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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Autumn F. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:43 pm

Is it too late to confirm : What a Face
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Autumn F. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:43 pm

I'm so cute what the heck that's a first
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Autumn F. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:49 pm

Madam much money will u be my sugar mama, I'll vote to send u to heaven if I say yes I love you
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Pete S. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:05 pm

Autumn F. wrote:Madam much money will u be my sugar mama, I'll vote to send u to heaven if I say yes I love you

Scum partner found gg gimme me MVP
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:16 pm

Autumn F. wrote:Madam much money will u be my sugar mama, I'll vote to send u to heaven if I say yes I love you
We can go to heaven together I love you I love you Just have to send this heretic Howie to the depths of hell real quick.

Pete just doesn't understand our love.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:49 pm

Charlene W. wrote:Confirm town
"So I here im villy"
Lynch Charlene W.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Autumn F. on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:15 pm

Pete S. wrote:
Autumn F. wrote:Madam much money will u be my sugar mama, I'll vote to send u to heaven if I say yes I love you

Scum partner found gg gimme me MVP

I'm just a poor waitress looking for some quick ways to get rich Sad
ur just jelly u don't have a sugar mama to inherit fortunes hehe
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by ajhockeystar on Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:28 am

Votecount 1.1
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Isis A.(1)- Howie M.
Howie M.(1)- Madam Muchmoney
Madam Muchmoney(1)- Pete S.
Charlene W.(1)- Galea R.
Autumn F.(0)-
Galea R.(0)-
Master Fisherman(0)-
Pete S.(0)-
Rory M.(0)-
Not Voting(5)- Autumn F., Charlene W., Isis A., Master Fisherman, Rory M.
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There are 9 alive so it takes 5 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Tuesday the 10th at 9pm EST.

If the deadline was now, Isis A. would be lynched.


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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Isis A. on Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:37 am

Lynch Autumn F.

Cute users always are scum
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:38 pm

I've mulled over some ideas on how to play this theme, and I want to know people's opinions on one of these ideas.

Should we consistently send the towniest players to heaven? I personally think this is a bad idea and something we should do ONLY when we aren't really sure of any other option to send forward.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:05 pm

Galea R. wrote:I've mulled over some ideas on how to play this theme, and I want to know people's opinions on one of these ideas.

Should we consistently send the towniest players to heaven? I personally think this is a bad idea and something we should do ONLY when we aren't really sure of any other option to send forward.
Who do you propose we send instead then?
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Howie M. on Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:36 pm

Woah game is slow.

I mean the towniest person is often the option we're sure of so like, your proposal makes kinda no sense.

Unless you mean something along the lines of like "Send the second towniest" or some shit in which case that's just... long-winded.

Man the people need to get in and RVS man, PSAnon games aren't supposed to be dead
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:25 am

what i meant by that is that we keep the towniest players around because they can actually help town out
I suppose its worth considering the impact these townie players are having; it's possible to have terrible reads while still being super townie, so people like that would be a priority when choosing who to send to heaven.
However, should someone tend to be very accurate in identifying scum while also being very townie, I think it's a good idea to keep them around and only send them to heaven when we aren't sure who to send/when we're in a near-lylo situation.

as to who we would send instead, I don't really know. That's why I wanted to bring the point up for discussion.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Howie M. on Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:31 am

I mean there's a distinction between helpful people and townie people.

I guess I see your point in that we should prioritize townie people, but I don't think it's worth the risk of sending scummy people up just to keep the helpful people around.

If we can send a townie person without drastically lowering game quality, I'm all for it, but if we have to send someone who's somewhat feasibly scum, I don't think it's worth it.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:14 am

I agree with Howie here, despite his lackluster face. I understand the rationale Galea is using but it's situational and something it's easier to analyze Day 2. You propose that we send people who are townie but have inaccurate reads, to which I ask how will we know if their reads are accurate or not?

I understand that you want to consider the impact a player is happening, but it's difficult I think to gauge that impact during the game.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:16 am

Howie M. wrote:Woah game is slow.

I mean the towniest person is often the option we're sure of so like, your proposal makes kinda no sense.

Unless you mean something along the lines of like "Send the second towniest" or some shit in which case that's just... long-winded.

Man the people need to get in and RVS man, PSAnon games aren't supposed to be dead
Also Howie, I feel like I should mention this just for the purpose of being complete in my thoughts. Games in general shouldn't be dead, but people simply coming in, RVSing, and leaving doesn't help to revitalize them. What usually helps is some form of discussion (which we now have!).
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:37 pm

Howie M. wrote:I mean there's a distinction between helpful people and townie people.

I guess I see your point in that we should prioritize townie people, but I don't think it's worth the risk of sending scummy people up just to keep the helpful people around.

If we can send a townie person without drastically lowering game quality, I'm all for it, but if we have to send someone who's somewhat feasibly scum, I don't think it's worth it.

Madam Muchmoney wrote:I agree with Howie here, despite his lackluster face. I understand the rationale Galea is using but it's situational and something it's easier to analyze Day 2. You propose that we send people who are townie but have inaccurate reads, to which I ask how will we know if their reads are accurate or not?

I understand that you want to consider the impact a player is happening, but it's difficult I think to gauge that impact during the game.

I think you both bring up good points. I suppose the strategy I was talking about is something we could do later, since we don't really have a lot to work off of right now.

Evaluating the utility of a player is a bit difficult too; especially when there are only three of us talking. As to gauging the impact of each player, I agree with MM that that's going to be something we can do later on in the game.

AJ, could you give us a votes thing + who has plurality right now?

@other people: what are some strategies for figuring out the people we want to send to heaven each week, if you can think of any? What do you think of the strategy I proposed (take note of Howie & MM's suggestions, e.g. using the system later and not sending a completely suboptimal choice over a good one as well)

When it comes to sending people to hell I think normal scumhunting strategy is fine, unless you guys have any other ideas.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by ajhockeystar on Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Votecount 1.2
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Isis A.(1)- Howie M.
Howie M.(1)- Madam Muchmoney
Madam Muchmoney(1)- Pete S.
Charlene W.(1)- Galea R.
Autumn F.(1)- Isis A.
Galea R.(0)-
Master Fisherman(0)-
Pete S.(0)-
Rory M.(0)-
Not Voting(4)- Autumn F., Charlene W., Master Fisherman, Rory M.
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There are 9 alive so it takes 5 to hammer. Plurality applies.
Deadline is Tuesday the 10th at 9pm EST.

If the deadline was now, Isis A. would be lynched.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:43 pm

autumn - Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:28 pm
charlene - Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:39 am
isis - Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:37 pm
master fisherman - Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:44 pm
pete - Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:51 pm
rory - Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:13 pm
^last time visited

autumn came on almost a day after her last post and then did nothing
its not much to go off of but its better than anything else i've seen so far lol
Unlynch Charlene, Lynch Autumn
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:46 pm

aj can you go ahead and harass the 6 in my post and tell them to get on here
its entirely possible that they've forgotten this existed
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by ajhockeystar on Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:07 pm

Very tempted to extend and so I can tell people to post. Thoughts?
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Galea R. on Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:37 am

its a yes from me
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:24 am

I think interactions are going to be the primary scumhunting method for this, especially considering that scum will be revealed regardless of if they are sent to heaven as well. What that says to me is that it's very dangerous for scum to push their partners in either direction, since we only need to send two of them to hell to win and scum making themselves an obvious partner to scum who was sent to heaven could keep them from getting another member sent.

I think the best way to think of this is like a White Flag setup, where scum loses upon being down to one member. Or maybe the Black Flag one, since scum can also win more easily.

I'll put this link here for some light reading, I think it better highlights what I'm trying to say: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=White_Flag_Gambit
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:30 am

Galea R. wrote:autumn - Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:28 pm
charlene - Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:39 am
isis - Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:37 pm
master fisherman - Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:44 pm
pete - Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:51 pm
rory - Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:13 pm
^last time visited

autumn came on almost a day after her last post and then did nothing
its not much to go off of but its better than anything else i've seen so far lol
Unlynch Charlene, Lynch Autumn
Are you jealous too? Does no one in this town understand our relationship?

Anyway, you made your first proposal at Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:38 pm, so none of those people have had the chance to see it I think. I do realize you lynched Autumn for another reason though, and I will join you in bringing some pressure to people. I mention having a problem with people who RVS and do nothing else, which is right now Isis and Pete, and Pete at the very least came back after his RVS to see if something had come up to discuss, so I will

Unlynch Howie M. and Lynch Isis A.
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Re: Game 33: Purgatory

Post by Madam Muchmoney on Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:32 am

ajhockeystar wrote:Very tempted to extend and so I can tell people to post. Thoughts?
Yes! Please do this!
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