reason for me to be lynched, just as you didn't see it as a reason for you to be lynched.
Ignoring/skirting around questions: The only thing Incan think if is the question Titus asked me. I didn't see him asking for the more detailed answer, and when you brought it up I answered. If you can name other examples of this, that would be great
Not done much aside from scumhunt and defend myself
What else do you want me to do? That's literally the 2 things you do in mafia. I've made multiple posts explaining why Titus should be lynched. I did them all on titus because I feel he is the best lynch, so I should push him ahead of others
The thing with TQ+Titus is similar to Titus' thing with him and me. I wasn't sure which was scum. I felt it was more likely that Titus was scum, but nobody was lynching them, so I lynched Teaque, who I also thought could have been scum

Conclusion: most things I have done bad, Titus had done worse

by Marilyn M.
on Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:50 am
 
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1) Then why are you referring to it on day 3? I'm bringing it up because you brought it up. the bolded part is me questioning why you didnt havea miller theory on yourself. Linda, teh flipped scum, townread you, and provided you are town, you would know it wasnt because you were scum. Why make a miller theory on me but have no belief that you are the miller?

2) sorry i didnt realise your backspace didnt work, that explains it
posting style? really? You want me to playermeta you in anon? it was forced

3) kek

4) well thats not what you said when you replied to the post

5) I understand that. The problem is that you had me as neutral and didnt provide evidence that I am scum. If you dont know why the person you are lynching is scum, then you shouldnt be lynching them at this stage in the game. Idc if it was "temporary" or not

6) sure, why not. but at the same time, why? it just seems pointless to me

7) at the time of you unlynching me teaque had no votes on him. It was just as likely that he would lynch you

Cool <----- I was so confused why you did the sunglasses emoji until i typed Cool myself XD

This is the problem. YOU DONT SCUMREAD ANYBODY IN THE GAME. You dont think any of us are scum? It's just plain stupid at this point that you are alive

9) then lynch someone that isnt Teaque. Convince people to not lynch teaque. Take the reigns and do something

10) great. three attempts at scumhunting in 3 days
I think that sentence sums it up really

by Marilyn M.
on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:00 pm
 
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Correction: Linda thought I was quite scummy day 2. So your miller theory is worse
by Marilyn M.
on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:54 am
 
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Titus V. wrote:Hit me with your best shot... Fire away...

The majority of today will probably be me vs Marilyn. I'm ready.


One last thing
You really have done next to no scumhunting of your own. You are supposed to be hitting others with your best shot, whilst stopping yourself from being shot

Someone has to start us off, so here we go
Lynch Titus V.
by Marilyn M.
on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:41 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I feel so fancy putting in a post title kek

The forum puts quotes in order of appearance in the thread, if that makes sense, so you'll have to just read 4 quotes then see what i say.

Linda G. wrote:More good stuff from Titus, albeit sarcastically and in a manner that wasn't helpful at all. So like, the content was good, but the timings was less so. I'll give you more points for the read list comment, and I'll post my very own read list!

O O. - See post above
Marilyn - Wasn't she the counterwagon until we lynched off an idle player? Rubs me as scum from her unlynch as well as lack of presence
Yuzo / Hiroki / Nicolette - haven't made an impression on me that I can remember. post more, make them good, make an effort.
Teaque - Made a lynch based on a read, received a defense, and altered that read. Good town play, but not good enough to receive a top two spot on my list for townies
Lila - Been doing good things by keeping the chat alive, and isn't as cute as I am.
Titus - You've never done a thing wrong in your life and you should know that.


Teaque Q. wrote:
Linda G. wrote:There's a slip by O O. to try and get town cred: Mafia Vigilante is One Shot. lynch O O. the mafia vigilante, case closed. I'll take your questions throughout the day, but I'll pre-emptively answer a few of the ones I'm expecting


Honestly, when I read that post, I had thought that O O. was softing vigilante to set up for a claim later. However, your points are very well thought out, so I'm just going to add onto them a bit and go off my own way.

O O. wrote:
Linda G. wrote:insert content here

I get the rest so explain the bolded part pls thx



Marilyn M. I very much enjoy how townie she's acting, and most of her posts seem useful and relevant. However, I feel like she's defending O O. and praising Titus too much and it's kind of raising the possibility of her being a traitor cop who found out Titus and suspects O O. of being scum partners. 50-50 w/ her.


I'd also like to let you all know that I'm going to my aunt's birthday party today, so I'll be gone for most of the day.






Hiroki M. wrote:

Marilyn- This is honestly less so a huge scumread on you as it is reasons it would support my theory that you would be scum with Titus. This read is mostly because of the Titus conclusion I drew, as the only thing I found scummy about you was the fact that made your UL on Teaque (who did not have plur) for no reason (You said he didnt post, but he did. You missed his post, though and thought he was still inactive) and you didn't re-lynch anyone. You explained it as waiting to see what wagons pop up, but you could have done that without ULing and allowing plur to sit wherever.

Without this Titus theory, though, I would townread you. It's mostly just a gut thing, but you have seemed mostly townie to me throughout D2 posts. And your anger at my lack of post feels like a townie thing to do.

This scumpair is possible, but unlikely. Titus could still be scum without Marilyn, so I keep my scumread on him. Neutral read on Marilyn. .





Titus V. wrote:
O O. wrote:Post 2: Looking through yuzo’s interactions with people.
Looking back, yuzo fillered A LOT.




I hate bringing back up the "Marilyn is the miller!" theory but I want to note something here. You theorized that Yuzo could have potentially inspected Marilyn, got her as mafia, and tried to defend her. Well, while making my reads regarding Marilyn, I also theorized that a good inspect for scum is Marilyn. That is why I brought up the "Marilyn is Miller" theory, because I sensed that many players in the game were sorta defending Marilyn, which implied that they inspected her and got her as mafia (similar to what you theorized). However, my gut tells me Marilyn is town - which means that the obvious conclusion is that Marilyn is the miller. When you think it is scummy of me to come up with that theory, reflect on your theory regarding Yuzo and Marilyn here and then reflect on my theory. It is very similar to what you have came up here, you just didn't go to the extent that I did.


Ok. The above posts were all I could find that were people townreading me. At the point where you made your miller theory, Linda was dead mafia (theory works here) Teaque was leaning town on your readslist which you made on the same day, with TQ making no posts to make him townier in between (doesnt make sense) and Hiroki was dead town (theory doesnt work here)
So, this entire miller theory you made on me, revolves around You thinking I'm town, and Linda thinking I'm town, meaning it could have been that she inspected me and got me as mafia, with the possibility that Teaque is also mafia and inspected me as mafia. First of all, no. That is a stupid thing to dedicate a paragraph to. Second of all, Linda had a much larger townread on you than she did me, so why not bring up the possiblity of you being miller too. If you were town, you would KNOW you were town, instead of just having a gutread with me. You dont want to suggest you are miller because you dont want your scumpartner (yuzo, though I doubt you knew it at this point) to think, ohshit he might be miller might not be scumpartner
This miller theory of yours is stupid, and I think my one is better tbh
Also, on the day that you were very much considering LYNCHING me, why are you talking about a theory that has me as town?

Titus V. wrote:
O O. wrote:Post 3: looking through everything once more and seeing if anything new catches my eye

Marilyn M. wrote:O O. - Certainly hasnt done much for the game, but their are better options. Neutral/Leaning scum
Linda G. - Made a large post with nice content, but in general was just pro-Titus+Lila and Anti-O (now that I say that I realise my post was mainly Anti-Lila but whatevs) Neutral
Yuzo/Nicolette -  who? - neutral
Hiroki M.- Made one good post, but apart from that, who?- Neutral, leaning town
Teaque - *tips fedora* m'townread, m'reusing joke- town
Lila - Hasnt done much to the game, and didnt know there were traitors, potentially for towncred. Scum
Titus - Is awesome, has done nothing but have good ideas in his posts, should pick me over linda- Town

What jumps out at me here is marilyn tr’ing teaque and titus for (i assume) having good posts. Given that we’ve discussed now that this is mainly a lazy town or scum thing to do (and given the activity marilyn’s had, i don’t think she’s lazy town), this looks pretty bad on her.

That's actually quite a good point. I guess you can say *cough* it's quite HYPOCRITICAL *cough* of Marilyn to do so.

Teaque Q. wrote:
Linda's still a town read, starting off extremely strong and explaining reads quite well. 35-65 scum-town
Titus is neutral town, He's extremely helpful to town, but... he never follows his advice? He asks everyone for read posts but doesn't try to start off and make one of his own.

This makes me think Teaque could potentially have investigated Linda n1, if he’s scum. Either that or he didn’t really take the time to read linda’s argument in full.
Not too sure why teaque doesn’t try and push titus for being hypocritical since (if true) that’s a fairly scummy trait.

I did intent to make a readlist, but I didn't finish it that day sadly.

Marilyn M. wrote:O.O

While I admit, I cherry picked slightly while quoting your things. But it's just the sheer number I got when I did so that startled me

I still want thoughts on this. Marilyn admits she cherrypicked to make her argument (that’s very scummy) and then says there’s a “sheer number” of filler posts when that is not the case (I believe I said that you could argue up to 4 of my posts on that day were filler). Both of those together look really bad for marilyn, imo.

I wasn't active during the end of Day 2, so I will have to go back and read again in details.


Titus V. wrote:Alright, before I post my reads, let's get the initial reactions out of the way:

YES WE GOT MAFIA

WHY DID LILA KILLED HIROKI

Seems super forced. I don’t like it.

Well, I was really happy. You have no idea how happy I was when you came online and lynched Yuzo the mafia.

Nicolette D. wrote:
(about me and marilyn) You two are my best townreads at the moment (ngl they aren't like rock solid trs or anything), and the two people that I would want to live on the farthest, especially because, in a lylo situation, you two have so much in interactions that I'll have more than enough info to make a decision between you two, though I don't think that'll happen for reasons aforementioned.
I'd also like to preemptively answer one question you might have in regards to the scum optimal play with Lila's vig claim situation: you would be mistaken to scumread me for figuring out scum's optimal play. I think it's a good strategy to think in scum's eyes and evaluate everyone's actions based on that. Besides, as scum, I wouldn't have called for everyone to shut up about Lila in the first place, since nobody seemed to notice my hush-hush attempt in the first place; instead, I probably would've chimed in with Yuzo and promoted discussion on them for reasons aforementioned.

Looking at this again, it’s a bit weird. I don’t really like the way Nicolette phrases the me vs. Marilyn situation, feels a little like she’s already planned a lylo with her and us two. I’d like to know if other people think i’m reaching a bit too much or not here.
I also don’t like the wifom but that’s also a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.

I don't see a clear motivation in wanting you two alive during Lylo.

Titus V. wrote:I am making a post about Yuzo and OO and another one about cop inspects so get hyped!!!

Idr any post about cop inspects, so get that and the post on me out asap, thanks!

I could do that but I am not sure whether it would be useful tbh. The cop inspects might be though.

Titus V. wrote:I want to ask a favor for all of you that will be useful for me. I already asked this for Marilyn, but she kinda didn't answer what I expected so let me ask everyone again:

1) If I flip mafia, who do you think should be lynched next (i.e. who is likely my partner)?

2) If I flip town, who do you think are the last 2 mafia?

I know this may be weird to ask but it will really help me.

One of the reasons i ended up gut tr-ing titus was this, it was super similar to something that a town player in a different NOC i played in did. Also interesting to note how marilyn didn’t answer properly before and then didn’t answer it properly AGAIN.




This is an issue. You've done this long post, including everything to make it seem long, but ALL you do is agree with O.O or say you werent here. Also this.....
"Well, I was really happy. You have no idea how happy I was when you came online and lynched Yuzo the mafia."

The post he was saying seemed forced was when you said why did Lila kill Hiroki. This happened after Linda was lynched. This shows that you probably werent happy about the whole linda thing, but you WERE happy when O.O lynched Titus, because you didnt die. I dont like how you also mentioned the words "The mafia" like we all know what he flipped it comes across as you saying "Im happy you lynch Yuzo not just because it saved me because he is also mafia like thats a BIG part of it obviously duh im town"

Titus V. wrote:
Marilyn M. wrote:I have a few things I want to reply to, but I'll start
With your read on me because I feel like defending myself is the most important step
My read on you was AWFUL. I admit it. You can use that to justify your lynch.
I feel like this is kind of post that triggers OO scumtells/gutreads (considering he said he didn't like my post that said something along the line of nothing I say will change marilyn read...)

As far as the rest of it goes, the thing Titus called me out on was when I called HIM a hypocrite. He then called me a hypocrite because I was a hypocrite when reading you. Aside from that he really didn't have a defence to what I said
Are you gonna point out why I don't have a defence or are you fixated on scumreading me that you are gonna ignore what I said as not having a defence?






First part is nothing and i dont need to respond to it
Second part, you are the one who im saying didnt have a defence. You need to show where you had a defence, not other way round
Titus V. wrote:I forgot to collapse my quotes don't kill me Linda... oh wait you are dead hahaha :^).

Marilyn M. wrote:
Aside from that, I really don't understand your gut read as town on Titus. You call him out for so many things and you claim a lot of his posts feel 'off' but then say you have a gut read as town on him.
It honestly feels like you just really want to lynch me, and can't find a reason to not lynch Titus, so you just kinda gutread him
I don't understand your logic here. Firstly, there is no motivation. What is the point, if he is mafia, of not lynching me? There is only one mafia left, so he doesn't have to be wary about lynches anymore. Furthermore,
it is not like he townread me and thus not a sudden shift in reads. Secondly, I sense a bias here. I feel like since you scumread me, you believe everyone should scumread me too. Why would the fact that he doesn't have a reason to lynch me effect his willingness to lynch you in anyway?

I don't nessicarily think you are scum because of it, I just don't understand why. Now that I can agree with. Your only valid reasons for lynching me are that I had a bad read on you, which I get why you scumread me for, and when I 'cherry picked' I was just going for everything that wasn't big contributions, which I shouldn't have done. Your other valid reason is the Yuzo thing, which, having read it, I do see where you are coming from. The only thing I can say to this is that it falls under my miller theory with Titus.
...Are you saying that this miller theory may have a little credibility in scumhunting and thus not such a scummy thing to say after all?

you did, however, put some real thought into what you typed. You read back, and took, what I saw, as an unbiased view of the entire game, which I really appreciate

I do still believe Titus is the best lynch for today so I will lynch Titus



Ive already stated why this post is hot garbage, and Titus didnt seem to understand that I TOWNREAD O.O
just including it for extra evidence

Titus V. wrote:I just realized I spammed the whole page with quotes ;-; Please don't hate me I have no idea how to do it like OO.

Anyways, I would like to ask Teaque a question:
Since you ranked me and Marilyn at the same level, who do you think should be lynched? Has that changed?

For now, I am gonna Lynch Marilyn because I do think OO is town from the interactions yesterday (or at least, he ranks higher than Marilyn now in my reads). The interesting case here is whether Teaque   or Marilyn should be lynched today. When I finish my thoughts on that, then I will relynch accordingly.


Now then. I have seen very little stuff that suggests that you scumread me more than you did yesterday so far. so why is it that you cant find any reason to lynch scum, so much so that someone who is NEUTRAL on your most recent readslist, is the person you are lynching. Do you have that little reasoning to lynch anyone? I cant believe this

Marilyn M. wrote:I'm going to start with this one because it is the worse
Titus V. wrote:


1) Changing reads is a scum tell when THERE IS MORE THAN ONE MAFIA ALIVE!!! If you actually read the reasoning when I posted that scumtell, I said that mafia might inspected their partner and thus changing their read. When there is only one mafia left, changing reads is not a scum tell! Stop throwing the word "hypocrite" around carelessly + stop adhering so strictly to these said scum-tells without considering where it is coming from.

2) I left my paragraph in there as a comment to your post. In no way did I say that you are scum simply because of what you said there. If you recall my reads, it was Yuzo/OO > Marilyn > Teaque > Nicolette. Yuzo is dead, I now townread OO, oh guess who's next? You and Teaque. That is why I said I will lynch you FOR NOW and WILL RELYNCH accordingly when I go back in detail and read between you two.

3) If OO was mafia, his last second plurshift that "saved me" didn't make much sense. The only way it would make sense is that he must have inspected me as mafia, so he didn't want me dead while he didn't mind Yuzo dying. However, since Yuzo flipped mafia, by that logic I must be the town miller or something. IMO OO as mafia just doesn't make sense. Furthermore, his posts, although reaction-based, are very solid and I would rather have him alive.


1) not exactly. The big difference is that a mafia died, meaning now there is only 1 mafia. So, going back to my miller theory because it keeps making sense, when there was a mafia alive, and a possibility of me being your partner, your had me as neutral since you inspected me as mafia, but when Yuzo died and it was just you left, you realised I am miller, not your mafia partner, and so you had me as scum

2) this is the second time you've done this "I'll lynch now but Ul later" thing
you dont HAVE to have a lynch on someone at all times

3) I DONT THINK O.O IS MAFIA O MY GOD

Titus V. wrote:You know, the thing is that if I really wanted Marilyn gone I could have easily done that. I could have left my lynch on her when I saw Teaque came online but I didn't. I wasn't sure if she was truly the scum. But then I went back to Teaque, and thought to myself, why would a mafia intentionally act like this? Take Yuzo for example, he was mafia yet he did defend himself while making large posts. It just doesn't make sense. From my personal point of view, keeping Marilyn alive and lynching Teaque is suicidal. If Teaque turns out to be town, I am definitely dead by tomorrow. Since I know I am town, a Teaque lynch easily meant a Nicolette, OO, Marilyn Lylo. I don't know what to think about that. Then what if Marilyn was lynched, if she isn't mafia then Teaque will probably be lynched tomorrow. That means a Nicolette, OO, Titus lylo. Yeah, that's just horrible because I can foresee the outcome. The sad part here is that there is more hope for a town victory when I'm dead before Lylo. I really don't know what to think. This post is mainly ranting, I have to go soon I'm sorry if this post doesn't make much sense. But I'm trying to look at the game in a bigger picture.

A question to Nicolette:
Assume it was LYLO, who would you lynch between Marilyn and OO? What would be the deciding factor?

From what I just wrote, it is best for me to lynch Teaque. Yet, I have a better idea that would help me get a clearer picture of the game. The one person I have mixed thoughts about is OO, I had him as most scummiest but from yesterday's actions moved him above Marilyn as town. What would really help me read him?

Lynch Marilyn

How about letting OO decide who should be lynched for today?


1) not exactly. Teaque had no lynches on him, and could have just as easily lynched you. So you are wrong
2) you arent certainly dead, because lynching TQ like we did leaves town completely split. O.O+ you on me. Me and Nicolette on you. Today is literally a race for plurhammer
3) It's at this point Titus realises that Me, Teaque, and Him will be lynched in an unknown order, because unless someone is like a hidden innocent child cop or something, if Nicolette/O.O are mafia they have won. The fact that we are all going to get lynched shows that it really doesnt matter who Titus lynches, he is going to die at some point and we are going to win.
4) "keeping Marilyn alive and lynching Teaque is suicidal" followed by "It is best for me to lynch Teaque."
followed by you lynching me.
So whats happened here is you stated that lynching Teaque is bad, so you need to lynch me. You realise it will be kinda scummy of you to lynch me, since I would be the one, today, to have a case against you. So you say, wrongly, that it is best for you to lynch Teaque, to make yourself seem townie when you lynch marilyn
5)isnt it convenient that person you suggest decides is the person who has been trying to get me lynched for 2 days

Titus V. wrote:Oh I so look forward to tomorrow.

And you know there is a tomorrow because?
If its because you think TQ is town, then lynch me gdi, unless you thought we were both town, which means you thought, uhh, O.O was scum? yeah you're mafia
Titus V. wrote:I have my doubts Teaque is scum.

THEN LYNCH SOMEONE ELSE
by Marilyn M.
on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:37 am
 
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Well O I won't be here to discuss the points if I die so I would recommend lynching Teaque, who has done his disappearing trick now that the lynched are on me. Like I just don't believe that the one time he is active is when he is being scumread, and as soon as he has no pressure he logs out and probably lurks on a guest account
Like if you really wanted to lynch scum, you would provide your thoughts whenever possible, which I really doubt is once per ingame day
by Marilyn M.
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'why are you doing this its not helpful and it just makes you look bad
i dont understand'

In his post TQ stated that lynching someone because of my reasons in 1v4 is bad because it's near endgame, I'm telling him it's not really endgame as we have 2 mislynches before mylo (1v2)

The thing I disagreed with was your whole concept of the scumminess thing. You seem to have this thing where you are saying you have 10 scumminess with 50 posts, and someone else has 10 scumminess with 20 posts, your average scumminess is 2 and their average scumminess is 5 making them scummier (I know neither of us see it in, or measure, scumminess points I'm just doing that to make it easy to explain) but I don't think that's a good way of scumhunting. Either way, based on today I no longer see you as as scummy as Titus or TQ.

I am certain scrum is between Titus and TQ, but I'm not sure which 1. If I was king I would prefer Titus to be lynched, but, based on others opinions, Teaque is the only one that would really get lynched, and I am fine with Teaque being lynched because we have 2 mislynches, but I would rather have Titus lynched
by Marilyn M.
on Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:10 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I would honestly rather have Titus lynched, but I felt you could be scum too, and O.O and Titus would never lynch Titus, meaning that of my two scumreads, you would be the only one able to be lynched

We are in a 1v4 situation, but it is a basically nightless 1v4 situation, meaning we have 2 mislynches. It's not exactly a desperate situation, and, looking at the players, either the scum is very good, or we have a pretty much guaranteed win.

As far as why I scumread you, Nicolette covered most of it. Aside from that, I have stated why I townread O.O and Nicolette.

Then we come to the brackets. You have been theorising that I am a scum who thought you were a scumpartner since day 2?
What on earth caused you to think that at that point? Sure I townread you at the time, but that doesn't mean I think you are a scum partner...
If you think the only major thing that happened yesterday was scum getting lynched, you are wrong. Yesterday O.O made a case against me, I made a case against Titus, and Nicolette made cases against Yuzo, You, and Titus
Obviously you don't care because the most pressure was on Titus and Yuzo, not yourself. You only care that your scumpartner got lynched, which is also why you didn't bother helping on day 3
Now there is pressure on you, ooh activity and posting
If you would rather lynch Titus, I would be happy to comply, but as of right now, my lynch stands

Titus, we appear to be in the opposite situation. I suggest you think carefully before placing your vote. Look at our posts, and look at other people's opinions. I think. I know who Nicolette will lynch, so the decision rests upon you. I would obviously prefer you to lynch Teaque, but it's not my choice

O.O, I know you have good reasoning to lynch me, but I suggest you consider others reasoning on other people, because I believe that both Titus and Teaque are better lynch choices for today
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:17 pm
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I don't think O.O is mafia, and I never did since my first post today

Anyway, now I feel it is safe, and a good idea, to
unlynch Titus, lynch Teaque

I'm not comfortable with this wildcard of a player being in the game, though I would like to hear his thoughts
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:46 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

'Well, I was really happy. You have no idea how happy I was when you came online and lynched Yuzo the mafia.'

Again. Seems forced the way you said 'the mafia'. Also you are referring to the WRONG post. This makes me think it IS forced

by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:31 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

Titus V. wrote:I just realized I spammed the whole page with quotes ;-; Please don't hate me I have no idea how to do it like OO.

Anyways, I would like to ask Teaque a question:
Since you ranked me and Marilyn at the same level, who do you think should be lynched? Has that changed?

For now, I am gonna Lynch Marilyn because I do think OO is town from the interactions yesterday (or at least, he ranks higher than Marilyn now in my reads). The interesting case here is whether Teaque   or Marilyn should be lynched today. When I finish my thoughts on that, then I will relynch accordingly.


In this same page, where nobody else posted between the post I'm referring to and this one, you say 'my gut TR's Marilyn'
Now you have realised that, in order to win, you need both me and Teaque gone. I am the one building a case against you so you know you need me lynched quickly. If you were town, you would have lynched Teaque, and attempted to convince Nicolette, O.O, and myself to lynch him too, because following what you have said, he is the only person you truly scumread.

O.O, I understand what you are saying now, but I just disagree with what you are saying. I tried explaining it myself but failed, and so I've got rid of it and am typing this instead.

nicolette. I can't unlynch Titus
I want a scum to die, I want me to survive. I'm like 98% sure the scum is between Titus and Teaque
Lynching Teaque would cause Teaque to hammer me, leaving you in a situation where town is lynchcjng between Titus and Teaque, just as Titus wants

Teaque. What are your current thoughts on the game. Who is scum, who is town
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:23 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

I'm going to start with this one because it is the worse
Titus V. wrote:I forgot to collapse my quotes don't kill me Linda... oh wait you are dead hahaha :^).

Marilyn M. wrote:
Aside from that, I really don't understand your gut read as town on Titus. You call him out for so many things and you claim a lot of his posts feel 'off' but then say you have a gut read as town on him.
It honestly feels like you just really want to lynch me, and can't find a reason to not lynch Titus, so you just kinda gutread him
I don't understand your logic here. Firstly, there is no motivation. What is the point, if he is mafia, of not lynching me? There is only one mafia left, so he doesn't have to be wary about lynches anymore. Furthermore,
it is not like he townread me and thus not a sudden shift in reads. Secondly, I sense a bias here. I feel like since you scumread me, you believe everyone should scumread me too. Why would the fact that he doesn't have a reason to lynch me effect his willingness to lynch you in anyway?

I don't nessicarily think you are scum because of it, I just don't understand why. Now that I can agree with. Your only valid reasons for lynching me are that I had a bad read on you, which I get why you scumread me for, and when I 'cherry picked' I was just going for everything that wasn't big contributions, which I shouldn't have done. Your other valid reason is the Yuzo thing, which, having read it, I do see where you are coming from. The only thing I can say to this is that it falls under my miller theory with Titus.
...Are you saying that this miller theory may have a little credibility in scumhunting and thus not such a scummy thing to say after all?

you did, however, put some real thought into what you typed. You read back, and took, what I saw, as an unbiased view of the entire game, which I really appreciate

I do still believe Titus is the best lynch for today so I will lynch Titus



Your first paragraph is a bunch of rubbish. You IGNORED what I said in the very next line and instead made a large parapgraph saying how it wouldn't make sense if O.O was mafia you then responded to me saying I didn't think O.O was mafia by saying that you agree. Therefore, at this point you have acknowledged that I TR O.O, so why leave that enourmous paragraph in there? You left it so it would appear as if you had reasoning for me to be lynched. Following MY miller theory (not yours) you now know I am town, and therefore no longer need to townread me. This is why in the post before you stated you would rather have me and Teaque lynched, while yesterday O.O was tied top of your scumreads. Hey look, you are CHANGING YOUR READS again, one of YOUR OWN scumtells. Isn't that a bit of *cough* hypocrisy *cough*
So stop calling me a hypocrite, and stop being a hypocrite plz and ty

Your second paragraph: I was referring to MY miller theory, which puts you as scum. So no. Your theory can't be used as reason for scumhunting
by Marilyn M.
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:52 am
 
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Game 30: Separated Scum

In your read of Titus you talk about him looking at future lynch options etc.

When I see those posts, to me it seemed like he was doing the scum thing of posting a 'im gonna die but I can still be saved so I'm gonna say a 'woo town is best' thing and act like I REALLY care about town winning so they unlynch me'
It might just be me being biased since I sr Titus but that is how it came across to me

Also something that should be noted is that Teaque WAS here at night
and Victor too, wtf rssp1
by Marilyn M.
on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:20 am
 
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